ForceWare 100.54 Beta Feedback Thread (GeForce 8 Series)

[lukrad]

ATI has released final drivers supporting openGL and Crossfire. Seriously...wtf NVIDIA think that i'm gonna wait for another three months before they release decent drivers. **** them, i can switch to r600 anytime i want...

[Ancient]

ATI has released final drivers supporting openGL and Crossfire. Seriously...wtf NVIDIA think that i'm gonna wait for another three months before they release decent drivers. **** them, i can switch to r600 anytime i want...
Can you switch today or tomorrow?

I'd bet that if the g80 weren't released for two more months and the NVIDIA driver team could concentrate right now only on drivers for the 6 and 7 series, we'd have very functional and stable drivers for Vista right now for the older NVIDIA cards, just like ATi has drivers for their old-in-the-tooth video cards on Vista. (Though their TV tuner support in Vista is sucking azz.)

You're comparing apples to oranges.

[lukrad]

Can you switch today or tomorrow?

I'd bet that if the g80 weren't released for two more months and the NVIDIA driver team could concentrate right now only on drivers for the 6 and 7 series, we'd have very functional and stable drivers for Vista right now for the older NVIDIA cards, just like ATi has drivers for their old-in-the-tooth video cards on Vista. (Though their TV tuner support in Vista is sucking azz.)

You're comparing apples to oranges.

What are you talking about?? Driver model for Vista didn't change since Beta 2. There is no single excuse for Nvidia or Creative for not releasing decent drivers.

[XxDeadlyxX]

Guys... the report for Catalyst 7.1 on Vista..

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_performance_amd_catalyst_7.1/

Very very solid release.

In all cases basically there is little difference at all, 0-10%. If ATI can pull it off, why cant nVidia?

Performance on the ATI driver actually IMPROVES in some cases, I've yet to see our nVidia drivers 100.xx improve in any curcumstance on any game compared to XP.

Please nVidia release a good driver today/tomorrow.

[GoldenTiger]

Anyone using the 64-bit versions? I'm looking toward upgrading from 2GB to 4GB at some point, and was wondering how the outlook is.

[lukrad]

Guys... the report for Catalyst 7.1 on Vista..

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_performance_amd_catalyst_7.1/

Very very solid release.

In all cases basically there is little difference at all, 0-10%. If ATI can pull it off, why cant nVidia?

Performance on the ATI driver actually IMPROVES in some cases, I've yet to see our nVidia drivers 100.xx improve in any curcumstance on any game compared to XP.

Please nVidia release a good driver today/tomorrow.

I just went to Creative discussion forum...those retards won't release drivers tomorrow, and only God knows when. :thumbdwn:

[Slammin]

Guys... the report for Catalyst 7.1 on Vista..

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_performance_amd_catalyst_7.1/

Very very solid release.

In all cases basically there is little difference at all, 0-10%. If ATI can pull it off, why cant nVidia?

Performance on the ATI driver actually IMPROVES in some cases, I've yet to see our nVidia drivers 100.xx improve in any curcumstance on any game compared to XP.

Please nVidia release a good driver today/tomorrow.



As was just said, ATI don't have the slight obstacle of having to write for both new OS and new hardware all at the same time. nVidia on the other hand have to write for BOTH new hardware and new OS.

ATI could possibly be working on Vista r600 drivers right now too, but I dunno, I haven't seen an r600 in the store today, or yesterday. Wait, I haven't seen an r600 anywhere.

[Slammin]

I just went to Creative discussion forum...those retards won't release drivers tomorrow, and only God knows when. :thumbdwn:


I get full 3-D sound with the latest beta from Creative and have absolutely no issues at all with them.

[ahheadlock]

so its jan 30 and no new drivers today. I think i'll give them a week to come up with something and if not, i might go back to XP until i upgrade to a DX10 video card. I like vista, but struggling to get games to work is beginning to suck.

[Ancient]

What are you talking about?? Driver model for Vista didn't change since Beta 2. There is no single excuse for Nvidia or Creative for not releasing decent drivers.
What I'm talking about is that the r600 is not out. You can't get one right now. Nobody can. Right now ATi doesn't have to worry about getting a brand new architecture running on a multitude of platforms as well as a new API (DX10) on a new OS. ATi can concentrate on the cards that have been out forever while they lollygag around releasing a next-gen that'll come out 6 months after NVIDIA released their next-gen card.

Besides that, how does the ATi cards run on TV-out or HD in Vista? How about in PowerDVD running an HD DVD or BD player? How's their HDCP support in Vista? There's more to drivers than just incorporating SLI/Crossfire and overclocking, much more.

[Ancient]

so its jan 30 and no new drivers today. I think i'll give them a week to come up with something and if not, i might go back to XP until i upgrade to a DX10 video card. I like vista, but struggling to get games to work is beginning to suck.
It's still the 29th here in the US.

[XxDeadlyxX]

As was just said, ATI don't have the slight obstacle of having to write for both new OS and new hardware all at the same time. nVidia on the other hand have to write for BOTH new hardware and new OS.

ATI could possibly be working on Vista r600 drivers right now too, but I dunno, I haven't seen an r600 in the store today, or yesterday. Wait, I haven't seen an r600 anywhere.

True, but I feel if R600 was released today, we'd suddenly have great nVidia Vista drivers :rolleyes:

[ahheadlock]

It's still the 29th here in the US.

ah ok cool, well here's hoping for tomorrow! (to be honest, i'm not expecting much).

[wid0wmaker]

two issues, digital vibrance resets to 0 after rebooting, and at least in ut2004, if the in game resloution isn't the same as the desktop, once i leave the game my video is scrambled and i have to reboot, and i've had that issue ever since RC1. also ut2004 performance isn't up to par yet.

[Ancient]

Guys... the report for Catalyst 7.1 on Vista..

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_performance_amd_catalyst_7.1/

Very very solid release.

In all cases basically there is little difference at all, 0-10%. If ATI can pull it off, why cant nVidia?

Performance on the ATI driver actually IMPROVES in some cases, I've yet to see our nVidia drivers 100.xx improve in any curcumstance on any game compared to XP.

Please nVidia release a good driver today/tomorrow.
I'm underwhelmed upon reading the article. OpenGL games run like crap so they didn't even include benchmarks for those. They also neglected running UT, a pretty popular DX game. I wonder why?

It's a release that can run the few games that FS bothered testing pretty well at this point. Sure doesn't compel me to jump ship though and it's not as if ATi has a fully functional, problem-free driver for Vista ready for release. If anything, ATi should be further along than NVIDIA since they don't have as much on their plate currently. That doesn't appear to be the case though. ATi's driver still has plenty of issues.

And, as the article mentions, NVIDIA should be releasing their SLI driver for Vista sometime later this evening.

[ahheadlock]

^ they look pretty good to me :) I'd be pretty happy if current forceware drivers performed as well as these catalysts right now.

[RanCorX2]

finally something to replace 97.46, these work great with CoH, smooth fps and faster than 97.46. i noticed the resolution options are back in the cpl, so nvidia are beginning to add stuff back :) thumbs up to .54's

[lukrad]

I don't understand how some people can protect Nvidia for not releasing decent drivers for Vista...you guys spend like $650 for God sake, and they freaking obligated to support a video card you bought...

[AdamK47]

I have Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit and a GeForce 8800GTX. I'll post issues with the games I own as I go along and test them.

Alien vs Predator Gold: Starting a new game causes the following error to display "Not enough video memory. Reduce video resolution."

Anachonox: Very slow framerate. (May be dual core related)

Battlefield 1942: Menus and crosshair do not display.

Battlefield Vietnam: Same as Battlefield 1942.

[XxDeadlyxX]

I don't understand how some people can protect Nvidia for not releasing decent drivers for Vista...you guys spend like $650 for God sake, and they freaking obligated to support a video card you bought...

QFT!!

[nekrosoft13]

Anachonox: Very slow framerate. (May be dual core related)

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i would say its caused by older version of directx, remmember older versions are emulated

[XxDeadlyxX]

Alien vs Predator Gold: Starting a new game causes the following error to display "Not enough video memory. Reduce video resolution."


HA! I advise you all to watch this video to see what MSFT hyped up the LDDM/VDDM driver model in 2004... shame it hasnt really turned out like that video shows :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZVAOrmvZsc

[Ancient]

I don't understand how some people can protect Nvidia for not releasing decent drivers for Vista...you guys spend like $650 for God sake, and they freaking obligated to support a video card you bought...
NVIDIA has released decent drivers for Vista. My nephew can play Quake 4 when he comes over. I can play HD DVDs on Vista using PowerDVD. I can use Vista MCE to watch and record TV. From reports in here, many of the DirectX games like FEAR and CoH run fine.

Are the drivers perfect? No. Is ATi's driver really any better because it runs a few select games well, and only DX games at that? That's mighty debateable.

Am I defending NVIDIA because I don't run into this thread and take a big stinky dump because some leaked drivers don't do everything exactly as I want them to do? Methinks you are distorting things a bit.

[AdamK47]

i would say its caused by older version of directx, remmember older versions are emulated

That would be impossible since the game is OpenGL.

[nekrosoft13]

That would be impossible since the game is OpenGL.

ok, then you answered your own question, everything running openGL is slow in vista