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911medic
01-04-07, 04:49 PM
OK, what do you think? Current specs are in my sig.

What I'll be keeping:
Keyboard/Mouse
Antec SX1040BII case
TDK VeloCD 40/12/48 CDRW drive (PATA)
Altec-Lansing ATP3 speakers (might be replaced, but not right away)
WD Raptor 74GB SATA
WD Caviar 80GB PATA
New Parts:
Core 2 Duo E6300 cpu
Asus P5B-E mobo (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131070) (P965 chipset)
Antec TruPower Trio (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817371002) 550W PSU
Lite-On SH-16A7S-06 DVD RW (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827106046)(SATA)
8800GTS (brand TBD, but maybe this eVGA one (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130071))
2x1GB DDR2 800--Open to suggestions, but considering this GSkill 4-4-4-12 set (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820231087); I've heard the P965 boards can be picky WRT RAM
Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835106080) CPU HSF
Samsung 225BW (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16824001083) 22" widescreen LCD
Windows XP MCE (with free upgrade coupon to Vista Home Premium)


I'm looking to OC the CPU and possibly memory (tho I'm not to sure how to do this w/an Intel system, so let me know if I need different memory or any tips you may have). I don't have the budget or desire for SLI at this time.

Any suggestions/comments are welcome!

Roadhog
01-04-07, 04:54 PM
looks great! But go for a different power supply.

RussianHAXOR
01-04-07, 05:07 PM
Why? It should be PLENTY. its just one card... and the CPU is pretty low volted. I suggest getting a ZALMAN 9500LED if you can.

Stoneyguy
01-04-07, 05:20 PM
You may want to consider getting the 6400 if you plan to overclock. There is only one difference between the 6300 and 6400, the 6400 is graded better. This should allow for a higher overclock. Granted there are exceptions for this, but to stay on the safe side I personally went with the 6400. The 6400 paired with a 9700 allowed me to OC to 3 gig with no problem. I would try to go higher, but with the temps hovering around that 60 degree ceiling I'll stay where I'm at.

Also stay away from the NeoHC power supply from Antec if your using an ASUS mobo. Stay with the TruPower you have selected.

I would go with the Samsung 18x Lightscribe DVD burner. It's also SATA and it's only 5 bucks more (though it's OEM).

Oh well those are my suggestions. Best of luck with your new build!

Roadhog
01-04-07, 05:51 PM
Why? It should be PLENTY. its just one card... and the CPU is pretty low volted. I suggest getting a ZALMAN 9500LED if you can.

We all know that Asus Boards and Antec Power supplies are hit and miss with them working together.

SH0DAN
01-04-07, 05:53 PM
Wait until the 20th or so,as Intel is releasing what may likely be the next 300a/1.6a/2.4c....The E4300

http://www.overclockers.com/tips01071/ :D

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103

It'll be cheap and oc like a mofo...As for power supplies,that Antec Power Supply isnt bad,but I would go Corsair,or Seasonic,or Silverstone,in that exact order.For ram Gskill or OCZ.I like that mobo choice,if not that,get a Gigabyte p965-DS3 2.0 or a Asus P5N-E SLI,both low priced,and great overclockers.Thats a great LCD,but make sure you buy it from someplace with a liberal return policy,as it is known to have minor to medium back light issues (most lcds do,but this one is hit or miss.) Good luck with the system :)

911medic
01-05-07, 07:52 AM
We all know that Asus Boards and Antec Power supplies are hit and miss with them working together.Well, I didn't! Any linkage? This is the first I've heard of this.

Toss3
01-05-07, 08:53 AM
Why no SLi support when you can get a 650i mobo fairly cheap? :) The p5be SLi should be more future-proof than the regular p5b-e. The price difference isn't all that big and I don't think a single 8800gts will be able to handle Crysis at 1680x1050 with decent settings.(The funny part is that the p5b-e sli is actually cheaper than the p5b-e here in Europe!:D)

911medic
01-05-07, 10:19 AM
Why? It should be PLENTY. its just one card... and the CPU is pretty low volted. I suggest getting a ZALMAN 9500LED if you can.From the reviews I've read, the TT Big Typhoon performs nearly identically, and is quieter. It also cools the motherboard components better, since the fan blows down onto the board. I'm a big fan of Zalman coolers (I've been quite happy w/my CNPS7000), but the Typhoon appears to outperform it, for less $$$.

911medic
01-05-07, 10:31 AM
Why no SLi support when you can get a 650i mobo fairly cheap? :) The p5be SLi should be more future-proof than the regular p5b-e. The price difference isn't all that big and I don't think a single 8800gts will be able to handle Crysis at 1680x1050 with decent settings.(The funny part is that the p5b-e sli is actually cheaper than the p5b-e here in Europe!:D)Over here the 650 SLI Asus board is called the P5N-E, and is slightly cheaper than the P5B-E. Why not this board? Well, I haven't completely ruled it out, but here are several reasons:
I have a hard time believing I'm going to convince my wife I need 2 expensive graphics cards
The 650i SLI board is so new, I'm a bit hesitant until more reviews are in and any potential problems are revealed
The 680i issues make me a bit worried about the 650i, until proven otherwise
The 650i board consumes more power (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2894&p=6)/runs hotter than P965 boards, and has no stock cooling on the southbridge (not a huge deal, I have a cooler laying around I can put on it)
Like I said, I haven't ruled it out, but I'm playing a bit of wait-and-see with the 650i chipset.

911medic
01-05-07, 10:33 AM
You may want to consider getting the 6400 if you plan to overclock. There is only one difference between the 6300 and 6400, the 6400 is graded better. This should allow for a higher overclock. Granted there are exceptions for this, but to stay on the safe side I personally went with the 6400. The 6400 paired with a 9700 allowed me to OC to 3 gig with no problem. I would try to go higher, but with the temps hovering around that 60 degree ceiling I'll stay where I'm at.

Also stay away from the NeoHC power supply from Antec if your using an ASUS mobo. Stay with the TruPower you have selected.

I would go with the Samsung 18x Lightscribe DVD burner. It's also SATA and it's only 5 bucks more (though it's OEM).

Oh well those are my suggestions. Best of luck with your new build!Thanks for the suggestions. The E6300 overclocks I've been reading about would make me quite happy, but I'll keep the E6400 in mind. I'll take a look at that Samsung DVD burner, too.

911medic
01-05-07, 10:40 AM
Wait until the 20th or so,as Intel is releasing what may likely be the next 300a/1.6a/2.4c....The E4300

http://www.overclockers.com/tips01071/ :D

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103

It'll be cheap and oc like a mofo...As for power supplies,that Antec Power Supply isnt bad,but I would go Corsair,or Seasonic,or Silverstone,in that exact order.For ram Gskill or OCZ.I like that mobo choice,if not that,get a Gigabyte p965-DS3 2.0 or a Asus P5N-E SLI,both low priced,and great overclockers.Thats a great LCD,but make sure you buy it from someplace with a liberal return policy,as it is known to have minor to medium back light issues (most lcds do,but this one is hit or miss.) Good luck with the system :)Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for those new CPUs.

As for the Antec PSU, did you know it's made by Seasonic (see page 3 of this review (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article712-page1.html))? I chose the Antec because I've been extremely happy with my current TruePower 430W. When I have good luck w/something, I tend to stick with it. I don't know anything about the Corsair units. This Antec model pretty much maxes my budget I'd like to spend on a PSU, so if the Corsairs or others are more $$$, they're probably ruled out.

I am considering the P5N-E, but the jury's still out on it for now.

I've heard about those backlighting issues, and I'll definitely keep that in mind.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

john19055
01-05-07, 10:49 AM
I would get the ASUS 650i SLI motherboard because it is real good at overclocking and I would get the E6400 because of the higher multipler.

a12ctic
01-05-07, 12:54 PM
We all know that Asus Boards and Antec Power supplies are hit and miss with them working together.
yeah, this guy is right, but its not antecs fault, its that asus is ****, go for something from dfi, msi, abit, or epox.

Roadhog
01-05-07, 01:37 PM
yeah, this guy is right, but its not antecs fault, its that asus is ****, go for something from dfi, msi, abit, or epox.

no, its antecs fault, most of their power supplies lack a -5v rail.

a12ctic
01-05-07, 01:47 PM
no, its antecs fault, most of their power supplies lack a -5v rail.
well, i stand still, asus makes some ****ty products and they have low quality control, so I would stay away.

Roadhog
01-05-07, 01:50 PM
well, i stand still, asus makes some ****ty products and they have low quality control, so I would stay away.

Why do they make ****ty products? They usually have the best quality and best performing motherboards out there.

a12ctic
01-05-07, 02:15 PM
Why do they make ****ty products? They usually have the best quality and best performing motherboards out there.
Best performing? Really? DFI usualy out performs them by a long run, and they never have the most features.

Roadhog
01-05-07, 02:18 PM
Best performing? Really? DFI usualy out performs them by a long run, and they never have the most features.

Maybe 2 years ago, things have changed fanboi.

Apparently you haven't seen the striker extreme, that thing has more features then you can shake a stick at. Oh yah, and were is DFI's socket 775 board? I have yet to see it.

stevemedes
01-05-07, 04:19 PM
We all know that Asus Boards and Antec Power supplies are hit and miss with them working together.

I dunno man, I got Asus mobo and Antec PSU and everything is running beautifully.

911medic
01-05-07, 04:40 PM
no, its antecs fault, most of their power supplies lack a -5v rail.OK...I'm looking at some other PSU reviews, and I don't see -5V rails on any of them (the Seasonic S12 Energy Plus (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article656-page1.html), the Corsair HX520W & HX620W (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article692-page1.html)--which, like the Antec I'm considering, also appear to be made by Seasonic, and the Silverstone Element Plus (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article670-page1.html)--which is made by Enhance).

What PSUs have a -5v rail? This is the first I've heard of this issue.

Roadhog
01-05-07, 04:41 PM
I dunno man, I got Asus mobo and Antec PSU and everything is running beautifully.

Im not sure if its still the same now, but my old asus mobo wouldnt work with antec power supplies.

See here. It seems only the NEO line.

http://www.chaosmanorreviews.com/open_archives/jep_column-317-a.php
and..
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35573
and..
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article273-page5.html

911medic
01-05-07, 04:42 PM
Best performing? Really? DFI usualy out performs them by a long run, and they never have the most features.I'm not interested in all the bells and whistles. Features I'll never use are pointless.

I just want a stable board that will OC, and has the basic features I require.

SH0DAN
01-05-07, 06:57 PM
no, its antecs fault, most of their power supplies lack a -5v rail.


Its not really a problem,but can be with certain DFI boards.Back on the topic,that Trio is a good power supply,if you dont want modular cables (Which help with air flow in a case,and look great with a windowed case) which you dont.If you do go modular,look no further then Corsasir.Again that Trio is a good ps,that is pretty low on noise as well.

This one below you linked is not nearly mentioned enough,when 500 watters come up in discussion,it is damn good for the $$$.Checkout Johhny Guru's review as well.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article670-page1.html

911medic
01-07-07, 01:37 AM
Hmmm...Shodan, based on the links you provided, I'm seriously considering changing my choice to the Corsair HX520W. ZipZoomFly has it for $106.

Decisions, decisions....