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superklye
01-07-07, 11:21 PM
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/003423.html

Toshiba continues to improve HD DVD storage capacity. At the HD DVD Promotion Group's press conference this evening, the company announced it has developed 50GB triple-layer rewritable and ROM media.

This capacity is up from the company’s previous explorations of a higher-capacity 45GB triple-layer disc. Currently, HD DVD maxes out at a 30GB dual-layer disc.

Stay tuned for further updates.

Taste teh w00tx0rz Sony! BD has NOTHING on HD DVD anymore. :D

Triple layer BD could have 75GB, sure, but considering they barely got BD DL working, I won't hold my breath.

w00t w00t w00t!

betterdan
01-07-07, 11:26 PM
Haha just saw this on AVS Forum. Suck it Sony. :)

betterdan
01-07-07, 11:33 PM
HD DVD Press Release: 300 titles this year, New hardware from Onkyo, Meridian
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-07-2007/0004501052&EDATE=

A101Sugar
01-07-07, 11:36 PM
so pretty much Blu Ray = screwed?

GamerGuyX
01-07-07, 11:38 PM
New hardware from Onkyo, Meridian

:eek:

Excuse me while I gag on my own saliva.

superklye
01-07-07, 11:38 PM
I just saw that, too!

I'm very excited that there are finally going to be more brands of HD DVD players out there...not that Toshiba isn't doing a fantastic job, they are, but it'll help further drive cost down. :D

Looks like that LG dual-format IS going to be $1200 at launch. :( Sad panda.

Toshiba's also got the HD-A20 coming out. $599.99 and it has 1080p24/60. Seems like it's just the HD-A2 with 1080p for $100 more. No analog audio...that's still for the XA2.

If only they would've announced a $200 price drop on the A2 effective immediately. Ah well.

superklye
01-07-07, 11:39 PM
:eek:

Excuse me while I gag on my own saliva.
Gag in a good or bad way?

GamerGuyX
01-07-07, 11:45 PM
Gag in a good or bad way?

Not in a good or bad way.

More in a great way actually. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/ban-split.gif

superklye
01-07-07, 11:47 PM
Not in a good or bad way.

More in a great way actually. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/ban-split.gif
Haha, fair enough. Onkyo has always seemed like a great brand to me, though sadly I've never had the pleasure of using any of their products. :o

GamerGuyX
01-07-07, 11:51 PM
Haha, fair enough. Onkyo has always seemed like a great brand to me, though sadly I've never had the pleasure of using any of their products. :o

superklye, did you hear the news about Lionsgate now supporting Xbox Live Video downloads with their movies?


Check it out:

Microsoft Announces Lionsgate as Newest Content Partner

On stage at CES, Microsoft also announced today a new partner for Xbox Live Video Marketplace. Lionsgate (NYSE:LGF) will be bringing a lineup of high-definition films to the service in the coming year. Films such as “An American Haunting,” “Blair Witch Project,” “Crank,” “The Descent,” “Employee of the Month,” “Hard Candy,” “Ninth Gate,” “The Punisher,” “Requiem for a Dream,” “Saw III,” “See No Evil” and “Stir of Echoes” will be available for download on Xbox Live Video Marketplace in high definition in 2007.

"This partnership is great for Lionsgate. The Xbox gamer is the same moviegoer who wants to watch "Saw III," or "Crank," said Jon Ferro Exec Vice President of Lionsgate. "That is why we are so thrilled to bring Lionsgate films to Xbox Live Video Marketplace. Bringing our content to this audience makes perfect sense and reflects our commitment to remain at the cutting edge of content distribution to new media platforms."


Source: http://gamerscoreblog.com/team/archive/2007/01/07/539839.aspx

This might be the first step to them going neutral and supporting HD DVD. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/alert.gif

superklye
01-07-07, 11:52 PM
superklye, did you hear the news about Lionsgate now supporting Xbox Live Video downloads?
Yeah, I was actually just about to post that, too. :D

While not quite the announcement I was hoping for, this could be the stepping-stone to them putting out HD DVD releases as MS is (obviously) backing HD DVD...

*crosses fingers*

nekrosoft13
01-07-07, 11:53 PM
Haha, fair enough. Onkyo has always seemed like a great brand to me, though sadly I've never had the pleasure of using any of their products. :o

i love my onkyo receiver

betterdan
01-07-07, 11:58 PM
This may be old news but I didn't know New Line is on board with HD DVD.

superklye
01-08-07, 12:00 AM
This may be old news but I didn't know New Line is on board with HD DVD.
Officially? I thought I'd heard they were likely going to stay neutral...do you have a link?

EDIT: or are you talking about released referred to in the blurb about 300 new titles? From what most people are saying, the vast majority of those 300 titles are going to BD as well. :(

betterdan
01-08-07, 12:06 AM
Oh they may be releasing Blu Ray discs also. I just got the info from that article about the 300 titles being released.

nekrosoft13
01-08-07, 12:09 AM
maybe a stupid question

will current devices (xbox 360 hd-drive, stand-alone players) will be able to read the new triple layer disc?

betterdan
01-08-07, 12:10 AM
maybe a stupid question

will current devices (xbox 360 hd-drive, stand-alone players) will be able to read the new triple layer disc?
Good question and I haven't seen anything saying that current hardware will be able to read it. Hopefully all that will be needed is just a firmware update.

superklye
01-08-07, 12:11 AM
maybe a stupid question

will current devices (xbox 360 hd-drive, stand-alone players) will be able to read the new triple layer disc?
No idea. There's not enough information available yet. Hopefully a firmware update is all that will be required, but we'll have to wait and see what's announced...

harl
01-08-07, 03:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Ray#Ongoing_Development


Although the Blu-ray Disc specification has been finalized, engineers continue working to advance the technology. Quad-layer (100 GB) discs have been demonstrated. And TDK announced in August that they have created a working experimental Blu-ray Disc capable of holding 200 GB of data on a single side, using six 33 GB data layers. [8] Such discs would almost certainly not work on some of today's Blu-ray Disc players, as these devices are only designed and tested on discs that meet the current specification. Of course, six-layer discs or other advanced techniques may be included in a later generation of the Blu-ray Disc spec, when they can be reliably mass-produced.


wow 45 GB HD-DVD :owned:

harl
01-08-07, 05:48 AM
Good news.
Bye bye Blueray and lol at Sony!

BTW Sonyis not the only one supporting Blu-ray.
There are many companies including apple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporations_supporting_Blu-ray

nekrosoft13
01-08-07, 06:15 AM
BTW Sonyis not the only one supporting Blu-ray.
There are many companies including apple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporations_supporting_Blu-ray

omfg apple is supporting blu-ray, OMFG!!

oh wait, i don't care

if you want capacity battle, blu-ray still prooves useless compared to HVD.

there is no future for blu-ray.

HD-DVD will be the superior format

HVD will take over large data storage

Blu-ray will join his old brother betamax and his sister MD

superklye
01-08-07, 07:23 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Ray#Ongoing_Development



wow 45 GB HD-DVD :owned:
Umm...50GB. And considering how easily they were able to get dual-layer BD discs working, I'm sure those 100GB quad-layer discs are right around the corner. :rolleyes2

BTW Sonyis not the only one supporting Blu-ray.
There are many companies including apple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporations_supporting_Blu-ray
No ****? Really? Wow...this is the first I've heard of this and it's amazing I and every other consumer out there hasn't heard Apple and all those other companies talking about BD.

Oh right. They aren't.

Sony is the only company staking their entire reputation/financial future on BD technology. They are the most outspoken advocate of the technology and as far as ANYONE is concerned, BD = Sony = BD.

superklye
01-08-07, 07:27 AM
Good news!

Looks the NEC drive used in the A1/XA1 IS capable of reading 45GB triple layer discs with no firmware update needed...hopefully that means the same is true for whatever is in the A2/XA2/A20 and the LG dual-format player...

http://www.cloetens.be/indeling/hd_dvd.pdf

betterdan
01-08-07, 08:17 AM
Good find Klye! :thumbsup:

superklye
01-08-07, 08:24 AM
Good find Klye! :thumbsup:
Heh, I can't take the credit...someone posted that at AVS.

Also, there's a link to a Chinese site that explains a bit more where the extra 5GB came from the triple-layer discs...they've been able to expand capacity to 17GB/layer so TL discs are actually 51GB.

Apparently they're rummored for wide release/use by 2008.