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jAkUp
03-06-03, 06:07 PM
GeForce FX 5200
Chip: NV34, .15um
Pipelines: 4x1
Core/Memory Speeds: 250/200 DDR-I (400MHz effective)
RAMDAC: 350MHz
API Compliancy: DirectX9 / OpenGL1.4
http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/nv3x/5200/1.jpg


GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
Chip: NV34, .15um
Pipelines: 4x1
Core/Memory Speeds: 325/325 DDR-I (650MHz effective)
RAMDAC: 350MHz
API Compliancy: DirectX9 / OpenGL1.4
http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/nv3x/5200u/1.jpg


GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
Chip: NV31, .13um
Pipelines: 4x1
Core/Memory Speeds: 350/350 DDR-I (700MHz effective)
Compression: Z + Colour
RAMDAC: 400MHz
API Compliancy: DirectX9 / OpenGL1.4
http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/nvidia/nv3x/5600u/1.jpg

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=4719&forum=9

notice the 5200 only has a heatsink!!! yipes

Sazar
03-06-03, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by jAkUp
[notice the 5200 only has a heatsink!!! yipes

they all only have heatsinks :D

yah... it only has a passive heatsink :)

yer right... it should be a true budget card... perhaps 79-100 dollar market ?

killermmn
03-06-03, 09:43 PM
i think i buy a 5600 ultra!!!!!
maybe a chaintech!!!;)

GlowStick
03-06-03, 09:52 PM
Whats up with the shape of the ram?

All new high end cards have square ram, while older and low end cards have rectange ram!

PreservedSwine
03-06-03, 10:16 PM
From Tom's
At the beginning of next week, we'll already be able to tell you more about the FX 5600 Ultra and the FX 5200 Ultra and give you a full report of the tests. Until then, NVIDIA has placed an embargo on benchmarking.

However, we can already give you some of our first impressions about the performance of the new cards. In the standard tests without FSAA and anitotropic filtering, the FX 5600 Ultra seems to be just about the same or slower than a GeForce 4 Ti 4200 8x and Radeon 9500 PRO. This might be due to the reduced pixel pipelines (4x1 alias 2x2 (NV31) as opposed to 4x2 in NV25). With 4xFSAA, it appears to reach nearly double the performance of the 4200, beating a 4800 as well, but it loses out to the Radeon 9500 PRO. It's a similar picture with the anisotropic filtering. In the pixel shader tests from 3D Mark 2001, it beats the 4200/2800, but loses in the vertex shader tests. In both tests, it clearly loses to the Radeon 9500 PRO.

The FX 5200 Ultra is quite a bit slower than the 5600 Ultra in the standard tests. In anti-aliasing, it's just a tad behing the Ti 4200. It's the same with anisotropic filtering - at least in Balanced mode. In Performance mode, it even manages to beat the 4800.

We'll have more for you on this in a few days, including extensive benchmark tables. But this much can be said for now: the FX 5600 and 5200 cards won't have an easy time against the new ATI products.


http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/200303061/geforcefx-5600-5200-02.html

Dazz
03-07-03, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by GlowStick
Whats up with the shape of the ram?

All new high end cards have square ram, while older and low end cards have rectange ram!
TSOP I believe is the rectangle Memory and canís run to high or overclock that high as well as being hotter, it's cheap and old tech. BGA is the square memory and runs cooler and can run at faster speeds as well as being a better overclocker.

Dazz
03-07-03, 03:36 AM
Ooooh thatís getting me worried abit now PreservedSwine if it is as fast as the Radeon 9500 PRO then I don't really think it will justified and upgrade from a Ti4400 to that.

Gator
03-07-03, 06:17 AM
that 5600 looks nice :) but why the hell does it only have 4 pipelines? :( Any word on price for the 5600? :confused:

shortys31
03-07-03, 06:32 AM
source: www.tomshardware.com


GeForce FX 5600 Ultra - (350/350 MHz); Estimated price: $199.
GeForce FX 5600 - (?/?); Estimated price: $179.

GeForce FX 5200 Ultra - (325/325 MHz); Estimated price: $149.
GeForce FX 5200 - (?/?); Estimated price: $99.

Uttar
03-07-03, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by shortys31
source: www.tomshardware.com


GeForce FX 5600 Ultra - (350/350 MHz); Estimated price: $199.
GeForce FX 5600 - (?/?); Estimated price: $179.

GeForce FX 5200 Ultra - (325/325 MHz); Estimated price: $149.
GeForce FX 5200 - (?/?); Estimated price: $99.

And to be even more precise:

GeForce FX 5600 Ultra - (350/350 MHz); Estimated price: $199.
GeForce FX 5600 - (350/275 Mhz); Estimated price: $179.

GeForce FX 5200 Ultra - (325/325 MHz); Estimated price: $149.
GeForce FX 5200 - (250/200Mhz); Estimated price: $99.
GeForce FX 5200 - (250/166Mhz); Estimated price: $79. ( nVidia ain't announcing it, but you can be sure some manufacturers such as ASUS are gonna use that one. OEMs will certainly love it, too )


Uttar

Dazz
03-07-03, 06:47 AM
I heard people say the Geforce FX 5200~5600 range have 2x2 pipelines not 4x1.

Uttar
03-07-03, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by Dazz
I heard people say the Geforce FX 5200~5600 range have 2x2 pipelines not 4x1.

Both FX 5200 & FX 5600 are true 4x1.


Uttar

Onde Pik
03-07-03, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Gator
that 5600 looks nice :)

Well u can get a R9500P at $176 so it seems they are gonna be exactly the same price. And it clearly loses to the R9500 with AA/AF/PS, and is about as fast without. Also I think we can expect the IQ to be no better than 5800U.

Id rather buy the Radeon ;) And we havent yet seen RV350 in action.


The 5200U looks like it is gonna be around R9500 in both price and speed. Hard to judge tho.

The cheapest cards looks like the most interesting to me since ATI doesnt have any DX9 parts down in that price range. And the cards they do have are pretty lousy at AA/AF (asuming the 5200 is not )

Onde Pik
03-07-03, 07:10 AM
One other thing. Interresting to see that Nvidia had to remove half the pipelines to get their .15 version to run as fast as R9700P.

Really does put into perspective what a extremely good piece of work ATI did with that card.

PreservedSwine
03-07-03, 07:12 AM
Just wait unti the R9600PRO benches come in.....that's the aimed taget to the FX5600...... If the R9500 PRO already outperforms the FX5600.....I'm guessing the R9600PRO will sned it realing.....just a guess, of course, as you never know until it comes out....

shortys31
03-07-03, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Onde Pik
Well u can get a R9500P at $176 so it seems they are gonna be exactly the same price. And it clearly loses to the R9500 with AA/AF/PS, and is about as fast without. Also I think we can expect the IQ to be no better than 5800U.

Id rather buy the Radeon ;) And we havent yet seen RV350 in action.


The 5200U looks like it is gonna be around R9500 in both price and speed. Hard to judge tho.

The cheapest cards looks like the most interesting to me since ATI doesnt have any DX9 parts down in that price range. And the cards they do have are pretty lousy at AA/AF (asuming the 5200 is not )


caugh *ATI fanboy* caugh

Uttar
03-07-03, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by PreservedSwine
Just wait unti the R9600PRO benches come in.....that's the aimed taget to the FX5600...... If the R9500 PRO already outperforms the FX5600.....I'm guessing the R9600PRO will sned it realing.....just a guess, of course, as you never know until it comes out....

This is not correct.
The 9600 PRO is not consistently faster than a 9500 PRO.

The 9600 PRO got a lower fillrate & VS power than a 9500 PRO
But it got more bandwidth, and more efficient FSAA techniques.

My guess is that the R9600P will beat the FX5600U, possibly quite importantly in specific cases, but overall I'd guess the R9600P wouldn't "sned it realing" or "crush it" or anything like that.


Uttar

erwos
03-07-03, 08:28 AM
Thanks, nVidia - now I've gotta wait for an nForce board that's got _that_ onboard! *holds breath for SN42G2, turns blue, stops*

But, seriously: the GFFX5200 has the potential to be as revolutionizing to the gaming industry as the GF2MX was. The GF2MX was not the fastest card ever, didn't really have incredible features, but dammit, it was an amazing value for the money. You could get DX7 compatibility when it was released for only $100, which at that point was just a great bargain.

For $80 MSRP, and you can imagine the street price will be even lower, there's zero reason that every semi-serious gamer can't have a 5200. With the influx of cheap DX9 capabilities, developers can finally start shooting at a higher target.

So, yes, the 5200 might not be blowing everyone away, but the value proposition is just mind-boggling. Like I wrote at the beginning of the post, if this makes it into nForce3, it will legitamize onboard video in a way no one's seen before.

IMHO, nVidia has redeemed itself.

-Erwos

1stFlight
03-07-03, 08:38 AM
The Real Test of course will be when Doom ]I[ comes out, screw the synthetic benchmarks, give me game play!!

MuFu
03-07-03, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by shortys31
caugh *ATI fanboy* caugh

Are you posh? :D

I must admit that the NV34 & NV31 look a lot better now than they did a couple of months ago. Lots of sacrifices/painful decisions made recently though. They're going to be taking it hard in the a$$ until NV36 & NV35 come out. Hopefully they will have more sensible configurations and not be the horrible result of decisions made on the back foot.

MuFu.

Dazz
03-07-03, 08:49 AM
The Radeon 9600Pro does have an advantage, it is OpenGL 2.0 compliant. I myself would pick OpenGL over DirectX anyday :)

shortys31
03-07-03, 08:56 AM
open gl's graphics suck

PreservedSwine
03-07-03, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Uttar
This is not correct.
The 9600 PRO is not consistently faster than a 9500 PRO.

... but overall I'd guess the R9600P wouldn't "sned it realing" or "crush it" or anything like that.


Uttar

hehe, yeah, always get a laugh out of a video card "crushing" another one;)

Thanks for the insight:)

jAkUp
03-07-03, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by shortys31
open gl's graphics suck

ummm... doom3??

Dazz
03-07-03, 09:39 AM
OpenGL runs a hell of a lot smoother then buggy M$ Direct X!!
It's one of the reasons i pick nVidia Cards over ATi and thats due to ATi cards lacking strong OpenGL drivers :o