R600 to Have 512bit bus, 1gig of 2.5ghz gddr4...

[SpiffMistroII]

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showpost.php?p=850136&postcount=685


512bit reveals saves the position width new flagship R600 band width astonishing

Before this already some news confirmed NVIDIA G80 will use 384bit to reveal saves the position funds, but at present goes against the level to reveal the card all to use the 256bit position width. Although ATi the R520/R580 interior ring-like uses 512bit to reveal saves the main line but it only to have 4 to reveal saves the channel, outside revealed saves the position width still was 256bit. R600 will bring unprecedented true 512bit to reveal saves the position width, if will provide 2500MHz GDDR4 to reveal saves, then the band width achieved astonishing 160G/s, we knew even if will be the eDRAM band width which X-box in 360 will inlay also only has 256GB/s, although in the speed eDRAM will be quick many, but X-box 360 eDRAM will only have 10MB, but R600 will provide actually is 1024MB. The R600 research and development code number is Pele, will use TSMC 80 nanometer crafts manufacture, completely will support DirectX 10, will estimate in the next year first quarter issue.


Yep, take it with some salt, but it's very worth mentioning.

If these specs come to life... that means twice as much bandwith as G80.

G80

GDDR3
784MB
384bit bus
1.8GHZ
86gb/sec

R600

GDDR4
1024MB
512bit bus
2.5ghz
160gb/sec

[|MaguS|]

If true then a single R600 would cost as much as SLi... GDDR4 is still expensive and would come in short supply (remember when GDDR3 first released). In all honesty it sounds like some FANATIC getting upset at the G80 specs and just throwing out fudd.

[Marvel_us]

Wishful thinking FTW?

I doubt those are the real specs. 1gb of 2.5ghz + 512bit bus.......I don't think that will happen.

If it does then G80 is in a lot of trouble but I highly doubt these are real.

[MustangSVT]

As much as I am fan of ATI and nVIDIA, come on, 512-bit 2.5ghz ddr? That's way too much of wishful thinking. Let's be realistic here. :tiki:

[SpiffMistroII]

If true then a single R600 would cost as much as SLi... GDDR4 is still expensive and would come in short supply (remember when GDDR3 first released). In all honesty it sounds like some FANATIC getting upset at the G80 specs and just throwing out fudd.

GDDR4 is not as much as you think it is. Although supply is short, the overall cost is not something to even mention about.

512bit ring bus is not very $$$ either. Although 1gig of ram is quite $$$, the 80nm node dose help remedy that. Either way, I can see R600 being priced at 700.00

With that said, R600 is not going to cost no where near as much as a G80 sli system.

[SpiffMistroII]

As much as I am fan of ATI and nVIDIA, come on, 512-bit 2.5ghz ddr? That's way too much of wishful thinking. Let's be realistic here. :tiki:

danm dude. are sure your not my twin? I love Mustangs, and I'm spreading HD-DVD fever over **** blu-ray. lol.

[ArrowMk84]

Ok, I can buy the 1 GB RAM. I can even buy the 512 bit bus. But the 2.5 GHz claim just set my BS detector off. That's a full gig faster than the 1950XTX using the same memory...

[SpiffMistroII]

Ok, I can buy the 1 GB RAM. I can even buy the 512 bit bus. But the 2.5 GHz claim just set my BS detector off. That's a full gig faster than the 1950XTX using the same memory...

no that's not a full gig faster mate. that's 500mhz faster in ddr2 clocks, and 250mhz faster in ddr clocks. Gddr4 reaches up to 3.2ghz. so 2.5ghz dose not even come close to the full power of gddr4. This means depending on the latency's set in the mem, You can OC R600 even further. Something that you won't be able to do with G80. G80 has 1.8ghz GDDR3, that's about the limit of GDDR3.

[SpiffMistroII]

the more I think about it mates...

this roumor might just be true.

the 7950gx2 has 1 whole gig of ram, even though it's only 512mb effective, it's made with 1 gig of ram. Both the cores on the 7950gx2 are 90nm, and it being sold for $550. Compare that to R600 which only has ONE 80nm core, one board, and the same amount of memory.

[Alaa]

ATi is always late. I guess R600 will be released by the time nVidia releases the G80 refresh.

[ArrowMk84]

Well, in that case, I guess I'll buy this rumor for an Internet dollar.

[DataMatrix]

ATi is looking tasty :).

[SpiffMistroII]

ATi is always late. I guess R600 will be released by the time nVidia releases the G80 refresh.

Don't be misguided...

ATI will be releasing this card in Jan. only a month and 1/2 after G80. Big deal. What is G80 going to do for a month and 1/2 with out a OS and a DX10 game? lol. R600 will be out along with vista, crysis and ut2k7. No point in rushing and buying a G80.

[agentkay]

The R600 would have to come on a board like the 7900 GX2. The super long GX2 version in Dell computers, that came out before the 7950. I´m sure its FUD, and btw there is a huge difference between an (internal) 512bit ring bus and a real external 512bit memory bus. Just think about the huge amount of layers and lines for 16 memory chips (for 1GB). Highly unlikely.

The timing of this "rumor" is pretty much giving it away as FUD. Even if the R600 had these specs, ATI could officially announce these specs (if they were true) and win over many potentional G80 buyers. They could win this round before it even started and nobody could blame them.

[superklye]

Is it just me, or is that one of the WORST-written paragraphs ever? Jesus, I haven't seen English that broken since I watched a Schwartzenegger movie.

EDIT: Whoops, I didn't see right away that it was a forum post. I thought it was an actual news story posted by Beyond3D. :o

[|MaguS|]

Is it just me, or is that one of the WORST-written paragraphs ever? Jesus, I haven't seen English that broken since I watched a Schwartzenegger movie.

Never read any of "The Bigmans" posts?

[SpiffMistroII]

The R600 would have to come on a board like the 7900 GX2. The super long GX2 version in Dell computers, that came out before the 7950. I´m sure its FUD, and btw there is a huge difference between an (internal) 512bit ring bus and a real external 512bit memory bus. Just think about the huge amount of layers and lines for 16 memory chips (for 1GB). Highly unlikely.

The timing of this "rumor" is pretty much giving it away as FUD. Even if the R600 had these specs, ATI could officially announce these specs (if they were true) and win over many potentional G80 buyers. They could win this round before it even started and nobody could blame them.


why make it longer when you can make it wider?

Oh, I know the difference between internal and external ring buses. This artical is refering to external. ATI cards already have 512bit internal.

It's early OCT. still plenty of time for ATI to make a announcement. They will most likely make it the week before G80 launches. Besides, ATI's marketing team is slow, nice, trust worthy, and stupid. They all need to be fired.

[SpiffMistroII]

Is it just me, or is that one of the WORST-written paragraphs ever? Jesus, I haven't seen English that broken since I watched a Schwartzenegger movie.

EDIT: Whoops, I didn't see right away that it was a forum post. I thought it was an actual news story posted by Beyond3D. :o

It's from a asian computer site, that was translated by google.

[ArrowMk84]

why make it longer when you can make it wider?

Because wider violates the physical spec for any PCI/PCI-X/PCIe card. IIRC, you can't go any wider than the slot backplate, and you can go up to 12 inches long.

[|MaguS|]

Because wider violates the physical spec for any PCI/PCI-X/PCIe card. IIRC, you can't go any wider than the slot backplate, and you can go up to 12 inches long.

Duh people are expected to remove the side of their case permanently to use the R600...

[superklye]

Never read any of "The Bigmans" posts?
ba-ZING! :D

[SpiffMistroII]

Because wider violates the physical spec for any PCI/PCI-X/PCIe card. IIRC, you can't go any wider than the slot backplate, and you can go up to 12 inches long.

you can go wider. you just have to be creative on the mounting bracket placement. You can do a combonation of wider and longer. No doubt in my mind that R600 has 512mb ring bus. It's been long over due. Infact ATI has no choice but to go 512bit. GDDR4 2.5ghz will be badly bottlenecked by 256.

[jAkUp]

I don't believe that a 512bit bus is possible on todays technology. It would require like a 20 layer PCB.

[Zelda_fan]

why make it longer when you can make it wider?

The Bigman disagrees.

[bkswaney]

Well my 2 cents it's BS specs.(bs2)