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Daneel Olivaw
10-05-06, 12:45 AM
Half the time when you post I have to step back and say "now did RLY I understand that comment :surrender". Then my head feels like it will explode from the technical, profound, and complex words you always have to say.:D

:retard:-deadpan- I think that's because neither of you has english as their mother tongue.

I am one of those that thought AMD+ATI was very possible from the get go. and now I read about the editorial about GP+GPU (general purpose), especially now DX10 is on the way and it's totally programmable just like a cpu, and then the direction of dual core and quad core,
well, combining cpu and gpu on one die seems to be inevitable.
so, price wise, it all depends on how far amd+ati is ahead of intel and
HOW DESPERATE INTEL IS!!!Intel is not desparate, nothing will happen overnight, and they're doing very well.
I like NVIDIA. (mikec)So do I!
withmyshadow
10-05-06, 01:00 AM
-deadpan- I think that's because neither of you has english as their mother tongue.


well, I hope you do.
and I bet that looks great on your CV. Good luck finding a job with just that. OR...
I am sure you have your "forte" somewhere else or you got a couple pulitzers on your shelf so you are practising here for one more:captnkill: :captnkill:
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 01:00 AM
I like NVIDIA. (mikec)

ME TOO OF COURSE! :captnkill:
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 01:01 AM
-deadpan- I think that's because neither of you has english as their mother tongue.

:rofl What?
crainger
10-05-06, 01:46 AM
:rofl What?

Exactly
Daneel Olivaw
10-05-06, 01:55 AM
well, I hope you do.
and I bet that looks great on your CV. Good luck finding a job with just that. OR...
I am sure you have your "forte" somewhere else or you got a couple pulitzers on your shelf so you are practising here for one more:captnkill: :captnkill:French is my mother tongue (I thought people knew there was a french canuck around here?;)), I learned english in elementary school. So I was just kidding. And I have a job :)
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 02:06 AM
http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2006-10-04T185721Z_01_N04413247_RTRIDST_0_TECH-NVIDIA-STOCKS-UPDATE-1.XML
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 02:07 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=ajZeDn3JpbRU&refer=us
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 02:07 AM
Geez the exact same thing happened last time with AMD and ATI.
Treason
10-05-06, 02:32 AM
I hope this happens. I prefer a nVidia/Intel monopoly of discrete video cards while AMD/ATi can concentrate on their advanced/harmonized integrated solutions. (folding was the first step I believe).
sabersix1
10-05-06, 03:29 AM
I think it makes perfect sense for Intel to Buy Nvidia, or even better, Buy Nvidia and Leave it INTACT, and make it a whole new division of INTEL. For one, it will greatly help Nvidia with thier Fabrication and Manufacturing. As of now, Nvidia has all of the Fabs for GPU's and Core Logic Chipsets farmed out to TSMC Taiwan, IBM, and others while getting thier RAM from Samsung and Infineon. Thier Graphics and Main boards are all fabricated by Flextronix/China or Foxconn or other NV Channel Partners. Again this would let Nvidia have a huge gain in thier FABs, Manufacturing, and Supply Chain with having access to Intels FAB's. Not to mention thier factory's, and that they both (INTEL & NVIDIA) could really expand thier R&D Capabilities for CPU's, Core Logic, and Graphics as well as GP-GPU(http://www.penstarsys.com/editor/company/amd/gpgpu/index.html) or even the SUPER CORE, a highly developed PROCESSOR that has not only all of a CPU's Regular INSTRUCTION SETS, but also has CSI, CORE LOGIC, GRAPHICS, MEMORY CONTROL, AUDIO, PHYSICS, and VIDEO STREAMING running on different CORES on the same DIE, sharing a HUGE AMOUNT OF SHARED CACHE.

AND WHY NOT? If it is OK for ATI, then lets have Intel Buy or Merge with Nvidia. Besides, it is time for another major leap in Technology, right? I MEAN PCI-EXPRESS 2 and DDR3. COME ON! Lets really "BUST IT WIDE OPEN"! Do You actually think that AMD is buying ATI just so they can get more MARKET SHARE! HELL NO! THIS IS NOT A GAME OF CHESS. THIS IS ABOUT SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! AND you know damn well that AMD bought ATI for more than market share or even to get thier own core logic and graphics chipsets. The purchase was made because of the BIGGER PICTURE.

SO YES, I do hope to see either a merger of Intel and Nvidia or an outright purchase that would leave Nvidia intact, but make them a part of the BIG BLUE MACHINE! :D And if it is OK for AMD & ATI, then it has got to be GREAT for INTEL and NVIDIA! :beer: :jumping: :super: :afraid: :nanahump:
Redeemed
10-05-06, 06:38 AM
I'm not sure I like the idea. I'm all for intense competition. And with nVidia and Intel teaming it- I smell a monopoly on the horizon. In other words, I don't think that AMD/ATi would be able to keep up. :(
mikechai
10-05-06, 07:15 AM
IntelliVidia?

I doubt JenHsun will let it happen....
MikeC
10-05-06, 09:12 AM
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34873
Monolyth
10-05-06, 02:15 PM
Intel said they were leaving the high-end mobo market, whereas nVidia is pushing more and more. Adding nVidia to Intel to handle high-end systems would be an easy snap-in, rather than spending money on your own R&D just buy it (look at Microsoft). Having a new division to handle your platforms and providing quick-to-market solutions for those new parts is not a bad idea at all.

nVidia may be doing well, but the AMD+ATI merger has already forced nVidia and Intel to at least start talks about how to handle the situation, those talks could easily have led to ideas on a strategic partnership, technology support/licensing agreements, whatever...Either way they will be working much more closely together.

And the whole "not commenting" on something like this tells me they may be in talks right now (ala AMD+ATI rumors). Although they also may not be saying anything in order to keep the stocks from dropping. If there was 'no' chance it would happen I'm sure one of the companies would've commented by now.
Monolyth
10-05-06, 02:26 PM
On a side note: Monopolies are not always bad and in fact can be quite good for the consumer. Monopolies can considerably lower prices due to increased internal resources (look at the old "Bell" monopoly). It also provides greater resources to the company for new innovations and inventions (again "Bell Labs" created many of the communication protocols and languages we use today).

The problem with most Monopolies is that they are extremely anti-competitive, meaning they prefer to stifle the little guy before he has a chance, this is why there are anti-trust laws to prevent this exact situation, but that does not mean that monopolies are totally bad.
sabersix1
10-05-06, 02:31 PM
EVEN More at TechReport: http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/10946

"There is speculation that Intel will make an acquisition announcement tonight,"
MikeC
10-05-06, 03:54 PM
http://news.com.com/2061-10791_3-6123010.html
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 06:39 PM
Thanks for pointing it out sabersix1 The Tech Report says its happening:

http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/10946

All these conflicting reports. If it's not true then it sure was a great rumor to boost stocks.:D
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 07:00 PM
I think the Inquirer needs to make up its mind. Now they are saying it could happen.

http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=34876
superklye
10-05-06, 07:55 PM
Dude, that's what the Inq does. They report every possible angle so that when all is said and done, they can say they were right.

I don't know why people even bother reading that site. It's the most unreliable "news" source on the 'net. It's almost like the Onion of tech news without the humor. If anything, it seems like it's a collection of editorial opinions that they pass off as "news" instead of what it is: opinion.
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 07:58 PM
Dude, that's what the Inq does. They report every possible angle so that when all is said and done, they can say they were right.

I don't know why people even bother reading that site. It's the most unreliable "news" source on the 'net. It's almost like the Onion of tech news without the humor. If anything, it seems like it's a collection of editorial opinions that they pass off as "news" instead of what it is: opinion.

:rofl In some cases I suppose that is the case. But they have be right on the money IMO about many things concerning video card specs and release dates.;)
superklye
10-05-06, 07:59 PM
:rofl In some cases I suppose that is the case. But they have be right on the money IMO about many things concerning video card specs and release dates.;)
Sure, but if you look, I'd be willing to bet in almost every case they had numerous other reports with vastly different content so that no matter what happened, they could say they were right.
Tikiman44
10-05-06, 08:01 PM
What do think about this man?

http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/10946
superklye
10-05-06, 08:05 PM
What do think about this man?

http://www.techreport.com/onearticle.x/10946
I don't have a problem with that, because he's REPORTING what Reuters said. He added no opinion (leaving that up to readers in the comments section).

The Inq seems to fabricate or at least take extreme "creative license" with the things they "report" and that's what bothers me.