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11-26-06, 12:28 PM
While I have done some minor moding in the past (mostly blowholes) I've decided to make a run with this case.

As seen in my "It Has Begun!" thread I have started building a new machine. The case is a P180B w/window. I am not only going to watercool this thing and run with a red lighting motif, but I've decided to go with a Dark Side Star Wars theme.

In order to get the pump in the right place and have better airflow I decided to remove the top HD cage fan grill and the back fan grill. Both were cut using a dremel and smothing out the edges a bit with sandpaper.


Note that the front cut LOOKS to be offcenter due to the screw holes in the case. However those holes are not used. The front fan is screwed onto a plastic plate that slides into place and does center on the fan hole.


I had to cut out the roof of the 3.5 floppy bay as I needed more clearance for my pump and just removing the lowest 5.25 bay wasn't going to be enough. I decided to leave the sides on the 3.5 bay as they provide good cover for wires and such.


That is pretty much the cutting for now.

Below are ideas of what I think I will be having painted on the case. I have found a local custom paint show here in Fredericksburg and am going to talk with them later this week as to what they can do and how much it will cost.

For the right side:


and for the front door:


As for the window side, I'm not sure yet. I was thinking of just leaving it black and maybe hanging some Star Wars micomachines inside of it along with the red watercooling/lighting.


So, what do you guys think? Any ideas/suggestions?

11-26-06, 12:41 PM
Cut out the front 120mm fan grill and trim everything with rubber door trim which you can buy at Autozone for like 2.50 for 6 feet of the stuff. Its easiest if you warm it up using a hairdryer because it makes it easier to fit it around the metal.
As for the little figurines. Maybe if you made a little 3d scene on the side panel or something with maybe a space battle between an xwing or a tie fighter. Just some random thoughts. Cuts look good so far I'll be watching this one.

11-26-06, 03:21 PM
Does anybody know how/where I can get a custom cling made? I think I would rather do this than a paint job as I can get a more detailed look to it.

Basicly I want to be able to take some pics and photochop them into the arrangement I want and then either take that file to somplace and have them print me out a correct size clear cling or email it to a place and have them mail the completed item back to me.


11-30-06, 10:10 AM
Okay, got the case back from the painters. It went pretty well. I used an interior auto paint, so it was flat and a vinyl base (I think). The guy did a pretty good job in my opinion. I'll be adding in the PSU, HD, and a couple of fans today. Still waiting on DD to get the 8800GTX block in stock.

More pics in a bit.


You can see here how the interior case paint matches up to the exterior finish. Looks good to me, just less shine (and thus less fingerprints and dust show up).


PSU, HD cage, & fan in place (Yate Loon D12SL-12 will be used T/O)


As you can see I allready have a bit of touch up to do here and there. Not a big deal but basicly anywhere where its going to scrape will need a fine touch brush to it.

11-30-06, 11:07 AM
For the window, while don't you try to do a glass etching of some stars wars related scene. That way, you have something star wars on the the window but the lighting and the inside can still easily be seen. I guess you'd need to create a star wars stencil or maybe you can buy them (not sure).

Actually, I think Tikiman1, had something like that done to his window. Maybe he'd be able to help with that.

11-30-06, 12:59 PM
I was thinking of doing another window cling overlay on the computer window. Either an imperial insignia or maybe just some stars.

I think I'm going to stay with the window cling for the art so I can change it to something else if I want to (AvP perhaps)

11-30-06, 02:08 PM
I was thinking of doing another window cling overlay on the computer window. Either an imperial insignia or maybe just some stars.

I think I'm going to stay with the window cling for the art so I can change it to something else if I want to (AvP perhaps)
The imperial insignia would be really cool.

11-30-06, 02:21 PM
Yeah, that sounds good.

11-30-06, 04:19 PM
The idea here is to mount a low speed fan to vent the case and also provide mounts for the radiator. I plan on putting a air shield between the fan and the rad intake to that the hot air out of the case is deflected up and the rad takes in cool air from below. The rad is going to be a DD Black Ice 240GTS with 2 of the Yate Loons mounted to the BACK to PULL air through it. I do wish the screws were a bit longer but 50mm is the longest I could find at Lowes in this size. I may fiddle with this more in the future. Also I will do testing once done showing the difference (if any) between the deflector and none.


This is some simple floor padding bought at Lowes. I put some cheap flat black over it to match. I plan on using this plus some velcrow to mount the pump in the case.


Velcrow in place.


Padding on top.


Pump in place also.



Hopefully this will dampen the vibrational effects of the pump on the case and reduce overall noise.

More to come.

P.S. (I was able to purchase my DD 8800GTX block this afternoon. There is still some concern weather or not it will ship today. Hopefully it will or that $40 I payed for overnight will be wasted. I also got their new 680i block and some tubing (7/16 ID).)

11-30-06, 05:41 PM
The Danger Den 5.25 bay resivour didn't have the correct mount holes for my case. They only included the lower set holes and I needed to use midline holes to mount correctly.

So measuring 3/4" down from the top and lining up the drill points with the holes below I used a 9/32 bit and GENTLE pressure to get the correct mount spots. I just eyed how deep to go. You have to be CAREFUL as you could easily go through to the actual res ..... and that would be bad.

The top wholes are the ones I did.


and here it is installed.


12-01-06, 12:38 PM
While waiting for my larger rad and 8800GTX block to show on Tuesday, I decided to do a rough run on the pump and clean out the blocks, pump, and res.


I just hooked it up to an empty molex on my current machine and set it on the floor. Hookup was EASY except for the pump. I guess you pretty much HAVE to boil the tubing end in water before sliding it on, its THAT tight.


Anywho, a little starting and stopping and turning/taping the componants got probably 99% of the air out of the line. The D5 pump is VERY silent once that is done. All I am hearing right now is the trickle of water as the res gets refilled. I suppose that will go away once I fully fill it as there will be less air to have turbulance against.

I'll let this run for a bit and then drain and do it again. Just want to get some practice AND clean out the parts before going live.

12-02-06, 11:59 PM
Now thats a great idea, youŽd done a great work so far, iŽm dying to see the result(nana2) , by the way, have you think that instead of painting at least the rigth side, you culd have a sticker printed in some stickers place?:)

Spartan 117
12-03-06, 01:51 AM
sweet project, I want to do sumthing like that for my rig :)

12-05-06, 04:35 PM
I'm giving this a quick try before I commit. I want to cool the MCP (SB) WITHOUT a louad 40mm screamer chipset cooler on it. I bought a MAZE 4 chipset block from DD just before they put out a 680i chipset (NB) cooler, so I had an extra. After doing alot of measuring and thinking I decided to cut off the straight screwslot as it was in the way (too high and ran into the 8800GTX card) AND was not in the right position to give me good access to the barbs.




The zip ties are for now. It gives me good enough contact. The block moves if pushed but holds in place if left alone. IF this works out allright I'll cut the tied and use thermal ADHESIVE to hold the block on.

The rest of my stuff showed today and I cannot stress enough how much more flexable and easy to work with the masterkleer tubing is as opposed to the home depot stuff. Night and day people. WELL worth the money.

The 7/16th tubing work VERY well on the 1/2 barbs IF you boil the tubing so its more maluable. Once again the pump barbs were the hardest part but I eventually worked them on (with only minor steam burns to show for it).




Looking good to now to add the actual fluid. I'm using FluidXP+Extreme red.




So far so good. No leaks and I probably have 90% of the air out of the loop. Can't hear the pump at all nor any trickle from the rad. I'll be turning it off and on a few times while tipping it here and there. Its a little harder this time as I have to beware of the intake from the res this time, its not gonna stay flat like the testbed and I don't want air to get back into the loop.

Now we play the waiting game. /fingerscrossed

12-05-06, 04:41 PM
Wow, looking very impressive! Thanks for the pics and updates.

12-05-06, 04:51 PM
Lazaredz get your action in the G80 Rig Competition immediately!!!!:D

That is amazing stuff right there. Just place one pic in the thread and consider yourself entered.:)


12-05-06, 04:52 PM
Beautiful work Lazaredz!

12-05-06, 05:22 PM
I'm waiting til I'm pretty much done Tiki (might take a few more months to get the art done) but I'll be in before the new year. Just wanted to make my entrance into the contest as complete as possiable. Wiring, lights, and temps .... all that good stuff.

Newer possabilities for the side:


and front:


Still alot of work to do.

P.S. I am NOT an artist by any means. I have just found this stuff on the net so far and am getting stock shots from the movies to work with right now. If ANYONE is REALLY good at this stuff and wants to help (or has a friend that could help) PLEASE PM me.

12-05-06, 08:47 PM
Outstanding work, Lazaredz. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Star Wars artwork you've shown so far. Like you, I can't wait to see the finished product.

Spartan 117
12-05-06, 09:05 PM
nice wrok so far, can't wait to see the final build :thumbsup:

12-05-06, 10:36 PM
And we are LIVE:



Wiring needs a little tweak here and there but I think this is pretty much it. I do have an 8-pin extension coming later this week so that cord SHOULD end up going up to the right with the rest and then come across the top and drop.

Initial testing shows:




Not sure how those numbers compair but I'm pretty happy so far.

More testing and touchups to come!!!

P.S. anyone got a good program for monitoring temps CORRECTLY. nvmonitor and speedfan are crap (IMO). I need a GOOD CPU and MCP temp monitor I can use in windows.

12-05-06, 11:05 PM
wow, isnt that a little hot for water cooling?

12-05-06, 11:20 PM
wow, isnt that a little hot for water cooling?

What, the load temps?

Perhaps, but then again I'm running a low noise/low speed fan. These things only turn at 1200rpm right now. I also have the MCP in the loop which is a HOT little bitch that no one else (that I am aware of) is watercooling.

If 57 is my T-max on the CPU with this thing, I'll take it. I also have it OC'd to 3.6Ghz and Vcore up to 1.5.

Xion X2
12-05-06, 11:22 PM
^ Not for having the G80 in your loop, no. It heats the CPU up about 10-12C. It's about where mine runs at w/ that kind of an overclock on it.

12-05-06, 11:24 PM
^ Not for having the G80 in your loop, no. It heats the CPU up about 10-12C. It's about where mine runs at w/ that kind of an overclock on it.

:O I thought water cooling could handle that heat lol... Guess im going to get 2 loops now. :P