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Kemo
01-18-07, 08:02 PM
Agree or disagree up to this point.
It's looking like that the 8800's are actually just one level up from 7900's. I used a 7900gt once ran CoD2 at 1280 and got decent fps (35-75) with 4xAA and 8xAniso. Now with the 8800gtx, i get 35-120fps depending on what forceware driver im using. Yes big increase, but i shouldnt be seeing anything below 60fps if this is a gfx card with new archictecture and dx10. Remember the transition from geforce4 to FX 5950 Ultra? 5950 had DX9 compatibility, but ran it extrememly slow. IMO, it looks the same way now between the 7900's and 8800's.


Maybe im impatiently waiting for nvidia to make real drivers for this card, and it IS a new card after all. But im starting to think that maybe i shouldve waited and just kept using my 7800gt.
Thoughts?:thumbdwn:

Q
01-18-07, 08:05 PM
Agree or disagree up to this point.
It's looking like that the 8800's are actually just one level up from 7900's. I used a 7900gt once ran CoD2 at 1280 and got decent fps (35-75) with 4xAA and 8xAniso. Now with the 8800gtx, i get 35-120fps depending on what forceware driver im using. Yes big increase, but i shouldnt be seeing anything below 60fps if this is a gfx card with new archictecture and dx10. Remember the transition from geforce4 to FX 5950 Ultra? 5950 had DX9 compatibility, but ran it extrememly slow. IMO, it looks the same way now between the 7900's and 8800's.


Maybe im impatiently waiting for nvidia to make real drivers for this card, and it IS a new card after all. But im starting to think that maybe i shouldve waited and just kept using my 7800gt.
Thoughts?:thumbdwn:

I have thoughts like yours at times...but then I think...

They call it bleeding edge for a reason: it hurts.

hokeyplyr48
01-18-07, 08:05 PM
well what resolution are you running your games at? these powerful cards really shine at high resolutions, like 2560x1600.

Xion X2
01-18-07, 08:15 PM
I don't know what resolution you're playing at, but COD2 never dropped below 45fps on my 1680x1050 setup when I had a single 8800GTX. And that's running all settings maxed, 16x filtering and 16x anti-aliasing. I'm running the 97.92's. Most of the time it stayed at 52fps and up.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=23541&stc=1&d=1168921351
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=23542&stc=1&d=1168920964
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=23544&stc=1&d=1168920964

When you consider that previous-gen cards couldn't even run but 4xAA in single-card mode and took just as much (or more) of a performance hit as 16xAA on the 8800's, I think that's pretty impressive.

Roadhog
01-18-07, 08:21 PM
oh shi. here we go again.

DaveW
01-18-07, 08:23 PM
Agree or disagree up to this point.
It's looking like that the 8800's are actually just one level up from 7900's. I used a 7900gt once ran CoD2 at 1280 and got decent fps (35-75) with 4xAA and 8xAniso. Now with the 8800gtx, i get 35-120fps depending on what forceware driver im using.


So your max framerate went up 60% but your minimum framerate remained unchanged. That means you are CPU limited. You could put a future GeForce 9950 in it and your minimum framerate would still be 35.

|MaguS|
01-18-07, 08:26 PM
Man... you guys getting dragged in by these trolls so easily...

SlieTheSecond
01-18-07, 08:30 PM
At 1280x1024, everything maxed. 16xAA and 16xAF I don't think I have dropped below 40fps with a GTS.

Run a higher resolution with a better cpu that can take more advantage of the card. Then see how your last video card holds up to it.

fatal1ty
01-18-07, 08:52 PM
Agree or disagree up to this point.
It's looking like that the 8800's are actually just one level up from 7900's. I used a 7900gt once ran CoD2 at 1280 and got decent fps (35-75) with 4xAA and 8xAniso. Now with the 8800gtx, i get 35-120fps depending on what forceware driver im using. Yes big increase, but i shouldnt be seeing anything below 60fps if this is a gfx card with new archictecture and dx10. Remember the transition from geforce4 to FX 5950 Ultra? 5950 had DX9 compatibility, but ran it extrememly slow. IMO, it looks the same way now between the 7900's and 8800's.


Maybe im impatiently waiting for nvidia to make real drivers for this card, and it IS a new card after all. But im starting to think that maybe i shouldve waited and just kept using my 7800gt.
Thoughts?:thumbdwn:

Sorry man but I had a X3800 @ 3.0 Ghz and my Conroe at even a mere 2.4 Ghz thrashed it hard. The AMD CPU is the bottleneck, get a conroe and you will be amazed at the performance you are missing. At 3.6 Ghz nothing touches me and I dont have to worry about the minimums anymore. :)

ccxvi
01-18-07, 09:03 PM
well what resolution are you running your games at? these powerful cards really shine at high resolutions, like 2560x1600.

How the Hell does reducing the resolution decrease performance? Common sense tells me that processing less pixels decreases the load on the GPU and therefore increases framerates.

|MaguS|
01-18-07, 09:11 PM
How the Hell does reducing the resolution decrease performance? Common sense tells me that processing less pixels decreases the load on the GPU and therefore increases framerates.

But you want the opposite when it comes to the 8800GTX... Current CPUs are the bottleneck unless you up the resolution and graphics.

Blacklash
01-18-07, 09:57 PM
Thoughts.

Don't buy a 8800GTX for 1280x. Give it CPU support at least equal to a 3.0GHz C2D to see its full potential. That's easy to do as the E4300s and E6300s overclock to the realm of 3.2GHz with little trouble. Most fall around 3.4-3.5GHz with aftermarket coolers.

jAkUp
01-18-07, 10:07 PM
COD2 runs lightyears faster than my dual 7950GX2's. No numbers, but it runs perfect now.

SLippe
01-18-07, 10:25 PM
I'd be happy to trade you straight-up, Kemo.

TiKiMaN1
01-18-07, 11:10 PM
Kemo you may disagree with this and others might as well, but I would have to say that your CPU is bottleneck. Now no doubt the FX55 is a great CPU and all, but I sure noticed a huge difference between my Intel E6700 at stock 2.66GHz and it being overclocked to 3.5Ghz. It was butter, butter smooth on my single GTX. In COH benchie my constant FPS was 111 if I remember correctly. The 8800 GTX is a monster and has a huge appetite and must be fed the info very fast.

Bokishi
01-18-07, 11:18 PM
Yea, CPU upgrade FTW

Saintster
01-18-07, 11:26 PM
I love my GTX it's way faster than my 2 7900 gtx cards in sli. It's such a badass card i don;t even need to go sli with this series of cards.

RussianHAXOR
01-18-07, 11:37 PM
You should try comparing at higher resolutions... it works your card more and relies LESS on your CPU.

scott123
01-19-07, 07:33 AM
Agree or disagree up to this point.
It's looking like that the 8800's are actually just one level up from 7900's. I used a 7900gt once ran CoD2 at 1280 and got decent fps (35-75) with 4xAA and 8xAniso. Now with the 8800gtx, i get 35-120fps depending on what forceware driver im using. Yes big increase, but i shouldnt be seeing anything below 60fps if this is a gfx card with new archictecture and dx10. Remember the transition from geforce4 to FX 5950 Ultra? 5950 had DX9 compatibility, but ran it extrememly slow. IMO, it looks the same way now between the 7900's and 8800's.


Maybe im impatiently waiting for nvidia to make real drivers for this card, and it IS a new card after all. But im starting to think that maybe i shouldve waited and just kept using my 7800gt.
Thoughts?:thumbdwn:
I hate to tell you this but its not the card but rather your rig. I did the same thing as you and was mildly disappointed. I then built my new Core Duo and BAM! what a huge difference. You are presently CPU limited. The 8800 needs all the processor you can throw at it.

FastRedPonyCar
01-19-07, 08:13 AM
You should come play COD on my computer for a while. Then when you get back home to your computer, you'll really appreciate it.








:(

hirantha
01-19-07, 09:12 AM
yeah without a good processor.. "forget about it" (say like an Italian) :D

Just don't blame 8800GTX for her big craving, i'm in love with her!

fivefeet8
01-19-07, 01:11 PM
COD2 running great here with my lowly Athlon64 x2 3800+@2.6ghertz. The current COD2 1.3 patch increases performance for Multicore CPU systems. The G80 cards definately are fed better with them. Don't get too much disdain for these Dx9 games. Dx10 games are suppose to leverage the GPU more than the CPU in upcoming games. You'll definately appreciate the G80 then. ;)

XDanger
01-19-07, 01:27 PM
Nobody mentioned the V word.

|MaguS|
01-19-07, 01:37 PM
Nobody mentioned the V word.

vagina?

Kemo
01-19-07, 01:38 PM
i wasn't trying to bash the g80. i was researching the e6600 and it's OC-ability and performance with the g80. and as for higher resolutions, my monitor only goes up to 1280x1024. i have a HUGE 19" crt that goes up to 1600x1200 and it doesn't fit too nicely on my desk. i did once, however, try it out with the 19" crt and i did see much smoother performance. thanks for the advice all.

other thought, will the g80's yield good performance with dx10 as it does with dx9? i sure hope so.