Splinter Cell

[Darren555]

Just bought it.
Top game but disapointed with frame rates. I have an Athlon XP2400+, 512mb 333 Ram, 80gb 7200rpm ATA133 Hard Drive & a Radeon 9700Pro with cats 3.1 running XP Pro. At 1024 x 768 I get 25-30 fps and if I put night vision on it gets very choppy.
Doesn't matter whether AA enabled or not.
Is this the norm?

Darren

[5150 Joker]

Originally posted by Darren555
Just bought it.
Top game but disapointed with frame rates. I have an Athlon XP2400+, 512mb 333 Ram, 80gb 7200rpm ATA133 Hard Drive & a Radeon 9700Pro with cats 3.1 running XP Pro. At 1024 x 768 I get 25-30 fps and if I put night vision on it gets very choppy.
Doesn't matter whether AA enabled or not.
Is this the norm?

Darren

That is definitely not the norm! I avg 40-60 fps with 1600x1200 max details and 8X AF. Check to make sure that vsync is set to application settings in the control panel and that your AGP is at 4X. If you have a VIA board, make sure you have the latest AGP drivers for it installed. Here's my splinter cell.ini file, give it a try:

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[tamattack]

Anyone care to share with me how to get fps in splinter cell? :confused:

[Darren555]

You get fps using FRAPS

[tamattack]

Oh, I thought there might be a console command (like in Unreal). Thx.

[nin_fragile14]

I get about 25-50 fps at 1280x1024 with max shadows, no aniso. It's the most demanding game I've played.

[Darren555]

All sorted now! All I did was change the vertical sync from always off to application preference. Thanks Joker! Now get 55-70 fps with 6x AA & 16x AF.

[Dazz]

Hmm could it be the Radeon doesn't like Vsync off?

[Luminescent]

Type "stat fps" (without quotations) in the console for it to display the instantaneous fps readings.

[MuFu]

Originally posted by Darren555
All sorted now! All I did was change the vertical sync from always off to application preference. Thanks Joker! Now get 55-70 fps with 6x AA & 16x AF.

You can run with FSAA and no visual anomalies? Hmm... weird.

I get lighting/Z errors and was under the impression that the problem with FSAA wouldn't be resolved until the next patch. Pretty fluid @1280x1024 w/8xAF so I'd like to push it a little further if possible.

MuFu.

[kyleb]

Originally posted by Luminescent
Type "stat fps" (without quotations) in the console for it to display the instantaneous fps readings.

and f2 opens a command line to do it as well, at least it did in the demo. but the performace does suck, i didn't buy the game for exactly this issue when played the second demo, not to mention the broken aa just plan sucks. i will buy it eventually when computers are fast enough and it is sitting in the bargin bin. but i will try the vsync thing on the demo and see if that works for the hell of it.


oh and i can't see why it would have an issue with vsync off Dazz, i have never seen any problems benchmarking anyway. however i can't really say about playing a game with it off as i abhor broken images.


*edit* not only did it still suck but vsync was most definatly off as it looked like crap.:mad:

[Rogozhin]

Splinter cell doesn't support AA at the moment, if you are running AA then you are lying about it working. No one i've talked to can enable AA without lights shinning through walls.

rogo

[kyleb]

well you might not be lying, rather just not paying attetion enough to care about all the weird glowing things that shouldn't be there. :D

[Darren555]

Yeah sorry my mistake. No AA.
Can't wait to see what it looks like with it though.

[Darren555]

Since I updated my drivers to Catalyst 3.2 my frame rate has dropped from 55-70 down to around 25. It is half of that when I put NV Goggles on. Anyone else noticed the difference??

[Darren555]

Or could it be the fact that I have upgraded DirectX 9 to the latest 9a:confused:

[Max Payne]

Has anybody tried it on an 8500 yet?
I just want to know how it would do on this card along with an XP2000+ cpu? I'm only interested in 1024*768 without AA and AF.
Hopefully with max settings.

Thanx.

[Darren555]

It was a fault with DX9a!!!
It has been reported that the new DirectX had issues with Catalyst 3.1 (although mine are 3.2's!) so they pulled them off the DirectX homepage. They are back up now, slightly modified so I reinstalled them and Splinter Cell is running fine again.
I suggest that anyone who downloaded them does it again.

Darren

[Clockwork]

Originally posted by Darren555
It was a fault with DX9a!!!
It has been reported that the new DirectX had issues with Catalyst 3.1 (although mine are 3.2's!) so they pulled them off the DirectX homepage. They are back up now, slightly modified so I reinstalled them and Splinter Cell is running fine again.
I suggest that anyone who downloaded them does it again.

Darren

That is just a rumor. A rumor that was actually debunked by an ATi employee over at the rage3d forums.

It simply isn't true.

[Darren555]

The fact is though that performance had dropped after I installed DirectX 9a & improved substantially when I installed the updated DirectX 9a version

[Clockwork]

Originally posted by Darren555
The fact is though that performance had dropped after I installed DirectX 9a & improved substantially when I installed the updated DirectX 9a version

I forgot what site it was , but upon examination of the original DX9a and then the Dx9a that was put back up, there was no change in the files..lol

Maybe it was jsut a placebo effect (all in your head). Could have been a bad original install though....

[Chiles4]

Has anybody tried it on an 8500 yet?
I just want to know how it would do on this card along with an XP2000+ cpu? I'm only interested in 1024*768 without AA and AF.
Hopefully with max settings.

I tried SC on a retail 8500LE with an XP2100+ and had to play at 800x600 in the demo with everything set to low. Don't know if its just the demo but this game seems to eat people's lunches. I don't think the game will do as well as you hope.

Luckily, SC is a pretty dark game and the jaggies aren't as noticeable. Try NOLF2 with all its light colors everywhere and the jaggies are overwhelming!

[Max Payne]

Thanx for the reply, I have been waiting for ages.;)

[Mike89]

Splinter cell doesn't support AA at the moment, if you are running AA then you are lying about it working. No one i've talked to can enable AA without lights shinning through walls.


This is absolutely not true. I am indeed running FSAA 4X in Splinter Cell (9800 Pro) and it's working very fine. I tried a tip someone posted on a forum about turning on and off Nightvision to stop the light shining through walls. I'll be damned if it didn't work. Anyone having this problem, try this!

[kyleb]

when you turn the nv on and off then it stopes the lights from shineing period. ;)