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buffbiff21
01-01-07, 11:35 PM
OK I am in the market to buy a new monitor, I have an old 20.1 inch Viewsonic that has some dead pixels... and its kinda old.

I like how the 24 inch Dell has slightly wider resolution, but the 30 inch one is... 30 inches!

Obviously the 24 inch is cheaper, and Im thinking it is the better choice also because of the 30 inch's ghosting...

HeavyH20
01-01-07, 11:44 PM
I have the 2405 and the 3007, and once you have the 30 inch real estate to use, it is really hard to go back to the 24 inch. But, it is also feasible, for the price of a 3007 to get two 2407 monitors. I prefer one monitor since I mainly use it for gaming.

But, to be honest, wait a bit for the 27 inch Dell they will be releasing. Looks like a nice monitor and it will be priced very aggressively. This will be the niche player for Dell in the HD gaming space.

SH0DAN
01-01-07, 11:46 PM
OK I am in the market to buy a new monitor, I have an old 20.1 inch Viewsonic that has some dead pixels... and its kinda old.

I like how the 24 inch Dell has slightly wider resolution, but the 30 inch one is... 30 inches!

Obviously the 24 inch is cheaper, and Im thinking it is the better choice also because of the 30 inch's ghosting...


I was going to get a Samsung 225bw or wait for the 22" from LG in Febuary, but have decided to save an extra 250,and grab the 2407,It cant be beat for the price (699 Cdn to 799) without using coupons and such....I personally think the 3007 is too big for gaming,as I like to sit within 2 feet of the screen,and I dont want to have to go SLI just for a LCD upgrade,as I am sure my GTS will handle the 2407,if it cant in the odd game,I will just change res down to 1680x1050.

H20,when is the 27" hitting retail ?

HeavyH20
01-01-07, 11:55 PM
The 27 inch will be released this month. So, not long at all. I did see a picture of the monitor. Not sure where, however. I will see if I can dig it up. But, it will make use of the new Samsung 27 inch LCD panel and will have features like the 2407 but will also have composite in for LCD TV use.

So, if you are looking at the 2407, the price may drop some as this one moves into the sector between the 24 and 30 inch. The brushed aluminum looks nice.


EDIT: Found the picture:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6042/3436large2707wfpconnectfd7.jpg

superklye
01-02-07, 12:00 AM
I haven't noticed any ghosting whatsoever with my 3007WFP. It has been an amazing monitor to experience these few short days I've owned it so far and I know I can never, ever go back to something smaller. The 2407 is going to be, for all intents and purposes, the exact same size as your current monitor, at least in terms of its height. Sure, it's 320px wider (I assume your 20" is UXGA)...but that's just not a huge difference in my eyes.

However, there ARE drawbacks to the 3007WFP (besides price and size if you have space constraints)...for instance, the only input is a DVI-D DL. The 2407 has DVI-D and component (and possibly more...I don't remember off the top of my head). But...that shortcoming aside, I can't recommend the 3007WFP highly enough. This monitor is incredible.

stncttr908
01-02-07, 01:02 AM
The problem with the 3007 in my book is you're locked into buying the latest and greatest as soon as it comes out if you want to be able to game at its native resolution.

SH0DAN
01-02-07, 01:08 AM
Thanks for the feedback H20,and superkyle :) I was at BB last week,and thought the 22" Samsung is noticeably bigger then my 2005FPW...imo (Its 1680x1050 default res) the Samsung was next to a 20" WS LG in silver.The price is right,at 399 Cdn + tax.

But what really blew me away,and got me wanting a 22" or 24" was seeing the 20" LG next to a Gateway FPD2485,both running AOE3.The computers they were hooked upto had a 7900GS in it,so it kept the game at a very reasonable framerate.908,I agree,as I dont want to be locked in to always having to buy SLI or the top of the line GPU to drive the screen.I do hope the 27" Dell drives down the $ on the 24" a tad more,but if it doesnt...oh well,I'll have to bite the 700 to 800 dollar bullet.

jAkUp
01-02-07, 01:34 AM
I dunno about the 30"... 2560x1600 w/ AA for the latest games is pretty demanding.

HeavyH20
01-02-07, 05:41 AM
Well, have to agree with slaWter. Gaming on the 30 inch is definitely something to behold. The dot pitch is microscopic so everything looks so sharp and clean. Of course, the latest SLI cards are a must, but, if you can afford it, the results are absolutely stunning.

A very close second is a 1920x1200 capable monitor. A little less demanding on the video card requirements and the pocket book as well and almost as impressive. Not a bad second best, at all. And, since the 27 inch is the same res as the 24, I suspect the 24 will have a sharper, crisper look to it. The 27 may appear a little more grainy with the larger dot pitch.

ViN86
01-02-07, 09:32 AM
go for the 2407. good resolution (my 7800gtx handles my games fine, but i play some older titles) and it has a lot of features. i play my 360 on it and plan to watch HDTV on it :D

superklye
01-02-07, 09:40 AM
The 27 inch will be released this month. So, not long at all. I did see a picture of the monitor. Not sure where, however. I will see if I can dig it up. But, it will make use of the new Samsung 27 inch LCD panel and will have features like the 2407 but will also have composite in for LCD TV use.

So, if you are looking at the 2407, the price may drop some as this one moves into the sector between the 24 and 30 inch. The brushed aluminum looks nice.


EDIT: Found the picture:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6042/3436large2707wfpconnectfd7.jpg
Do you know what the resolution on the 2707 is going to be? 1920x1200? Or something like 2320x1450?

Marvel_us
01-02-07, 09:46 AM
Unless you can afford SLI with top gen GPUs, go for the 2407.

Shocky
01-02-07, 09:46 AM
It depends how sensitive you are to ghosting, I can pick on ghosting pretty quickly on 2ms panel and very much so on my 2407WFP so would'nt touch anything with a higher responce time with a 30ft pole so obviously would never consider a 3007WFP.

ViN86
01-02-07, 10:30 AM
It depends how sensitive you are to ghosting, I can pick on ghosting pretty quickly on 2ms panel and very much so on my 2407WFP so would'nt touch anything with a higher responce time with a 30ft pole so obviously would never consider a 3007WFP.
i cant pick ghosting on my 2407...

superklye
01-02-07, 10:36 AM
i cant pick ghosting on my 2407...
Yeah, I can't on my 3007 at all. My dad just got a 32" LCD HDTV on Black Friday and I can see terrible ghosting on that, but not a lick of it on the Dell.

I also can't tell a difference in smoothness between 40FPS and 60FPS, so to each their own I guess... :)

*hugs his 3007WFP*

Shocky
01-02-07, 10:36 AM
i cant pick ghosting on my 2407...

Then I envy you Sir, it sucks being sensitive to ghosting.. Would make things allot easier if I couldn’t see it.

buffbiff21
01-02-07, 02:49 PM
Well all of you have certainly made valid points.

The 27 does not make sense to me, because it is the same resolution as the 24.

the 30 WOULD require GFX power with new games and graphisc.


I think im gonna buy a 24... it is currently winning by 1 vote anyway. :)

john19055
01-02-07, 03:21 PM
If money is no problem then I would go with the 30 inch,just because of it's size ,sure you will need a good graphic card but if you are going to get a 30inch ,then you would want the best graphic card.

BlackSun
01-12-07, 12:53 PM
Isn't there a new 30 inch coming too???

superklye
01-12-07, 02:10 PM
Isn't there a new 30 inch coming too???
Indeed there is. Wait for it to come out before making a purchase.

Uberpwnage
01-12-07, 03:21 PM
The 2707 is absolutely pointless, it will look worse then the 2407 because the pixels are larger. I cant imagine why anyone would buy it. Also, the 3007 is cheaper then the 2707 atm.

On Dell's page, the 2707 is listed at $1399, whereas the 3007 is $1274.

As for the 2407, I love mine, and its nice knowing I don't need SLI to play at native res. The price is great right now too, only $674.

But clearly, If I had $1300-$1400 to spend on a Monitor, I wouldn't let the 3007's 2560x1600 intimidate me, I would buy it over the 2707 and worry about the graphics power later.

Tyr-Sog
01-13-07, 06:49 PM
The 27" has 92 color gamut(sp?) vs 2407 is 75(72 maybe?) for whatever that is worth

Tyr-Sog
01-13-07, 06:51 PM
But clearly, If I had $1300-$1400 to spend on a Monitor, I wouldn't let the 3007's 2560x1600 intimidate me, I would buy it over the 2707 and worry about the graphics power later.

I agree. Monitor is pretty much your longest term upgrade on a pc. You could build a few pc's over the coarse of havung that 30"

Saying that. IMO 30" would have been to big for my set up. I sit tops 24" away from the monitoe and I would'nt want to have to look all around the screen while gaming. The 24" I have to just a bit and that's enough.

Bman212121
01-14-07, 01:37 PM
I agree. Monitor is pretty much your longest term upgrade on a pc. You could build a few pc's over the coarse of havung that 30"

Saying that. IMO 30" would have been to big for my set up. I sit tops 24" away from the monitoe and I would'nt want to have to look all around the screen while gaming. The 24" I have to just a bit and that's enough.

I can't imagine sitting in front of a 30" monitor to game. I was a little leary of picking up the 2407 for that reason as well. There is more than enough real estate on this monitor, and games look incredible at 1920 x 1200 with AA and AF. I definitely wouldn't go bigger than this, as it wouldn't bother me at all if it were an inch or two smaller. You can easily get 2 full pages in an a word document side by side. Also, since I'm blind, (not literally, but sometimes I think so) I had to make the font on my icons a little bigger for me to read them.

This monitor has a very sharp and clear image on it, so that does to wonders for it. If you have the room and don't mind spending the extra $$$, the 30 won't disappoint I'm sure, but it's just really really damn big for a computer monitor.

BlackSun
01-14-07, 02:40 PM
Samsung 275T is a new 27 from Samsung and has the 92 color gamut and also has a 3000:1 contrast ratio. May be worth looking into.