mathew952
12-16-06, 08:58 AM
I want your oppinions. Recently, AMD-ATI announced a Graphics based CPU, operating with a 360million Floating Points, vs thier top cpu at 30 million. Intel is probably looking into this for budget CPU's based on the intel extreme graphics integrated series.AMD-ATI has said that it will actually fall into a mainstram price, to. Now, while these chips aren't going to be a chip of the silicon block for a few months, it raises some intresting questions, some based on AMD's 4x4 plans.
4X4 BECOME 2X2?
First off, if you have the power of 12 CPUs in one, a dual cpu operation will easily be able to handle regular programing( which, if you think about it, is capped at 30 million FPO becasue nothing faster is around) with 1/12 of it's power, nearly 690 million floting points, leaving it to graphics sounds, what ever...So, wouldn't it be overkill to have 4 CPUS.... actually that would be really awesome. imagine that amount of Owning... 1410 million FPO's for graphics.(nana2) (nana2) :captnkill: which raises another question, about the viablility of the GPU itslef.
WILL THE GPU DIE?
The oringination of the gpu was due to the low power of cpus. in those early days, we decided that the best way to cope with it was to allow the CPU to dedicate itslef to running you machiene, then have the GPU make it look pretty. but now with this recent inovation, 690million-1410 million spare FPOs... do we really need an extra GPU? Lets look at this seriously. If we run with this whole 2-4 CPU set up, then if we put in a GPU, all of that excess number crunching goodness( mmm...Owning) is wasted, and while GPU are stong, it is limited to just that GPU. So interms of speed, it makes no sense to waste all of that power.
And speaking of power, These CGPUs are like almost all CPU on the market, and that mean each one will run at a max of 100 watts. four of those will only need 400W, and a 550W-600W would easily run that. But a single, slower DX10 card... 300W. a recomended 800W PSU. Oh, and even if you don't mind shoveling your money over to ENRON, this thing is hot. and big.
You won't have any overclocking at all, probably need a very advanced air or water cooling system, just to keep it from overheating, and air won't work because that monster of a card is blocking everything. Then there's $$$$. Not only do pay for a fancy PSU, Power, and a cooling system, you then actually have to pay for the card itself. You'd probably spend, if a gamer, around 400 on a cpu any way. so lets say that you spend 800 on your 2 kick ass CPUs. then spend 600 on a single GPU. hmmmm.... I don't know about you, but i like to spend less for more, not the other wy around.
And the best part of the CPU-G?
DX-who cares. When you buy a GPU, it is limited to one DX range. So if you pay 600 for DX10, in a few years, you'll pay up again. the CPU advantage? Just download the new DX and drivers. also, you can keep it for multiple genrations, hindered only be power of your CPU. So it will be an Enthusiast card one time, then a hardcore, then a gamer, then budget, then a new one.
This also means AMD could really beat out intel, once and for all, but the issue with that, is the reason technology keeps moving forward is the competition, so lets hope niether is whiped out.
Any thoughts?EDIT: So sorry, I meant Gigaflops, not floating points. check out the article on this form for the exact details. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80385
4X4 BECOME 2X2?
First off, if you have the power of 12 CPUs in one, a dual cpu operation will easily be able to handle regular programing( which, if you think about it, is capped at 30 million FPO becasue nothing faster is around) with 1/12 of it's power, nearly 690 million floting points, leaving it to graphics sounds, what ever...So, wouldn't it be overkill to have 4 CPUS.... actually that would be really awesome. imagine that amount of Owning... 1410 million FPO's for graphics.(nana2) (nana2) :captnkill: which raises another question, about the viablility of the GPU itslef.
WILL THE GPU DIE?
The oringination of the gpu was due to the low power of cpus. in those early days, we decided that the best way to cope with it was to allow the CPU to dedicate itslef to running you machiene, then have the GPU make it look pretty. but now with this recent inovation, 690million-1410 million spare FPOs... do we really need an extra GPU? Lets look at this seriously. If we run with this whole 2-4 CPU set up, then if we put in a GPU, all of that excess number crunching goodness( mmm...Owning) is wasted, and while GPU are stong, it is limited to just that GPU. So interms of speed, it makes no sense to waste all of that power.
And speaking of power, These CGPUs are like almost all CPU on the market, and that mean each one will run at a max of 100 watts. four of those will only need 400W, and a 550W-600W would easily run that. But a single, slower DX10 card... 300W. a recomended 800W PSU. Oh, and even if you don't mind shoveling your money over to ENRON, this thing is hot. and big.
You won't have any overclocking at all, probably need a very advanced air or water cooling system, just to keep it from overheating, and air won't work because that monster of a card is blocking everything. Then there's $$$$. Not only do pay for a fancy PSU, Power, and a cooling system, you then actually have to pay for the card itself. You'd probably spend, if a gamer, around 400 on a cpu any way. so lets say that you spend 800 on your 2 kick ass CPUs. then spend 600 on a single GPU. hmmmm.... I don't know about you, but i like to spend less for more, not the other wy around.
And the best part of the CPU-G?
DX-who cares. When you buy a GPU, it is limited to one DX range. So if you pay 600 for DX10, in a few years, you'll pay up again. the CPU advantage? Just download the new DX and drivers. also, you can keep it for multiple genrations, hindered only be power of your CPU. So it will be an Enthusiast card one time, then a hardcore, then a gamer, then budget, then a new one.
This also means AMD could really beat out intel, once and for all, but the issue with that, is the reason technology keeps moving forward is the competition, so lets hope niether is whiped out.
Any thoughts?EDIT: So sorry, I meant Gigaflops, not floating points. check out the article on this form for the exact details. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80385