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Gaco
11-07-06, 04:54 PM
Flame away, but ain't it the truth..
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8933/3566imagec6c63bbj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I have nothing against PS3, I'm sure it's gonna be a great console and all, but Sony did hype it waaay too much to begin with, making an ass of themselfs imho :p

Zelda_fan
11-07-06, 05:27 PM
I triple guarantee.

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/3589/bagdadboblargeib2.gif

All lies.

PS3 launch will not fail.

Bad_Boy
11-07-06, 05:28 PM
lets see here
we got warhawk, which actually has 100's of planes on screen at once in the game, that was never a lie.

genji, never passed a long as cg

motorstorm, cg no doubt, but check out the game now, looks ****ing amazing

tekken, i blame namco, they havent done anything specatular this next gen, they obviously are reworking the game, which is why we havent seen it for over a year

tiger woods, i blame ea. they did the same with fight night, madden, nba live, etc. and they look the same on the 360

untold, was definately never passed along as real time, the game looked terrible the first time it was shown

mgs4, not too sure about, it looks good in some parts but bad in others, im guessing placeholders. but it was always real time.

nice flamebait thread though. im surprised we dont have killzone on there. lol

Quickstar
11-07-06, 05:43 PM
Whats the point? It's not like PS3 owners won't get any good looking games because they will.

Zelda_fan
11-07-06, 05:46 PM
Whats the point? It's not like PS3 owners won't get any good looking games because they will.

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/3589/bagdadboblargeib2.gif

Gaco
11-07-06, 05:49 PM
lets see here
we got warhawk, which actually has 100's of planes on screen at once in the game, that was never a lie.

genji, never passed a long as cg

motorstorm, cg no doubt, but check out the game now, looks ****ing amazing

tekken, i blame namco, they havent done anything specatular this next gen, they obviously are reworking the game, which is why we havent seen it for over a year

tiger woods, i blame ea. they did the same with fight night, madden, nba live, etc. and they look the same on the 360

untold, was definately never passed along as real time, the game looked terrible the first time it was shown

mgs4, not too sure about, it looks good in some parts but bad in others, im guessing placeholders. but it was always real time.

nice flamebait thread though. im surprised we dont have killzone on there. lol

"Yeah blame anyone but Sony, they're totally innocent! What? Did..did Microsoft actually only show ingame graphics at all the conferences/expos they attended to, while Sony had a far larger percentage of prerendered and visually exaggerated stuff? Coincidence I tell you, coincidence!!"

Bull**** :p

Whats the point? It's not like PS3 owners won't get any good looking games because they will.

The point is to point out how far the hype/lies/manipulation actually extended.

Mr. Hunt
11-07-06, 05:51 PM
I love how you put Lost Odyssey in there with the 360 games... it must be so hard to push those graphics on a ... GASP! TURN BASED GAME!

Get real man.

Bad_Boy
11-07-06, 05:56 PM
Yeah blame anyone but Sony, they're totally innocent! What? Did..did Microsoft actually only show ingame graphics at all the conferences/expos they attended to, while Sony had a far larger percentage of prerendered and exaggerated stuff? Now THAT is one giant coincidence.

Bull**** :p
ah please spare me. I'm sure you remember the first time we saw the madden cg, the first time we saw the fight night face, the first time we saw tiger woods. 2 out of 3 of those were not first seen at a sony conference. nobody talks about COD3 cg, halo wars cg, MOH:AA cg, etc. they all do it.

now I'm not denying sony doesnt do that, don't put words in my mouth. killzone and motorstorm are proof of that.

im just trying to be fair, not all of those games are lies (genji, warhawk, untold, etc), and not all of those games are sony's products (tiger, tekken) kojima for example, some say it was downgraded, but if you ask me, the halo 3 trailer and the new halo 3 pictures look downgraded to me, no where close to the halo 3 real time footage we saw. but its flamebait to point that out, because halo isnt done for another year. hell, namco pulled the same cg bull for RR6 for the 360.

if you want to talk "lies", I could point out a few from all 3 companies if you like. the road goes both ways is all im saying.

now all we need to make this thread complete is a joke picture from evilchris and nv40 going bonkers.

Zelda_fan
11-07-06, 05:56 PM
I love how you put Lost Odyssey in there with the 360 games... it must be so hard to push those graphics on a ... GASP! TURN BASED GAME!

Get real man.

Yeah because you know Tiger Woods PS3 golf is ultra fast paced and requires 100fps minimum for quality gameplay.

superklye
11-07-06, 05:57 PM
I triple guarantee.

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/3589/bagdadboblargeib2.gif

All lies.

PS3 launch will not fail.
This post made me LOL IRL.

evilchris
11-07-06, 06:22 PM
lets see here
we got warhawk, which actually has 100's of planes on screen at once in the game, that was never a lie.

genji, never passed a long as cg

motorstorm, cg no doubt, but check out the game now, looks ****ing amazing

tekken, i blame namco, they havent done anything specatular this next gen, they obviously are reworking the game, which is why we havent seen it for over a year

tiger woods, i blame ea. they did the same with fight night, madden, nba live, etc. and they look the same on the 360

untold, was definately never passed along as real time, the game looked terrible the first time it was shown

mgs4, not too sure about, it looks good in some parts but bad in others, im guessing placeholders. but it was always real time.

nice flamebait thread though. im surprised we dont have killzone on there. lolRight on cue

Bad_Boy
11-07-06, 06:26 PM
what no picture? you disappoint me chris. ;)

|MaguS|
11-07-06, 06:28 PM
Love how teh "actual" shots are the worse shots... Tekken is a long way away to even compare say that the final will look like that is stupid, look at how much TTT changed between the US and Japan release (Japans had frame rate issues and tons of jaggies, the US both these problems were fixed).

How do we know those Halo shots are ingame? Because Bungi says so?

Motorstorm almost looks very close to what was shown, If you say it looks bad then you are a ****ing liar... no nice way to put it.

How come you dont post the resistance shots? Or Ridge Racer 7 which looks better then Ridge Racer 6 on the X360. How about PS3's Fight Night?

Lets look at some X360 games now since you like to point out the poor stuff (or just bad shots).
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5160/theoutfit20060216035254qb1.th.jpg (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theoutfit20060216035254qb1.jpg)

Oh heres a good comparison... Guess which is PS2 and Which is X360...
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9259/56245920040831screen001wc9.th.jpg (http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56245920040831screen001wc9.jpg) http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8687/92925620050726screen003vx4.th.jpg (http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92925620050726screen003vx4.jpg)

Yup no difference here folks...
(Gameplay)
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/7456/gearsofwar2006110703494we7.th.jpg (http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gearsofwar2006110703494we7.jpg)
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4742/gearsofwar2006110703500gs9.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gearsofwar2006110703500gs9.jpg)

(Not Gameplay, Early Shots)
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/1820/gearsofwar2005051701270tx2.th.jpg (http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gearsofwar2005051701270tx2.jpg)
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8981/gearsofwar2005100309564bx5.th.jpg (http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gearsofwar2005100309564bx5.jpg)

Zelda_fan
11-07-06, 06:28 PM
what no picture? you disappoint me chris. ;)

I already got it. No need to be redundant.

evilchris
11-07-06, 06:28 PM
what no picture? you disappoint me chris. ;)

i've used them all

Bad_Boy
11-07-06, 06:38 PM
I already got it. No need to be redundant.
that one is getting old though, evilchris usually comes up with more fresh material.
i've used them all
:(

six_storm
11-07-06, 07:07 PM
Yeah, where is the Killzone 2 in-game footage?

evilchris
11-07-06, 07:09 PM
Yeah, where is the Killzone 2 in-game footage?

Currently being pre-rendered and recorded for playback.

Mr. Hunt
11-07-06, 11:33 PM
And now I love how you people completely avoid the fact that Badboy just owned you all with those GoW shots.

Buenamos
11-08-06, 01:27 AM
And now I love how you people completely avoid the fact that Badboy just owned you all with those GoW shots.

You obviously haven't played all the way through GoW have u? It literally looks like a movie at times and easily matches the pics that were shown at the bottom he posted. I was playing and I had a bunch of buddies come in while I was playing the huge spider guy in the caves and they didn't even know I was playing a game. They thought it was some CGI movie like Final Fantasy or somethin.

Zelda_fan
11-08-06, 01:29 AM
And now I love how you people completely avoid the fact that Badboy just owned you all with those GoW shots.

Was this you? Come on, fess up.

Irish step dancer Michael Flatley was scared ... very scared ... very, very scared by the stalker who breached security at his Monte Carlo manse while he slept the other night.

Sure, the furtive fellow ran away when Flatley awoke and gave chase. And yes, local police are pretty sure that the intruder was an overly enthusiastic fan, rather than a sticky-fingered thief. But that doesn't make the hoofer feel any better now.

"It's no exaggeration that what happened now feels like a rape," Flatley told the Irish Mirror. "He was standing there waiting for me."

http://archive.salon.com/people/col/reit/2001/05/14/npmon/index.html

Mr_LoL
11-08-06, 01:59 AM
Why do people post these sort of threads? They just lead to pointless flamewars.

Mr. Hunt
11-08-06, 03:36 AM
You obviously haven't played all the way through GoW have u? It literally looks like a movie at times and easily matches the pics that were shown at the bottom he posted. I was playing and I had a bunch of buddies come in while I was playing the huge spider guy in the caves and they didn't even know I was playing a game. They thought it was some CGI movie like Final Fantasy or somethin.

Ok then... have you people played through Warhawk? Genji? Metal Gear Solid 4? Didn't think so so I can use your same logic against you.

Gaco
11-08-06, 06:09 AM
ah please spare me. I'm sure you remember the first time we saw the madden cg, the first time we saw the fight night face, the first time we saw tiger woods. 2 out of 3 of those were not first seen at a sony conference. nobody talks about COD3 cg, halo wars cg, MOH:AA cg, etc. they all do it.

now I'm not denying sony doesnt do that, don't put words in my mouth. killzone and motorstorm are proof of that.

im just trying to be fair, not all of those games are lies (genji, warhawk, untold, etc), and not all of those games are sony's products (tiger, tekken) kojima for example, some say it was downgraded, but if you ask me, the halo 3 trailer and the new halo 3 pictures look downgraded to me, no where close to the halo 3 real time footage we saw. but its flamebait to point that out, because halo isnt done for another year. hell, namco pulled the same cg bull for RR6 for the 360.

if you want to talk "lies", I could point out a few from all 3 companies if you like. the road goes both ways is all im saying.

now all we need to make this thread complete is a joke picture from evilchris and nv40 going bonkers.

Difference is that Sony used the CG footage to try and fool everyone into thinking that it was ingame. Either they directly lied about it and said it was ingame, or they kinda evaded the question, not answering directly because they knew it would be a lie (they actually did a bit in-between those). All the CG footage of upcoming Xbox360 (and most of them you mention are multiplatform btw - using CoD3 is a bad example, since it's coming out for PS3 as well), it's obvious that it isn't ingame footage and no one is trying to claim that.

The Halo 3 footage and screenshots are not in ANY WAY downgraded and they have already proven it to be 100% realtime by moving the camara around the whole scene, showing grids etc.

You can try and convince me that Sony hasn't lied more about cg/ingame all you want, be my memory goes 2 years back at E3 thank you. And how can you explain how I still meet many people that says PS3 is soooo much better than Xbox360 because they either heard form a übernerd or worse, saw the difference in screenshots and trailers. They gotta get that notion out of their heads, but Sony has succeeded. They have established a general consensus that PS3 is graphically much more powerful than the Xbox360, and only the hardcore gamers and those who are informed of the news.

Gaco
11-08-06, 06:13 AM
Why do people post these sort of threads? They just lead to pointless flamewars.
I repeat: To point out how far the Sony hype/lies/manipulation actually extended. As I already said in my first post, PS3 is gonna be a highend badass console with cool games, I just don't like the way Sony tried to sell their product.

Ok then... have you people played through Warhawk? Genji? Metal Gear Solid 4? Didn't think so so I can use your same logic against you.

Difference is they're not out yet, they're not even close to gold yet. The screenshots show obvious difference, while GoW looks exactly the same from first footage to final game. MaGuS can try and post upsized, bad quality screenshots all he wants, anyone who's played the game knows this.