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sabersix1
10-17-06, 06:39 PM
this is from Dailytech.com: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4589

Intel’s latest roadmap outlines plans for Conroe’s 2007 refresh. The upcoming refresh of Intel’s Core 2 Duo processor will arrive at the same time as the upcoming Bearlake 3 series of chipsets. This will be the first time Intel has refreshed its recently released Conroe architecture. The refresh is quite minor this time around. Nevertheless the Conroe refresh raises the front-side bus up to 1333 MHz and adds Intel Trusted Execution Technology.

Processor
Number Core Freq Bus Freq L2 Cache
E6850 3.00 GHz 1333 MHz 4MB
E6800 2.93 GHz 1066 MHz 4MB
E6750 2.66 GHz 1333 MHz 4MB
E6650 2.33 GHz 1333 MHz 4MB

Three refreshed models will debut with the upcoming Bearlake 3 series chipsets. These models include the Core 2 Duo E6850, E6750 and E6650 clocked at 3 GHz, 2.66 GHz and 2.33 MHz respectively. At this point in time it doesn’t appear Intel has any plans for its Core 2 Extreme lineup, in terms of dual-core processors that is. Kentsfield Core 2 Extreme QX6700 will remain as Intel’s flag-ship enthusiast product.

In addition to the refreshed Conroe Core 2 Duo lineup, Intel will release one more 1066 MHz front-side bus endowed Core 2 Duo product. The upcoming Core 2 Duo E6800 will arrive clocked at 2.93 GHz—similar to Intel’s Core 2 Extreme X6800. The processor is expected to be Intel’s flagship processor for mainstream segments. Aside from the locked multiplier, the Core 2 Duo E6800 is identical to the Core 2 Extreme X6800.

WOO HOO! 1333MHz FSB Strap. (nana2) :captnkill: :D

Bman212121
10-17-06, 06:47 PM
That's actually kind of disappointing. You would think with as high as people can OC them they would have pushed into the 3GHZ range some more.

However, that 6750 sounds good if the price is low.

Bearclaw
10-17-06, 07:47 PM
That's actually kind of disappointing. You would think with as high as people can OC them they would have pushed into the 3GHZ range some more.

However, that 6750 sounds good if the price is low.
Agreed, I definitley want to wait for the 6750 now and see what the price is. (nana2)

Greasy
10-17-06, 08:52 PM
Higher FSB means lower multiplyers though.

nekrosoft13
10-17-06, 08:53 PM
That's actually kind of disappointing. You would think with as high as people can OC them they would have pushed into the 3GHZ range some more.

However, that 6750 sounds good if the price is low.

they have no reason to release ultra fast 3ghz + version.

competition is way behind,

a12ctic
10-17-06, 08:58 PM
also, they have no idea how long those chips are going to last at 3.2+ghz, they could die out after several months.

CaptNKILL
10-17-06, 09:17 PM
also, they have no idea how long those chips are going to last at 3.2+ghz, they could die out after several months.
I dont think that usually happens, if ever. Most of the time if a CPU can hit a certain speed, its going to be able to stay at that speed as long as the working conditions dont change. IMO, CPUs have the lowest failure rate of any component, even when overclocked.

HYBRID
10-17-06, 09:21 PM
I dont think that usually happens, if ever. Most of the time if a CPU can hit a certain speed, its going to be able to stay at that speed as long as the working conditions dont change. IMO, CPUs have the lowest failure rate of any component, even when overclocked.

I agree I've O/C every CPU i've owned the past 6 or so years, and none have ever died on me or failed even after a 3 years or so of use.

a12ctic
10-17-06, 09:30 PM
I dont think that usually happens, if ever. Most of the time if a CPU can hit a certain speed, its going to be able to stay at that speed as long as the working conditions dont change. IMO, CPUs have the lowest failure rate of any component, even when overclocked.
Eh, i still remember those p3's that overclocked massivly then after half a year of use just went out.

CaptNKILL
10-17-06, 09:44 PM
Eh, i still remember those p3's that overclocked massivly then after half a year of use just went out.
There were a lot more components in those old SECC package CPUs though.

I've personally never had a CPU fail from normal usage, even when overclocked. My 1700+ is still running at 2Ghz (533Mhz overclock) after almost 4 years of constant use.

Anyways, I doubt we'll see any mass failure of Core 2 chips from overclocking. The reason Intel isnt jacking up the speed is because they dont need to. They'd probably have a healthy performance lead over AMD for another 6 months even if they stuck with their current line up and didnt add anything new.

Beam
10-26-06, 10:46 PM
Can someone explain the real world impact of the 1333 FSB vs the 1033?
Would we expect a significantly noticible difference in perceived performance?
Is there really a reason to not build a system now with the E6700 (and wait for the E6750)?

jAkUp
10-26-06, 10:50 PM
also, they have no idea how long those chips are going to last at 3.2+ghz, they could die out after several months.

People have had these babies running at 4GHz+ since late July :)

Bearclaw
10-26-06, 10:57 PM
Would it be worth it to just wait for the E6650 2.33 GHz 1333 MHz 4MB
then? Even being the lowest "refresh chip" in the series it is pretty good and being the lowest I would expect it too not have a high cost. I was going to order parts for conroe soo but should I wait for the refresh chips now?

jAkUp
10-26-06, 11:00 PM
I don't think waiting for the refresh is worthwhile, chances are you will be able to overclock that chip very high anyways.

sabersix1
10-27-06, 12:00 AM
I agree. Yes The 1333MHz FSB Strap will help. But they will probably only have downward unlocking Multi's. But then again you stock QUAD-Pump is at 333MHz so that would point to a higher Native DDR2 Speeds and better RAM to FSB RATIO's. :captnkill: But as far as the refresh goes, any one of thos procs shuold run like scaulded dogs! :captnkill:

Nv40
10-29-06, 12:29 AM
I though that all the refresh from Intel will be Quad core..

I will love to get one of those :)

However ,4mb L2 cache and 1333 FSB for main stream processors is not bad at all.

twitch123
10-29-06, 01:20 AM
I don't think waiting for the refresh is worthwhile, chances are you will be able to overclock that chip very high anyways.


My fsb is at 1425 (on a e6600) anyways, what do I need stock 1333 for anyways, hehe. UNLESS, if I get 1333, I could oc to....hmmmmm......1700? Cool!!

Bearclaw
10-29-06, 01:40 AM
Ya, I can't wait to upgrade to conroe and G80. I wish I had mroe money, man..

GitDat
11-13-06, 07:08 PM
So is this still scheduled for Nov 18th?

stevemedes
11-13-06, 08:16 PM
Ya, I can't wait to upgrade to conroe and G80. I wish I had mroe money, man..

I feel ya man, I feel ya. All i need is like ~$750 more dollars to complete my rig. I already finished my case modding and I'm getting my GTS. Now I need C2D and DDR2 RAM.

evilchris
11-13-06, 08:36 PM
also, they have no idea how long those chips are going to last at 3.2+ghz, they could die out after several months.

Actually Intel could tell you exactly what the reliability of any of their chips would be at any speed.