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[slick]

Actually as a pally ( I was first a pally before a rogue ) Warlocks are easy to get away from, thats my build, holy/protection, so I can pretty much survive anything thrown at me. But as a rogue, I can kill a warlock with 2-3 hits, the thing here is I HAVE to be cloaked because i get a 10% boost in damage, plus i have to hit from behind with a ambush and thats around 1800-2000 damage and then a backstab, thats another 1400-1600 damage, and maybe throw a eviscerate at the end. I have not tried the cloak of shadows yet cause i love my build right now and it works pretty good. However, if im not cloaked im pretty much dead so its extremely important that you are always hidden, run back and get out of combat and recloak. I count on the element of surprise. Cloak of shadows is getting nerfed though from what i understand, its going to require level 66 when expansion hits.

CloS isn't getting nerfed, quite the contrary. It's getting buffed in TBC. It's going to become a trainable class skill, like you said, available at level 66. However, its cooldown is being reduced to 1 minute. On the flip side, it will no longer be affected by prep, which is a downer, but CloS on a 1 minute CD is nothing short of sexy.

Here is my build for Rogue
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihxb0xZGcZE0ecc0oc

With this build all you gotta do is cloak and then hit a mage or warlock behind with ambush and then another backstab and they are pretty much dead, after that hit vanish, rinse and repeat. The thing i like about this is that you have preperation just in case you need another to make sure the person is dead. You have to be fast though before anyone finds out and puts some dots on you lol. I can kill players right next to their group without them even knowing cause ill be gone before they know it :) I love rogues!

Use that build and you'll be one of the first 3 on the list after a game, always worked for me.

Demo video of how it works.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KwZ5IcdfiLY

I don't mean to be offensive here, but your playstyle on the rogue is very elementary. You're basically crit praying with ambushes and backstabs, and if those don't kill the person (which they won't on anything with more armor than a clothy) then you're screwed. Not to mention that any mage or warlock that's worth his salt is going to have you CC'd the second after your ambush lands.

The rogue class isn't about a lot of big numbers really fast, it's all about control. The rogue has to be in control of the fight at all times or he has already lost. Hemo/CloS stunlock is far and away the best build right now. It offers the best fight control and survivability possible, while still providing high, consistent DPS that is not reliant upon yellow crits. I won't bother going into the logistics of how it's played, but here's a good video that will demonstrate the power of the build. It is nothing but 1v2's in the arena.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=475165307372055011&q=Mortgasm

[slick]

I understand that. I have been playing the game since launch also and Pallies in AV or world PVE distroye everything. Locks in AV and PVE are easy. They are class cannons. I have two buddies that have tier two locks and a partial tier 3 locks who are good PVPers and they laugh at the idea that affliction is that great.

You aren't playing the same 2.0 patch that everyone else is I guess. Affliction is so grossly over powered that it isn't even funny. 5 dots, instant AoE CC, and drain tanking are imba.

And since when are they glass cannons? They have multiple CC's (depending on the pet), not to mention health stones on top of pots and tubers (and soul stones in world PvP). Soul Link only makes matters that much worse.

I as a rogue wont go near locks because they are way over powered. That being said I can distroye a lock in PVE. Once I get the jump on him, he is dead.

Warlocks go down easy now that we have CloS. WotF/Trinkets stop fear, CloS eats DC.

[Tork64]

I don't mean to be offensive here, but your playstyle on the rogue is very elementary.


Thank you, I try :P. elementary or not this build works great for me, especially in AB.

[vampireuk]

And I'm not gonna try to convince you. All I can say is paladins are one of the easiest classes to defeat for me, second only to warriors(which are a joke btw).

So with that, I'll stop derailing the thread.

Back in the good old days before they nerfed the hell out of warriors, my warrior would destroy warlocks damnit. :p

[Phyre]

Barleystout

lvl 60 Dwarf Rogue on Earthen Ring

http://ctprofiles.net/3009505

Phyre

[DaveChambers]

Valsu - 60 Human Shadowpriest <-- Ex Grand Marshal
Trashbag - 60 Human Paladin <--BWL/AQ Gear
Luxx - 60 Human Rogue <-- Noob
Hulky - 51 Orc Shaman <-- My latest love

I think I have a character of every class above 40 also (nana2)

[lIqUID]

The rogue class isn't about a lot of big numbers really fast, it's all about control. The rogue has to be in control of the fight at all times or he has already lost. Hemo/CloS stunlock is far and away the best build right now. It offers the best fight control and survivability possible, while still providing high, consistent DPS that is not reliant upon yellow crits.

this is it EXACTLY! I went from an assasination build to a combat daggers, and now finally Hemo/CloS build with the HWL weapons, epic pvp set. I destroy all caster classes easily, and not having to rely on being behind someone to do decent damage is a big plus for the rest of the classes. The only class that does give me trouble some time is a hemo spec rogue same as myself heh, but thats a matter of who gets the opener.

In AB a couple days ago I was the only player guarding mines, and three warriors roll up from stables. One would think "well Im screwed" I had the one trying to cap the flag dead before the other 2 had a clue, then I kited them around nearly having the second one dead right when the game ended. Im not trying to brag, but all three would have been dead had the game not ended.

We are the reason you see nerf rogue threads. A hemo/CloS rogue is the true God of WOW PVP.

[Arioch]

Meliadus, lvl 60 NE hunter - now retired and living comfortably in an undisclosed location with his Winterspring Frostsaber mount doing rodeo tricks for kids.

Arioch, lvl 60 Undead priest - retired to a beach community playing golf.

[DaveChambers]

this is it EXACTLY! I went from an assasination build to a combat daggers, and now finally Hemo/CloS build with the HWL weapons, epic pvp set. I destroy all caster classes easily, and not having to rely on being behind someone to do decent damage is a big plus for the rest of the classes. The only class that does give me trouble some time is a hemo spec rogue same as myself heh, but thats a matter of who gets the opener.

In AB a couple days ago I was the only player guarding mines, and three warriors roll up from stables. One would think "well Im screwed" I had the one trying to cap the flag dead before the other 2 had a clue, then I kited them around nearly having the second one dead right when the game ended. Im not trying to brag, but all three would have been dead had the game not ended.

We are the reason you see nerf rogue threads. A hemo/CloS rogue is the true God of WOW PVP.

While I agree that Hemo rogues are very deadly, Shadowpriests, Warlocks > Rogues for PvP.

[WeReWoLf]

Werewolph - 60 Warrior. Only character i've ever gotten past lvl 22, created him Day 1, the moment the servers came online. I live on windrunner.

At the moment i'm hoping nothing too drastic is going on, because my account was hacked. My war is decked out in close to the best DPS gear a warrior can get, and i don't wanna lose that.

[slick]

While I agree that Hemo rogues are very deadly, Shadowpriests, Warlocks > Rogues for PvP.

There's isn't a warlock that I don't step all over right now. Succy fights can be rough every now and then, but that just makes it challenging.

Shadowpriests are even easier. Not only do I have an inherent fear break, I can CloS out the second time, if there even is one (and even a third after prep ><). They have zero CC.

My biggest problem is well geared feral druids. 6-7k HP and 10k armor while still doing hardcore DPS on leather is not cool. At least now I can CloS out of FFF and vanish. If vanish isn't up and they get the jump it's GG.

[lIqUID]

While I agree that Hemo rogues are very deadly, Shadowpriests, Warlocks > Rogues for PvP.

any caster class is a joke to a CLoS rogue with prep.

[DaveChambers]

any caster class is a joke to a CLoS rogue with prep.

I disagree, I still think a good shadowpreist can beat any CLoS rogue. Its actually very simple; your going to have martyrdom as a shadowpriest, just drop shadowform, spam 1-2 flash heals while the rogue is immune to spells (save fear for after CLoS), then redot/dps. Then again, I may be a bit spoiled with 5652HP as a shadowpreist. Stuns can be easily trinketed out of, and theres always depserate prayer, provided theyre dwarf/human.

[lIqUID]

prep, prep, prep. I'm telling you, I've been CLoS/Hemo for several weeks now, and no caster has beaten me in a 1v1 fight since. I just stumble a bit on pallies, and well geared assassination build rogues, but they only show up for fights every 3 minutes, heh. The only time I ever have to stun a caster is the initial CS, which is opened up with 2 points from premed, so basically you'll start the fight at 50% or less HP from a 5 point evis if it crits(2400-2900dmg are my crits on cloth)

[DaveChambers]

prep, prep, prep. I'm telling you, I've been CLoS/Hemo for several weeks now, and no caster has beaten me in a 1v1 fight since. I just stumble a bit on pallies, and well geared assassination build rogues, but they only show up for fights every 3 minutes, heh. The only time I ever have to stun a caster is the initial CS, which is opened up with 2 points from premed, so basically you'll start the fight at 50% or less HP from a 5 point evis if it crits(2400-2900dmg are my crits on cloth)

Prep builds are very fun, thats how I currently have my rogue spec'd. But debates like this are almost pointless. It all comes down to who's sitting behind the character, and how much time they've put into the game (gear, understanding of game mechanics, etc). But I what I especially enjoy about shadowpriests is their high melee damage reduction. I think my priest sits at just under 51%. On top of that, and the 5600+ HP, theres also 2 shields for the rogue and warriors (poor guys, dont get any rage from the shield :() to eat through, putting my theoretical health total for a 30 second fight just a hair under 8k.

I agree with you, paladins can either be cake for a rogue, or an absolute nightmare. I recently spec'd my paladin to 41/10/0 (holy/prot build) and I believe that to be the ultimate PvP healer spec. I've had Naxx/AQ40 geared rogues burn every cooldown twice, and still never get me passed 60% health. Of course, good gear can make up for a lot of missing skill, but when you combine the both, you have an absolute PvP machine, regardless of class.

[UDawg]

I hate dueling. I love team work PVP. World PVP is my favorite.

[DaveChambers]

I hate dueling. I love team work PVP. World PVP is my favorite.

Duels are pretty uneven, most of the time people will only open duels with people they know or think they can beat. I've sat out in front of IF for hours and never had a duel opened, but as soon as I log on to a 60 with a little less gear, everyone tries to duel ya. Its pretty funny :)

I always love premades for PvP, I wont even attempt it without one. But from what Ive come to see, to win WSG you need geared players who have some basic idea of how to PvP; however, AB is a different story completely. You can have a team full of people in their PvP blue set, and they can absolutely dominate. After spending my first two years as alliance, I grew to hate AB. Getting 5 capped 8/10 games by mostly pugs just wasnt fun. However, the second I was high enough for AB on my Shaman, its all I wanted to do. It just seems the the overall teamwork of the horde is much better than alliance. Maybe its because every 12 year old decides they have to be a nightelf, and in the end, it does end up hurting the faction :p

[UDawg]

Duels are pretty uneven, most of the time people will only open duels with people they know or think they can beat. I've sat out in front of IF for hours and never had a duel opened, but as soon as I log on to a 60 with a little less gear, everyone tries to duel ya. Its pretty funny :)

I always love premades for PvP, I wont even attempt it without one. But from what Ive come to see, to win WSG you need geared players who have some basic idea of how to PvP; however, AB is a different story completely. You can have a team full of people in their PvP blue set, and they can absolutely dominate. After spending my first two years as alliance, I grew to hate AB. Getting 5 capped 8/10 games by mostly pugs just wasnt fun. However, the second I was high enough for AB on my Shaman, its all I wanted to do. It just seems the the overall teamwork of the horde is much better than alliance. Maybe its because every 12 year old decides they have to be a nightelf, and in the end, it does end up hurting the faction :p

That is why I love the Horde. My 29 undead priest Snots from Elune was HATED and I loved that.

I am not good at dueling at all, yet you get me in world PVP and I can take down 3 or 4 alliance easily. It is all about patients.

Here is my biggest pet peeve in Wow, JUMPING! I hate it when people PVP and jump around, espeically mages. They do the same damn movements. It is a wasted movement IMO. They say it messes the other person up. Uhh, no it doesn't, auto attack buddy. You can run around making them mess up their casting with out jumping. I guess the reason why I hate it so much is because it is envogue. People do it because they want to be cool.

[DaveChambers]

That is why I love the Horde. My 29 undead priest Snots from Elune was HATED and I loved that.

I am not good at dueling at all, yet you get me in world PVP and I can take down 3 or 4 alliance easily. It is all about patients.

Here is my biggest pet peeve in Wow, JUMPING! I hate it when people PVP and jump around, espeically mages. They do the same damn movements. It is a wasted movement IMO. They say it messes the other person up. Uhh, no it doesn't, auto attack buddy. You can run around making them mess up their casting with out jumping. I guess the reason why I hate it so much is because it is envogue. People do it because they want to be cool.

Its funny you should say that; I introduced a few friends of mine in real life to WoW, and everytime I come help them get started they'll ask, "Why do you jump everywhere". I've tried to stop and I'll go a few minutes, then just realize I'm jumping everywhere again. I guess it just became a habit after running around so much :)

[UDawg]

Its funny you should say that; I introduced a few friends of mine in real life to WoW, and everytime I come help them get started they'll ask, "Why do you jump everywhere". I've tried to stop and I'll go a few minutes, then just realize I'm jumping everywhere again. I guess it just became a habit after running around so much :)
Oh I jump every where when going in the world. I just hate it when people do it while pvping. LOL! My buddies on vent make fun of me cuz of this hatred ot pvp jumpers. I go after them with a passion. :D