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baldbrad
01-04-07, 07:31 PM
Ok so my friend has an older agp Mobo,he doesnt have the money for a whole new rig,i told him id do some searching for a good agp card.

I went to Tom's hardware and used the VGA chart that he has.

Only problem is that he has a 7800gs+ GSA 512mb listed.

the only 7800 gs agp card i could find is the 256mb one,do they make a 512 agp?or is Tom's just have a wrong one listed?

CrackatiCz
01-04-07, 07:52 PM
Google?

baldbrad
01-04-07, 09:00 PM
If you had read my whole post you would have see....

"the only 7800 gs agp card i could find is the 256mb one"

tom's list a 7800gs 512,i was just curious if any one had seen them or if it was a misprint on Tom's part.

I really love people who make posts that make themselves look like asses

Arioch
01-04-07, 09:12 PM
I believe the 512mb version is made by Gainward and has to be purchased from the UK or Europe.

SlieTheSecond
01-04-07, 09:15 PM
no offense but I googled it and the first page came up with the gainward 512 7800 gs agp. And the 7800+

SlieTheSecond
01-04-07, 09:15 PM
sry, double post

john19055
01-04-07, 09:20 PM
Gainward is the only company that I know that makes the 512mb version,
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=4D0C

baldbrad
01-04-07, 10:28 PM
i owe an aplogy to Crack,i guess i didnt enter the right words for it to come,wierd cuase i tried everthing.

Thank you for the link,i looked at it,boy do i want that card:)But im a complete noob about ordering over sea's.

is it even possible to get one shipped here?

I tried signing up for an acct,but i got to the Postcode part,put in zip code,well that didnt work.

Tried finding an e-mail address,but all i found on their site was adress's ending in .de.....

maybe i should just get the 1950 pro agp:(

If any one has ordered from them let me know how ya did it:)

CrackatiCz
01-04-07, 10:47 PM
lol =P

technoid
01-04-07, 10:59 PM
This might not be the best thing to say but right now the best AGP card is the ATI X1950PRO. I've been trying one out and it's definitely a great card. I think the reason it's the best AGP card is it has 36 shaders and just out does the 7800GS. I know this is an NVIDIA site but we have to give credit where credits due.

ONER
01-05-07, 12:59 AM
I have the 7800GS and it performs well. Best AGP card I have ever used. But then again I have read that the ATI 1950Pro will outperform it, it is also the latest AGP card to hit the market.

baldbrad
01-05-07, 08:45 AM
I did some research and im going with the 1950pro,to hard to get a gainward.

I found a gainward 7800gs on E-bay that went for 450.00.......screw that.

RDFmx3
01-05-07, 09:28 AM
This might not be the best thing to say but right now the best AGP card is the ATI X1950PRO. I've been trying one out and it's definitely a great card. I think the reason it's the best AGP card is it has 36 shaders and just out does the 7800GS. I know this is an NVIDIA site but we have to give credit where credits due.

Baldbrad, this is very good advice from techniod, I should know I've seen all his benchmarks he's been running. The X1950PRO will blow the 7800GS out of the water, well sort of anyway :-)

Him and I both are Nvidia guy's so this isn't anything against Nvida cards it's just the best advice we can give you for a AGP card at the moment.

stncttr908
01-05-07, 03:05 PM
I fully agree with the X1950 Pro suggestions. :thumbsup:

the wip
01-05-07, 07:10 PM
i have a 7800gs in my second machine and it is very good even only as the 256 version.3dmark 05=7500 with latest drivers.what do you get with ati?


E6600 conroe @3150-350x9,1x1gb giel800 @875,p5wdh deluxe mobo,160gb sata,80gb pata,alcu7700 zalman,xp sp2,nvidia gainward 8800gts @640/2000(RIVA TUNE TO UP FAN SPEED!!).


2---amd4200x2 @2750,2g Kingston ddr400,asus a8v mobo,320g pata,zalman 9500,xp sp2,nvidia p,o,v 7800gs 256 agp,coolermaster stacker 810.sb audigy.

baldbrad
01-05-07, 08:01 PM
Thank you for the advice,1950pro agp on its way from new egg as we speak:captnkill:

technoid
01-05-07, 10:01 PM
i have a 7800gs in my second machine and it is very good even only as the 256 version.3dmark 05=7500 with latest drivers.what do you get with ati?
I tend to go with game benchmarks more. Here's a couple of benchmarks I did comparing my 6800GT to the X1950PRO in my P4 3.4 GIG AGP machine. But I will say not all games did this well. It seems the X1950PRO really helps out with the new pixel shader intensive games. What CPU is in the machine you did the 3DMark05 test?

NEED FOR SPEED CARBON - FRAPS Recording

6800GT

2006-12-28 12:39:36 - NFSC QR1
Frames: 3624 - Time: 107048ms - Avg: 33.854 - Min: 27 - Max: 40

X1950PRO

2006-12-29 11:15:03 - NFSC QR1
Frames: 8162 - Time: 105975ms - Avg: 77.018 - Min: 58 - Max: 96

CALL OF DUTY 2 - Timedemo I Recorded

6800GT - 39.6 FPS
X1950PRO - 58.6 FPS

technoid
01-05-07, 10:04 PM
Thank you for the advice,1950pro agp on its way from new egg as we speak:captnkill:
Don't forget that the X1950PRO is one of the newest cores so it will need a good power supply to go with it. I say that just in case you run into problems for something to look at first. My system ran okay with my existing power supply but I've heard that others had to upgrade the power supply.

baldbrad
01-05-07, 10:13 PM
i got a seasonic m12 600w for x-mas,good to go there i think

the wip
01-06-07, 03:29 AM
I tend to go with game benchmarks more. Here's a couple of benchmarks I did comparing my 6800GT to the X1950PRO in my P4 3.4 GIG AGP machine. But I will say not all games did this well. It seems the X1950PRO really helps out with the new pixel shader intensive games. What CPU is in the machine you did the 3DMark05 test?

NEED FOR SPEED CARBON - FRAPS Recording

6800GT

2006-12-28 12:39:36 - NFSC QR1
Frames: 3624 - Time: 107048ms - Avg: 33.854 - Min: 27 - Max: 40

X1950PRO

2006-12-29 11:15:03 - NFSC QR1
Frames: 8162 - Time: 105975ms - Avg: 77.018 - Min: 58 - Max: 96

CALL OF DUTY 2 - Timedemo I Recorded

6800GT - 39.6 FPS
X1950PRO - 58.6 FPS



i put my specs in my prev post

RDFmx3
01-06-07, 11:26 AM
Thank you for the advice,1950pro agp on its way from new egg as we speak:captnkill:

Good deal, I think you'll be plenty happy with it. As you can see from technoid's benchmark's which I can assure you was done the same every time that card can make a big difference for you. For anyone that already has a 7800GS I wouldn't spend the money to buy this card, it's better but not so much as to buy a whole new card. Good luck with it, like I said I'm sure you'll be happy with it.

OH!....One last thing.
You'll need to download the 2.0 version of ( .NET framework ) from Microsoft and install it before installing your driver's, other wise the Control Panel
wont install or work. Once your done with all that you'll probably have to logon to your computer again instead of it just starting up as normal, unless you already have more than one user account on your system and you have to logon anyway.
The reason is, it will create a new use account, but you can go into your Control
Panel under (User Accounts) and delete that new user account with out effecting the way thing's work and everything will be back to normal again. Just so you'll know in advance.

Elvin Presler
01-19-07, 05:33 AM
My trusty old BFG 6800 GT fried last night and I really wanted the X1950 Pro 512mb but I read a whole lot of horror stories about needing a seriously high end power supply. Like 650w with a 30+ amp 12 volt rail and the like, and my Antec Truepower 430w only has a 20 amp 12 volt...so I went with the 7800GS.