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HeavyH20
01-21-07, 09:54 AM
Well, here is an interesting report on PSU failure rates.

http://www.behardware.com/news/8550/power-supply-failure-rate.html

To summarize, there were some particular models from each vendor that proved more troublesome than others. The Enermax Liberty series failure of 5.1% brought down their number from 1.8%. The Hiper R 580 killed Hiper's result. Thermaltake takes a hit with their Silent Power 680. And, every type of Antec appears to have an issue.



Fortron: 0.7%
Hiper: 1.2%
Seasonic: 1.4%
Thermaltake: 1.6%
Tagan: 2.8%
Enermax: 3.0%
Antec: 9.5%

CaptNKILL
01-21-07, 09:58 AM
Heh, I can vouch for the Antec Smartpower 2.0 not being real reliable. I had to return my first one because it developed a whistling noise. This one has been fine for a while now though. Not a single problem.

Their RMA service is fast and painless too from what I remember.

vandalous
01-21-07, 10:12 AM
I had an Antec Neo 480W that died suddenly and was not even a year old. Their A2Q warrany service was quick and painless though.

BFG PSUs have a lifetime warranty so I went to theirs.

CaptNKILL
01-21-07, 10:15 AM
Also, its worth noting that this is just a failure rate. A crappy PSU could just barely run a weak system for 10 years where as a more expensive high-powered unit could burn itself out trying to power an SLI system with 4 hard drives in a few months. A low powered PSU isn't going to replace a high powered one, no matter how long it lasts.

|MaguS|
01-21-07, 10:23 AM
My PSU isn't on the list. :(

BTW My Forton failed before my Seasonic did, god I love that Seasonic...

HeavyH20
01-21-07, 10:49 AM
Not all PSU's will be on the list since a European retailer. But, this is a failure rate that a retail vendor had to deal with. So, I would assume more of a 30 day or less window for these failures.

mullet
01-21-07, 11:31 AM
loves my hiper 580!!!

CaptNKILL
01-21-07, 11:48 AM
Anyone know how these stack up as far as reliability? I don't really need any more power right now but I'd feel more comfortable with some more juice behind my system and it'd make it easier to upgrade later if I already had a really good power supply.

OCZ GameXStream 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341001

OCZ GameXStream 700W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

FSP (Fortron) FX600 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104025

SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151028

All of them have 72A (18x4) on the 12v rails. I'm leaning toward the OCZ 600W because of the excellent price and good things I've heard about it and how its supposedly very quiet.

|MaguS|
01-21-07, 11:49 AM
The Seasonic S12 is amazing! That was my old PSU that I ran my rig on... even with my 8800GTX SLi. :D

I can sell you it for cheap if you want.

CaptNKILL
01-21-07, 12:13 PM
The Seasonic S12 is amazing! That was my old PSU that I ran my rig on... even with my 8800GTX SLi. :D

I can sell you it for cheap if you want.
Sent you a PM Magus. :)

vandalous
01-21-07, 12:33 PM
Anyone know how these stack up as far as reliability? I don't really need any more power right now but I'd feel more comfortable with some more juice behind my system and it'd make it easier to upgrade later if I already had a really good power supply.

OCZ GameXStream 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341001

OCZ GameXStream 700W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

FSP (Fortron) FX600 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104025

SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151028

All of them have 72A (18x4) on the 12v rails. I'm leaning toward the OCZ 600W because of the excellent price and good things I've heard about it and how its supposedly very quiet.

I really like jonnyguru.com and his PSU evals. Very solid. SPCR is good too. Here are some reviews for ya though...

OCZ search results (http://www.jonnyguru.com/search.php?search=ocz&reviews=1&search_submit=1&Submit=Submit)

Seasonic (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article656-page1.html)

CaptNKILL
01-21-07, 12:49 PM
I really like jonnyguru.com and his PSU evals. Very solid. SPCR is good too. Here are some reviews for ya though...

OCZ search results (http://www.jonnyguru.com/search.php?search=ocz&reviews=1&search_submit=1&Submit=Submit)

Seasonic (http://www.silentpcreview.com/article656-page1.html)
Thanks. :)

Rytr
01-21-07, 12:54 PM
I wish there were more reports available to consumers. This one is good as PSUs are hyped by the watt rating and all the add-ons. It would be good to know who actually manufactures the re-badged units as the subcontracts seem to change from model to model. I use to keep up with this but the last couple of years my sources have not been available.
FSP and Tagan mfg a lot of cores under contract and usually are the most dependable however I have had good luck with Enermax models although I had to RMA one last year that I received DOA.
PC Power&Cooling still are the elite in dependable power supplies however the fan noise on the 1000W model is ridiculous for the price you have to pay.

Uberpwnage
01-21-07, 01:30 PM
Fortron FTW!!!11 (soon to be replaced by silverstone)

Riptide
01-21-07, 01:57 PM
I had two Antec TruPower 2.0 430W that developed a fan squeak. Got sick of them and just got an OCZ PowerStream instead.

Mr_LoL
01-21-07, 04:40 PM
Those Evostreams are expensive. 130 for a 600watt unit. I would rather get the Corsair 620watt which is 35 cheaper.

Dazz
01-21-07, 07:43 PM
Quite suprized ThermalTake has a low failer rate considering 90% of the people diss them. I've never had a PSU crap out on me yet, and thats over 12 years.

SH0DAN
01-21-07, 08:20 PM
Those Evostreams are expensive. 130 for a 600watt unit. I would rather get the Corsair 620watt which is 35 cheaper.


Cheaper price wise,and better quality and warranty,as well as better caps,and a better oem builder(Corsair).


I've never had a PSU crap out on me yet, and thats over 12 years.


You must be blessed :D No problems with drivers and not one ps failure in 12 years ?!

HeavyH20
01-21-07, 08:30 PM
I have never had a bad PSU, either. Of course, 2% is a 1 in 50 chance so chances are slim.

RussianHAXOR
01-21-07, 08:41 PM
FYI forton is in the OCZ psus too.

and ultrea isnt even listed! haah.

stevemedes
01-22-07, 12:17 AM
my antec trupower2 550 SLI is about 4-5 months strong. runs my C2D system nicely, and i bet it'd run a 8800gtx fine as well.

Muppet
01-22-07, 02:25 AM
Loving my 1Kw Silverstone here :)

Wolfhound
01-22-07, 03:46 AM
No problem with my tagan 580W :D

Stoneyguy
01-22-07, 06:33 AM
I think it's safe to assume that a good part of the high Antec return rate is it's problem with Asus boards.

nekrosoft13
01-22-07, 07:01 AM
i love my seasonic