North Korea acting badly

[sbp]

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Four North Korean fighter jets (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37245-2003Mar3.html) intercepted a U.S. Air Force reconnaissance plane in international airspace over the Sea of Japan early Sunday, U.S. officials said yesterday, calling the action a serious provocation.

The incident was the first hostile act by North Korean aircraft against a U.S. plane since the 1960s and came amid mounting tensions between the two countries over North Korea's intensified pursuit of nuclear weapons.

According to a Pentagon account, an RC-135S aircraft on a "routine mission" about 150 miles off the coast of North Korea was approached by two North Korean MiG-29 fighters and two other North Korean aircraft thought to be MiG-23s. The North Korean planes, which were armed, "shadowed" the U.S. plane for 22 minutes, starting at 10:48 a.m. local time (8:48 p.m. Saturday EST), the Pentagon account said.

The North Korean aircraft closed to within 50 to 400 feet of the U.S. plane, defense officials said, and were flying at the same altitude as the four-engine RC-135S. At least one of the North Korean planes directed its radar to identify the U.S. aircraft as a target and may have "locked on," a step just short of shooting a missile, defense officials said. But none of the planes fired.

After the North Korean aircraft turned away, the U.S. plane aborted its mission and returned safely to its home base at Kadena Air Base on Okinawa. Pentagon spokesmen said they had no indication that U.S. fighter jets had been scrambled to protect the reconnaissance plane.

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The recent tensions began in October, when North Korea admitted it had a secret program to enrich uranium, which U.S. officials believe was part of a weapons program. The Bush administration persuaded its allies to cut off fuel oil shipments that had been part of a 1994 agreement under which North Korea shuttered a nuclear complex at Yongbyon in return for economic aid.

In response, North Korea has expelled international inspectors observing the Yongbyon complex, 55 miles north of the capital, Pyongyang; withdrawn from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; and test-fired an experimental short-range, anti-ship missile while Secretary of State Colin L. Powell was in the region last week.

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Another incident not mentioned was a North Korean jet that briefly crossed into South Korean airspace last week (http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=60058).

And the NK Missile Warhead shot off right before the inauguration of South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun was found in Alaska (http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm)

btw N Korea is about to launch another missile.

[netviper13]

That was a week ago dude. We sent a fleet of bombers over to Guam as a deterrent to further bad behavior.

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by netviper13
That was a week ago dude. We sent a fleet of bombers over to Guam as a deterrent to further bad behavior.

F*CK THAT!

I think we should pull the Blackbird out of mothballs and just continue our surveillence flights with it.....at about 1,000 ft. :p

Just let 'em TRY and intercept it.... ;)

[netviper13]

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
F*CK THAT!

I think we should pull the Blackbird out of mothballs and just continue our surveillence flights with it.....at about 1,000 ft. :p

Just let 'em TRY and intercept it.... ;)

Heh, but why do that when we've got satellites with geosynchronous orbits that can spot a license plate on a car? ;)

[SparrowHawk]

You guys don't seem to understand. These spy planes DON'T LOOK, they LISTEN.

[netviper13]

I can guarantee they're doing just as much looking as listening. There's not much point in listening to people if you can't verify what they are talking about with pictures.

[digitalwanderer]

Originally posted by netviper13
Heh, but why do that when we've got satellites with geosynchronous orbits that can spot a license plate on a car? ;)

Just to remind them we can. ;)

[sbp]

Reminds one of that incident with the Chinese which the Chinese did to test out a new president. Bush showed he wouldn't be pushed around.

Hopefully these North Korean pilots didn't go to the same flying academy as that bonehead Chinese fighter jet pilot. Everyone remembers the dummy who collided with the US Navy aircraft almost 2 years ago? Well that Chinese fighter jet pilot went to Chairman Mao's overnight flying academy. Darn Cheapie Commies!

Check this out: North Korea is making up bs (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=68&ncid=68&e=2&u=/nyt/20030304/ts_nyt/north_korea_mig_s_intercept_u_s__jet_on_a_spy_miss ion) by saying that the RC-135S "illegally intruded into the air above the territorial waters in the East Sea almost every day from February 21 and made shuttle flights in the air for hours to spy on major targets in its east coastal area.

wth, these nuts claiming Sea of Japan for themselves? Lets review. The US plane is flying well within international airspace over the Sea of Japan and N. Korea is saying its theirs. o_O Looks like North Korea is pulling another China which claims almost the whole South China Sea. http://www.lemonizer.com/uploads/china.gif
"No, we are not going to share, we claim the whole damn thing." lol!

Moving along...looks like these cats were trying to get hostages (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=68&ncid=68&e=5&u=/nyt/20030308/ts_nyt/north_korean_fliers_said_to_have_sought_hostages).
The North Korean fighter jets that intercepted an unarmed American spy plane over the Sea of Japan last weekend were trying to force the aircraft to land in North Korea and seize its crew, a senior defense official said today.

One of the four North Korean MIG's came within 50 feet of the American plane, an Air Force RC-135S Cobra Ball aircraft, and the pilot made internationally recognized hand signals to the American flight crew to follow him, presumably back to his home base, the official said.

Just like their Chinese buddies. :ass:

This is laughably bad. North Korea has demanded direct talks with the United States (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37245-2003Mar3.html) and sought a nonaggression agreement to end the crisis. But the administration has insisted on meeting the North Koreans only in a multinational forum. The administration's approach has been resisted by other key nations in the region, including China, Russia and South Korea. But the administration has held firm, as have the North Koreans, leaving the situation at a stalemate.

The US is not supposed to act unilateral {its not but that's besides the point} in the Iraq situation. But when it comes to North Korea these countries don't want to get involved. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/pics/bleh.gif

And surprise, surprise North Korea Rejects Multilateral Talks (http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030308_534.html)
Why does North Korea want direct talks? That way it can blame the US for stuff {not that N. Korea doesn't do that already} and get goodies. Bush however, is being firm and saying we won't be blackmailed into concessions unlike the previous administration which was weak. Speaking of which...Democrats {some from the Clinton administration :rolleyes:} are trying to blame Bush by saying he is responsible for North Korea going nuclear. Hell, N. Korea already has 2 bombs.

But perhaps these peeps are right...its better to trust the most rotten regime on the face of the earth. Heck, the last administration certainly had that attitude. They made an agreement that the North Koreans violated even before the ink was dry! All it did was kick the can down the road.

"NK is taking full advantage us being sidetracked with Iraq." Well if it keeps pushing, it won't like the results. Also, North Koreas problem is the Iraq situation won't last much longer. Once that is taken care of, North Korean underwear will turn brown.

I've read armed American fighter escorts may be sent out with the reconnassaince plane.

North Korea keeps threatening to reactivate the nuclear plant (http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20027/story.htm)

What can happen is North Korea crank out the nukes while selling equipment and whatnot to the highest bidder. They've shown that tendancy in the past.

Basically N. Korea is acting like an unruly child that has a gun which its willing to use. Sadly now, the options are limited. This despicable North Korea regime has nukes and is wacko enough to use 'em. Can everyone say goodbye Seoul?

All these are more shameless incidents by the Stalinist North Koreans to ratchet up the tensions. Its all about getting the goodies you know. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/rolleye.gif There is the new South Korean president with his so-called sunshine policy which is more like head up the butt appeasement policy. As said before, we also have to partly thank the last administration which was aided by the gullible Jimmy Carter who has never met a dictator he has never liked.

And people can't understand why we don't want Hussein to have nukes? Having nukes or other WMD allows every pissant {yes pissant!} dictator out there to have a big stick to do whatever they want and not be held accountable for it. If Iraq had the bomb when it invaded Kuwait, who would have gone against it? No one would and Kuwait would be Iraq's 19th province now.

Also these despots don't have an idea of the escalation using a WMD will bring. Countries like the US and the USSR did, that is why there was MAD {Mutual Assured Destruction} and WMD were not used. These dictators on the other hand don't and that dramatically increases the chances of WMD being used.

I've said it once, I'll say it again: I firmly believe that sometime in the next few years a WMD will be used somewhere in the world.

Finally, terrorists {with or without the support of rotten despots} can get their dirty hands on WMD which is another great reason not to have all this WMD material floating around.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by netviper13
Heh, but why do that when we've got satellites with geosynchronous orbits that can spot a license plate on a car? ;)

Satellites aren't perfect. They have issues with weather, plus you have to hope they are at the right place at the right time and at the right angle to see what you want to see. If you need, say, photos of a specific location at exactly 8.00 am tomorrow then the only way to do it is by plane.

This recent move by north korea was obviously meant to provoke and intimidate. In a way they are lucky that the plane was not escorted or the Americans would have been doing some target locking of their own.

[sbp]

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[vampireuk]

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:D

[Kruno]

Nth Korea fired off another missile today.

Just letting you guys know. 2nd time happened in a fortnight.

[silence]

rofl vampireuk :D :D :D :D