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Bman212121
11-06-06, 01:31 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116060

I just saw this on Newegg, if anyone has info on it please share. This might be exactly what I need to get a little bigger monitor, but not have to pay double the price.

Imbroglio
11-06-06, 04:41 PM
like this info? (http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen3465.html)

or are you looking more for user reviews?

Bman212121
11-06-06, 11:47 PM
Info like that is always great thanks!

I would also like some reivews on the product. The specs won't tell you that the panel has overdrive problems or backlight bleeding, so it's always good to read a few reviews.

Roadhog
11-06-06, 11:52 PM
22" TN panel.. might not be the best for that.

Bman212121
11-06-06, 11:56 PM
22" TN panel.. might not be the best for that.

Which type was the best? TFT?

Imbroglio
11-07-06, 07:29 PM
more help courtesy of harl :) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD#TN.2BFilm)

Bman212121
11-07-06, 09:31 PM
Thanks but I'm getting hardcore deja vu. I didn't understand it the first time nor the second. From the sounds of it all of the technologies suck, so it really doesn't matter.

Sounds like try to find a panel based upon MVA though. So the next question is, what monitors fall under this category?

Imbroglio
11-07-06, 10:08 PM
the one in my sig :D

viewsonic vx2025wm, P-MVA panel

of course the asus pw201 also uses the same panel

Bman212121
11-08-06, 04:45 PM
Hmm, that looks decent, I assume no ghosting right??

I'm not sure if I'd want the viewsonic or the Dell if I were going 20". I was really hoping to find a good 22". I can't afford to go 24", so it would be a nice comprimise.

Imbroglio
11-08-06, 07:31 PM
no ghosting that i can see, and i came from a 8ms TN benq monitor. the reason that the 22" monitors never really caught on is because they are kind of odd, they run the 20" res and for ppl that wanted 1080p resolutions they need 24". so the 22" were just overpriced 20" monitors that still fall short of hdcp compliance for 1080p.

Bman212121
11-09-06, 03:23 AM
no ghosting that i can see, and i came from a 8ms TN benq monitor. the reason that the 22" monitors never really caught on is because they are kind of odd, they run the 20" res and for ppl that wanted 1080p resolutions they need 24". so the 22" were just overpriced 20" monitors that still fall short of hdcp compliance for 1080p.

I guess that makes sense. I'd like the 22" because I have poor eye sight so everything will be a little bigger at 22" vs 20" on the same res. I'm not sure if I could handle my desktop at 16 x 10, it would most likely still have to be at 14 x 9. Then I can just ramp it up for games. I've seen the Dell 2007 and it looks quite impressive. I'm not sure if it was where it was set up, but for some reason it looks a lot bigger than my 19", but it's only an inch. I'll prolly end up with that monitor. :)

Imbroglio
11-09-06, 08:44 AM
personally i went from a 19" 4:3 monitor to a 20" 16:10 monitor and you are right, the difference between the two monitor makes it feel like a lot more than an inch. the 20" is shorter heighth wise, but it is like sticking two inches onto the width, and that makes it feel like you gain a lot.

Bearclaw
11-09-06, 10:45 AM
personally i went from a 19" 4:3 monitor to a 20" 16:10 monitor and you are right, the difference between the two monitor makes it feel like a lot more than an inch. the 20" is shorter heighth wise, but it is like sticking two inches onto the width, and that makes it feel like you gain a lot.
I agree. MY friend brought over his widescreen for me to look at and maybe buy. I currently have a 17 inch and his was the Sceptre 20.1 Widescreen...holy crap I was blown away. It was frickin huge to me..

Smokey
11-09-06, 01:19 PM
AS-IPS - Advanced Super IPS, also developed by the LG.Philips LCD joint venture, improves substantially on the contrast ratio of traditional S-IPS panels to the point where they are second only to some S-PVAs.

This is the panel used in the monitor in my sig. You can read up on the user reviews over at widescreengaming.com, very helpful forum.

Imbroglio
11-09-06, 01:43 PM
just out of curiosity where did you get that your nec was a 10-bit panel???

ws gaming forum review (http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=NEC_20WMGX2)

lcd spec site (http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen2680.html)

16.7 bit depth s-ips panel made by lg... i'm just curious because i've never heard of a 10-bit monitor... well ones that weren't pro 12-bit medical imaging monitors

8-bit -> 10-bit w/ dithering??? i'm very confused by the comments you just made

edit: just got thinking, i believe your nec has 10-bit with dithering, NEC calls it overdrive. its where the pixels surround a color pixel flash to give the effect that you are looking at the real color, but i doubt it is a true 10-bit monitor, as any panel >8-bit is used by imaging professionals and costs more than $3k for a 20" monitor

Smokey
11-09-06, 03:02 PM
just out of curiosity where did you get that your nec was a 10-bit panel???

ws gaming forum review (http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php?title=NEC_20WMGX2)

lcd spec site (http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen2680.html)

16.7 bit depth s-ips panel made by lg... i'm just curious because i've never heard of a 10-bit monitor... well ones that weren't pro 12-bit medical imaging monitors

8-bit -> 10-bit w/ dithering??? i'm very confused by the comments you just made

edit: just got thinking, i believe your nec has 10-bit with dithering, NEC calls it overdrive. its where the pixels surround a color pixel flash to give the effect that you are looking at the real color, but i doubt it is a true 10-bit monitor, as any panel >8-bit is used by imaging professionals and costs more than $3k for a 20" monitor

Edited my post, pretty I made an error there, I was going from memory something I had read in a thread about this monitor. After searching, it seems that a comparison was being made between 6bit and true 8bit.

After seeing that the 8800 supports 10bit, that got me thinking that my monitor was 10bit.

Thanks for pointing out my error, I had giving out wrong information :)

Anyway, my point is that this is an amazing monitor, best yet in terms of image quality I have seen on a LCD :captnkill:

Imbroglio
11-09-06, 03:54 PM
yes, the nec you have is considered to be the very best 20" ws monitor :D

Bman212121
11-10-06, 10:26 AM
Thanks for all of the help Imbroglio! I think my next monitor is gonna be a 20" of some kind. :captnkill:

Mr_LoL
11-10-06, 01:48 PM
This is what I plan on getting next
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?ProductID=15263