Wonder how well you PC will run Crysis

[Mr_LoL]

Xion stop wasting your time with the clown. You arent going to convince him otherwise.

[icecold1983]

everything ive claimed ive showed solid evidence that backs it up

[Xion X2]

everything ive claimed ive showed solid evidence that backs it up

Just because you show evidence of your computer running crappy doesn't mean that it should be running that way. The results that you're showing don't match up either with review sites or what users are posting here. But it's not like it matters, because you're too hard-headed to listen to it. Just a quick recap:

I've shown you self-benchmarks that I've done. You didn't like those and wanted to claim it was low-action/detail.

So then I took some shots in the middle of some very detailed battlefields with lots of gunfire with the frame-counter sticking where it did before.

Then you wanted to claim you never said you were talking about running 16xAA.. that you were talking about 4xAA the entire time. Then I pulled a quote of yours specifically mentioning you running at 16xAA.

Then, screw that.. you wanted to then say that even at 4xAA your COD2 game only ran around 44fps. Then I pulled benchmark after benchmark showing tests averaging over 10fps more than you were getting on a weaker processor while debunking your "Resolution Theory" in the process.

Then.. screw that. You wanted to say that the review never said which stage it was, even though I've shown you 3 different maps with screenshots with the framerate staying pegged over 50 w/ 16xAA on my machine.

Well, I'm tired of playing ring-around-the-rosie with you; I'll let you have your playground all to yourself. I've tried talking some common sense into you, but I think there's a bigger gap between you and it than the Grand Canyon itself.

Enjoy your 360.

[icecold1983]

Just because you show evidence of your computer running crappy doesn't mean that it should be running that way. The results that you're showing don't match up either with review sites or what users are posting here. But it's not like it matters, because you're too hard-headed to listen to it. Just a quick recap:

I've shown you self-benchmarks that I've done. You didn't like those and wanted to claim it was low-action/detail.

So then I took some shots in the middle of some very detailed battlefields with lots of gunfire with the frame-counter sticking where it did before.

Then you wanted to claim you never said you were talking about running 16xAA.. that you were talking about 4xAA the entire time. Then I pulled a quote of yours specifically mentioning you running at 16xAA.

Then, screw that.. you wanted to then say that even at 4xAA your COD2 game only ran around 44fps. Then I pulled benchmark after benchmark showing tests averaging over 10fps more than you were getting on a weaker processor while debunking your "Resolution Theory" in the process.

Then.. screw that. You wanted to say that the review never said which stage it was, even though I've shown you 3 different maps with screenshots with the framerate staying pegged over 50 w/ 16xAA on my machine.

Well, I'm tired of playing ring-around-the-rosie with you; I'll let you have your playground all to yourself. I've tried talking some common sense into you, but I think there's a bigger gap between you and it than the Grand Canyon itself.

Enjoy your 360.

not matching up? sigh let me link AGAIN to the same links ive already linked to.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIxOCwxNCwsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=

"There are some places in the game where we saw the framerates tank, even on the BFGTech GeForce 8800 GTX when antialiasing was enabled."

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/11/08/nvidia_geforce_8800_gtx_g80/15.html

"we found that the SloMo mode dropped our frame rates in to the low teens."

so now that weve confirmed my fear results are 100% normal, as are my trackmania results, how can u claim that my cod 2 results are off?

oh wait fatality here confirms issues in dark messiah

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1115079&highlight=messiah#post1115079

wait heres another user echoing what im saying

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=83652&page=5

shaker718 "DM:M&M runs well, looks good, but still dips into the teens with everything on high using the large fireball spell."

he must also be an idiot and have no idea what hes doing.

and again in regards to the 16x aa thing, i was stating how cod 2 runs on the 8800 with 16x aa, not on my system with 16x aa. i then said that even with only 4x aa u can hit performance walls. there is no contradiction.

so i posted ss of fear framerate drops, and linked to 2 reputable sites coming to the EXACT same conclusion. i then posted ss of dark messiah with fps problems and 2 other 8800 gtx owners on this forum echo my problems. ive shown u jakups trackmania bench matching mine, i get the exact same scores running the built in company of heros bench as ever review site that has used it. my 3d mark score is 10k with a stock e6600, perfectly normal. i get the same fps in the nvidia g80 demos as a bunch of 8800 owners on beyond3d.com. do the math.

[Darkoz]

everything ive claimed ive showed solid evidence that backs it up

icecold1983, for comparisons sake, can you run the in-built F.E.A.R benchmark with all settings max. 4x AA / 8x AF and softshadows OFF @ 1920x1200 resolution and post a screenshot of the score.

[icecold1983]

icecold1983, for comparisons sake, can you run the in-built F.E.A.R benchmark with all settings max. 4x AA / 8x AF and softshadows OFF @ 1920x1200 resolution and post a screenshot of the score.

i only have the demos for fear and fear xp.

[Darkoz]

i only have the demos for fear and fear xp.

Doesn't the demo have the benchmark?

[Redeemed]

Icecold, I'm not going to debate anymore with you. I'm merely going to point something out-

The performance recieved in the demo of a video game will vary from the performance achieved in the retail version. Buy FEAR and then try playing the game- you'll see exactly what I mean.

The very last thing I will point out is that there is a very large difference between a video card hitting a performance wall and the coding for the game being crap. When a video card hits a performance wall, the game is taxing the GPU. When the coding is crap the factors involved are too many to blame just the GPU- your CPU, RAM, and even hard drives could be the bottleneck in such a case.

As such, for any current PC title that has decent coding, the 8800's have yet to hit a performace wall. For all titles with fubar'd coding- the performance wall is not limited to the GPU but encompass the entire system. Thusly you cannot accurately claim that the GPU is hitting a performance wall. Furthermore any blame as a result of such poor coding should be directed at the software and developers, NOT at the hardware.

[Redeemed]

Doesn't the demo have the benchmark?

No, it does not.

[icecold1983]

Icecold, I'm not going to debate anymore with you. I'm merely going to point something out-

The performance recieved in the demo of a video game will vary from the performance achieved in the retail version. Buy FEAR and then try playing the game- you'll see exactly what I mean.

The very last thing I will point out is that there is a very large difference between a video card hitting a performance wall and the coding for the game being crap. When a video card hits a performance wall, the game is taxing the GPU. When the coding is crap the factors involved are too many to blame just the GPU- your CPU, RAM, and even hard drives could be the bottleneck in such a case.

As such, for any current PC title that has decent coding, the 8800's have yet to hit a performace wall. For all titles with fubar'd coding- the performance wall is not limited to the GPU but encompass the entire system. Thusly you cannot accurately claim that the GPU is hitting a performance wall. Furthermore any blame as a result of such poor coding should be directed at the software and developers, NOT at the hardware.

so if lowering settings that would only affect the video card(texture detail, resolution, aa af etc) substantially raise my framerate the gpu hasnt hit a performance wall?

u are making a big claim there in terms of coding, since ur essentially saying trackmania, oblivion, fear, cod 2, company of heros, dark messiah, call of juarez, just cause and many others are all coded like crap.

[Redeemed]

so if lowering settings that would only affect the video card(texture detail, resolution, aa af etc) substantially raise my framerate the gpu hasnt hit a performance wall?

u are making a big claim there in terms of coding, since ur essentially saying trackmania, oblivion, fear, cod 2, company of heros, dark messiah, call of juarez, just cause and many others are all coded like crap.


We've been over this too many times. I'm sure you already know how I'd like to answer this. But, we are going in circles my friend. I will debate this with you no more.

*Tips hat to gents in thread, stands and leaves thread*

[nemecb]

What's this? He's threadjacked another one? I'm shocked, shocked I say!:wonder:

[nekrosoft13]

everything ive claimed ive showed solid evidence that backs it up

Only thing that you have proven that you are either blind, stupid or complete moron. Well could be a combo of those 3.

[flukester]

Well myself and lots of people are not going to buy into having to get a 8800 just to play one game. I said same thing for Farcry and 5months after it was released I got it for 14.99 in the bargain bin. This game, like Farcry will go nowhere because the majority of people aren't stupid enough to fork out an unrealistic amount of money for a video card to run this game the 'way it was intended' and I'm not wasting good money to buy a game I have to turn everything off. Crytek is a dumb ass company anyhow. They want to make a next gen game and 2 times now they think people will run out and buy latest hardware just to run it. They want a game to last, yeah, lets look at that HUGE community they got with Farcry... lmao. HL1 was a major achievement and in some way HL2 is as well and will be around a long time. I sincerely doubt anyone will care about this game a year after its release. I can play 99.9% of everything I am interested in, Crysis like Farcry can wait. And that's if I don't totally switch to my Xbox 360.

[Xion X2]

i only have the demos for fear and fear xp.

My god. All this time you've been complaining about the performance of your machine on FEAR based on a f****** demo???

Newsflash Einstein.. you cannot download patches that support later hardware with just a demo on your machine. Therefore, it probably won't be as well optimized as the final product would be.

Unbelievable. :retard:

[brownstone]

Yeah demo's get released all the time that don't reflect the first release retail version.

U don't go debating against those who have retail because your demo runs like crap.

Think about when the first FEAR demo was released and the timeline before the first 8800gtx came out! Then think of when the last retail patch came out and the 8800gtx came out. Im not saying that the last patch had optimizations specifically for the 8800 but im positive its gonna run better than ur demo.

[Xion X2]

I just went back and read, and he also said he was playing just the demo of COD2.

So all of his arguments have been based on what the demo ran like on his machine, not the final product.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/retard.gif

[agentkay]

The demos for both COD2 and FEAR ran worse than the retail versions for me.

[J-Mag]

The demos for both COD2 and FEAR ran worse than the retail versions for me.

+1

[Redeemed]

The demos for both COD2 and FEAR ran worse than the retail versions for me.

+2

[Redeemed]

= 3! :p

[GitDat]

http://www.crysis-online.com/?id=172

Crysis: 2048x1536 at 60 FPS

In case you're worried about how well Crysis will perform on your new rig, it looks like it runs pretty smoothly at 2048x1536 assuming you have a Core 2 Duo and (single) 8800GTX running on Vista.


:lol2: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!one!!eleven! :lol2:

[crainger]

LOL

[Crow_Nest]

Now i read that article, and i laugh. LMAO.

Hopefully the full release would be better, but it still leaves some of us with a bad first impression though...

[Gaco]

HAhaha wtf. Perhaps some crazy driver updates and game optimization will save the day after all? :lol:

Nah it was probably just DX9 at high settings on a super quadcore SLI machine in a lower res than they speculated :)