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Droid6
11-15-06, 11:40 PM
CLICK HERE for extreme lameness. (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html?RSSwhen2006-11-15_152700&RSSid=746282)

rek075
11-15-06, 11:46 PM
So basically if your HD tv supports only 1080i and not 720p, then you are forced to play with 480p resolution?

Droid6
11-15-06, 11:47 PM
Yup.

Zelda_fan
11-15-06, 11:47 PM
So basically, Sony just lubed your ass and **** a **** in it.

toxikneedle
11-15-06, 11:58 PM
those are mostly tubes if i'm not mistaken? is there some kind of a vga cable for them maybe?

Droid6
11-16-06, 12:05 AM
I have a 2004 Mitsubishi RP CRT and it only does 480i/p and 1080i, so I would have to play at 480p. :thumbdwn:

Marvel_us
11-16-06, 12:08 AM
This is going to seriously suck for people who fall in this category.

I'm not affected by it but I'd be pissed off if I was.

Badboy_12345
11-16-06, 12:23 AM
I wonder why they didn't mention it sooner :rolleyes:

don't you just love sony? :lol:
bs after bs :p

the thing is if you have a 1080p tv and the game is built in 720p then it will run in 720p or use your tvs scaler which is totally crap on most tvs.
the x360 looks better and better for every day and MS doesn't even have to do anything sony is digging their own grave :p

Hex
11-16-06, 12:25 AM
I really want to know why people are so doom and gloom emo about things right out of the gate when common sense dictates that this will most likely be one of the first things hit with a firmware update.
It has the scaling hardware to do it already.

Droid6
11-16-06, 12:29 AM
I really want to know why people are so doom and gloom emo about things right out of the gate when common sense dictates that this will most likely be one of the first things hit with a firmware update.
It has the scaling hardware to do it already.

Are you sure? No? OK, thanks for the input, buh-bye.

Hex
11-16-06, 12:36 AM
Are you sure? No? OK, thanks for the input, buh-bye.
Go cry some more.

Droid6
11-16-06, 12:40 AM
Go cry some more.

Who's is crying you retard? Your retort is a bore, don't you have some pimples to pop or something?

Mathesar
11-16-06, 01:24 AM
Er ok.. I have a CRT HDTV which up-scales 720p sources to 1080i, so I shouldn't be affected by this issue then right?

MustangSVT
11-16-06, 01:51 AM
You'll be ok. But ideally you'd want to set the console to whatever best res is convenient so that you go through as less scaling as possible (and usually the console will prolly scale a lil better than the TV itself).

Example:

dlp/lcos/lcd set with 1080p input
- 1080p

crt/crt rear projection/ 1080p sets with 1080i input
- 1080i res

lcd/dlp/lcos/so on with 720p native
- 720p

lcd/dlp/lcd projection so on with 768p native
- either 720p or 768p

Badboy_12345
11-16-06, 02:06 AM
I really want to know why people are so doom and gloom emo about things right out of the gate when common sense dictates that this will most likely be one of the first things hit with a firmware update.
It has the scaling hardware to do it already.

as far as I heard it actually doesnt have scaling hardware

Banko
11-16-06, 08:34 AM
Scaling hardware? It is called the Cell, it is a CPU any CPU be it a 486(though slow) can upscale video.

Namrok
11-16-06, 08:40 AM
Scaling hardware? It is called the Cell, it is a CPU any CPU be it a 486(though slow) can upscale video.

Well, the big question is can it do it while preserving image quality and frame rates. As I understand it, MS spend a lot of time perfecting their scaling, I believe its on its own chip, but I could be wrong.

Banko
11-16-06, 09:42 AM
Well, the big question is can it do it while preserving image quality and frame rates. As I understand it, MS spend a lot of time perfecting their scaling, I believe its on its own chip, but I could be wrong.
Why not? It's all algorithms, I don't see why it can't do it.

nekrosoft13
11-16-06, 09:46 AM
someone post the article

Reason:
The Websense category "Games" is filtered.


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i wanna see what sony ****ed up now

Droid6
11-16-06, 11:22 AM
CLICK HERE (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bull****) for a visual summary.

Namrok
11-16-06, 11:36 AM
Why not? It's all algorithms, I don't see why it can't do it.

It can't do it for the same reason a CPU can't do Graphics with the same quality and speed as even a cheap dedicated graphics card. Different pieces of hardware are good at different things, it's just how it is.

Now how that relates to the PS3 being weird about 1080i, I don't know, I'm not familiar with its specifications. I'm just saying, it may, or it may not, be as simple as a software update. What I do know is that MS was very proud of the amount of work they spent on their up/downscaling, so I assume it's not arbitrary.

six_storm
11-16-06, 11:43 AM
CLICK HERE (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bull****) for a visual summary.

Hahaha!!! Amen to that!

Quickstar
11-16-06, 12:43 PM
It seems like the majority of people who do pay attention and care about things like resolution already have the capable hardware. My projector has everything i need so this news doesn't bother me a bit.

Remember PS3 haters, its all about the games right?

evilchris
11-16-06, 12:45 PM
Most 720p sets still in use will handle it. They will half the resolution to 540p and then scale that to 720. There will be a loss in quality.

six_storm
11-16-06, 12:49 PM
Remember PS3 haters, its all about the games right?

Totally, agreed. Although I'm not a complete P$3 hater, Sony does have some serious work to do with their game line ups. That's why I'm waiting a good year or so to buy my P$3 (and also a price drop, geez!).