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technoid
11-04-06, 07:39 AM
After playing the demo I didn't think much of NFS Carbon, but since NFS has always been my favorite racing game I couldn't pass it up when Best Buy had it for $29.99. I've been playing it for two days now and thought I'd share some emails I wrote to my cousin about it as a mini game review. I hope no one minds but I cut and paste both emails below so you can see my First and Second Impressions of the game.

For reference I'm running the game on a P4 3.4, 2G Memory, 6800GT, at 1280x1024.

FIRST IMPRESSION EMAIL

I installed NFS Carbon last night and it took 5.3 Gig on the hard drive. The NoCD patch I got worked so I'm all set.

First Impressions

Last night after I installed it I played a couple of quick races and didn't think much of them. I turned on FRAPS and the frame rate seemed the same to me as the demo so I think the guy answering the questions in the email I sent you yesterday was just saying it was better to get people to buy the game. But like you said if you don't have FRAPS on the races seem okay so I'll quit worrying about that part.

This morning I started a Career and the beginning movie was really cool. I don't know whether to tell you about it or not because it would be a bit of a spoiler if I do. So for now I won't and you can tell me if you want to hear about it or want to wait to play it. But I'll just say this, the intro movie made me want to play the game.

I've been playing it all morning and have a few things unlocked already. I tried out the Muscle Car in a quick race last night but didn't like the way it handled so I picked the Tuner Class when I started a Career this morning. It starts out with you in an RX-8 so that's pretty cool since I liked it so much in Most Wanted.

I will say all the elements we don't like are there and mess it up some but the racing is okay after you accept the dumb stuff. The story in this one seems to be played out a lot more because there's been a lot of cut scenes, which so far has been pretty cool.

So all in all I'm glad I got it. The graphics are definitely not as good as Most Wanted but they're "okay" so I think I'll enjoy playing it.

SECOND IMPRESSION EMAIL

I just got through playing NFS Carbon again and wanted to update you on it. There's mostly good news.

Second Impressions - First Point

I just got through with another race and it was pretty good to me, not to easy and not to hard. But the cool thing about it is during the race the Cops showed up and started chasing me, then several of them was on me. Then after the race was over they were still there just like Most Wanted and I had to keep running from them and ran through a Road Block too. After the Road Block I went around a corner and just sit there for the Cool Down period but right at the end of it a Cop came up and started after me again. So I had to run all over again, very cool. Then after quite a while I seen a place to run into and it was a hiding spot with the circle and everything just like Most Wanted.

So right now I'm liking it pretty well and I think you will too.

Second Impressions - Second Point

I think I've changed my mind about the graphics. I think they are better than Most Wanted and that's why the game runs slower. I was looking at the buildings in the city while I was racing just now and they looked better detailed. So at the moment I think the graphics detail might have when up and that takes more power so the game runs slower. Some of the graphics doesn't look as good to me and some of them looks better.

The Good - The Bad - And The Lockup On Exit

Several times the game locked up when I tried to exit. The game screen just sits there and you can't do anything. I used the Windows Key to get the Task Bar, then used Control Alt Delete to bring up the Task Manager, and then Ended The Task. But I had to do it several times to get it to stop. But so far I've never had to reboot my system. So they need to do a patch to fix that. I've heard they're working on a patch to fix some on-line stuff so I bet this will be fixed in it too.

OWA
11-04-06, 11:19 AM
Yeah, I picked it up yesterday also since it was only $29.99. I like it better than the demo as well but I've only tried the quick-races so far.

No lock-ups on exit using the 93.71 drivers.

raystorm
11-04-06, 11:39 AM
I'm happy that the retail version performs MUCH better than the demo for me but I don't think the game looks as good as Most Wanted. Maybe its the whole night time thing and so far the city doesn't seem that interesting.

Also, does EA realize how goofy those actors look?? AWFUL acting and costumes.

technoid
11-04-06, 12:56 PM
No lock-ups on exit using the 93.71 drivers.

Thanks for the info. It must be something in my system then. I was running 91.47 at first and then installed 93.71 this morning before I played it. The lockup isn't everytime I exit the game but it did it with both sets of drivers. Maybe I've been doing something before I start the game that causes it. I'll have to pay more attention to what I do before I play the game.

technoid
11-04-06, 01:03 PM
I'm happy that the retail version performs MUCH better than the demo for me but I don't think the game looks as good as Most Wanted. Maybe its the whole night time thing and so far the city doesn't seem that interesting.

Also, does EA realize how goofy those actors look?? AWFUL acting and costumes.

At first I thought it looked much worse than most wanted, but some of it was the cartoon type stuff they have sometimes. I say cartoon because it looks kinda goofy to me. But the more I look at stuff the more some of it looks more detailed. But a lot of it still looks goofy to me.

I think EA knows they look goofy, heck how could they not. That's the part that really turned me off at first, but like my cousin says, you have to take each game the way they make it. That's hard for me but that's what I'm trying to do and it's definitely made me able to enjoy it more.

OWA
11-04-06, 01:06 PM
Thanks for the info. It must be something in my system then. I was running 91.47 at first and then installed 93.71 this morning before I played it. The lockup isn't everytime I exit the game but it did it with both sets of drivers. Maybe I've been doing something before I start the game that causes it. I'll have to pay more attention to what I do before I play the game.
It could be that I haven't played it enough to see it if it's not consistent (i.e. if it doesn't do it every time).

Q
11-04-06, 01:39 PM
I get great performance on my x1900xt. I run it with Vsync and triple buffering @ 1280 x 1024 with all options maxed, including AA. I set AF to 16x manually.

I usually hover right around 30-34 fairly consistently. In some chases I might dip to the mid teens for a second, but its not bad at all. It feels a lot better than 30 fps, to be honest.

Does anyone else think the cars are WAY too damn shiny?

OWA
11-04-06, 01:44 PM
Some screenshots after using the resolution hack so I can play it at 1920x1200.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3496/nfsc20sw4.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc20sw4.jpg) http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5659/nfsc21au9.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc21au9.jpg) http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7025/nfsc22na6.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc22na6.jpg) http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1807/nfsc23re7.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc23re7.jpg) http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4879/nfsc24sv9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc24sv9.jpg)

nekrosoft13
11-04-06, 01:46 PM
Some screenshots after using the resolution hack so I can play it at 1920x1200.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3496/nfsc20sw4.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc20sw4.jpg) http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5659/nfsc21au9.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc21au9.jpg) http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7025/nfsc22na6.th.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc22na6.jpg) http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1807/nfsc23re7.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc23re7.jpg) http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4879/nfsc24sv9.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nfsc24sv9.jpg)

settings(in-game and control panel)? performance?

OWA
11-04-06, 01:53 PM
Settings in game are maxed except motion blur is off. I have it set to 4xAA in-game but in the Nv CP I have 16xAF forced. It's mostly in the 40s although it does dip to around 30fps occasionally.

Edit: I used fraps to bench my entire quick-race and it apparently isn't in the 40s most of the time. The avg was around 35 fps.

Avg: 35.125 - Min: 25 - Max: 48

nekrosoft13
11-04-06, 02:30 PM
i was getting much worse performance in the demo

OWA
11-04-06, 02:35 PM
I was also until I started using the NFSMW profile. It seemed to help a lot. Without it, I was in the upper teens and low 20s most of the time.

radekhulan
11-04-06, 04:38 PM
How can you force this game to 1920x1200 ?

// edit: this one works: http://dl.tocaedit.com/ureschanger2.zip

BioHazZarD
11-04-06, 05:10 PM
If you already played underground what new has this game to offer ?

OWA
11-04-06, 05:13 PM
I used uniws and these instructions:

- start NFSC and change the resolution to 640x480
- exit and then rename the NFSC exe to speed2.exe
- run uniws and select NFSU2
- change the resolution to whatever you want
- click patch
- change the speed2.exe back to nfsc.exe

** all this has to be done with the no-cd crack.

nekrosoft13
11-04-06, 05:16 PM
to be excact it has to be on razor no-cd

you gotta love pirates, thanks to them you can actually play in widescreen, EA is just pathetic

$n][pErMan
11-04-06, 07:15 PM
to be excact it has to be on razor no-cd

you gotta love pirates, thanks to them you can actually play in widescreen, EA is just pathetic
Did EA put spyware in this game like BS2142?

Parts
11-06-06, 01:49 AM
What about the stupid team member talking thing that was so annoying in the demo? did it make it to retail or can it be turned off now?

FCGD
11-06-06, 02:01 AM
the graphics dont impress me, even at near maximum settings that OWA is running on. it looks about the same as NFS:MW without the neat lighting effect (instead, darkness, as if thats interesting to look at...), and whats up with the cars having a neon-glow, plastic look to them? that was in NFS:MW, and i cant say i like the effect

nekrosoft13
11-06-06, 07:42 AM
[pErMan']Did EA put spyware in this game like BS2142?

don't know, don't have the game, i might get it when price drops, or if i get to play the full game, so far demo didn't impress me

arioch21
11-06-06, 12:10 PM
What about the stupid team member talking thing that was so annoying in the demo? did it make it to retail or can it be turned off now?

yup, team members are in the retail, though I think you can "fire" them or make them inactive on your races if you dont want them.

OWA
11-06-06, 01:10 PM
...why is it that the there is always a poping sound? is there a way to change the settings of the sound?
No popping sound here.

flukester
11-06-06, 02:59 PM
yup, team members are in the retail, though I think you can "fire" them or make them inactive on your races if you dont want them.

Nope, I believe you must have 1. 1 Minimum and up to 3.

I think the game is a lot better than MW in most every aspect. I heard the demo sucked. Hell I had no interest in this game either, but I bought it for the kids and when I saw it and watched it, it was easily better than MW. To say the car graphics suck.. I'd say, get some glasses. Hehehe, I mean what sucks???? It's not like EA is gonna revamp the whole engine to the game, please... EA spend money on a game??.. EA is rehashing everything.. NFL, Tiger Woods, NHL 2K7... all the same game since 2001.

arioch21
11-06-06, 09:09 PM
Nope, I believe you must have 1. 1 Minimum and up to 3.

I think the game is a lot better than MW in most every aspect. I heard the demo sucked. Hell I had no interest in this game either, but I bought it for the kids and when I saw it and watched it, it was easily better than MW. To say the car graphics suck.. I'd say, get some glasses. Hehehe, I mean what sucks???? It's not like EA is gonna revamp the whole engine to the game, please... EA spend money on a game??.. EA is rehashing everything.. NFL, Tiger Woods, NHL 2K7... all the same game since 2001.

its alot easier though, after playing MW all the way this one feels like childs play. I personally dont think its better, MW cars felt alot better imo, I do like the new car models in this one though. I dont think the game is that bad, but I do still like MW better and more challenging. I beat the first 2 bosses without even trying on the first car u pick and just a few upgrades, only 4 bosses? total to beat in this one while MW had 16? or so I forgot.

radekhulan
11-09-06, 09:02 AM
Anybody have working SLI profile for this game? "2030401" does not seem to do much..