View Full Version : False and misleading prices on front page, please stop it.
moriarty99
01-28-07, 09:55 PM
Look, I know it's NOT your fault that the price listings you regularly post in the news sections change within a couple of hours, but at this point it's downright misleading and bad enough to totally kill my ability to trust this site's hardware adverts. Great examples are ALL over the front page of lame underpricing and then actually clicking on the link leads you to NOTHING in that price at all! Average is 50 or more dollars off!
Nvnews is a great site and all, but you need to step up and take responsability for your front page postings and FIX THEM. If you can't garuntee the price you post won't be there an hour later, don't post it, it makes you look like your helping these companies bait and switch. That's NOT how I think you want to look. Mike C. is the primary offender of this. Don't damn well post what you can't back up. I'm VERY tired of clicking your links to a supposed good price only to find it DOESN'T exist. Essentially, that is lying, evne if it's true for a few minutes, if you KNOW it won't stay that way, why post it? Making a link to this complaint over on the other forums I visit in case I get flamed/banned for pointing out a valid and solid point.
"BFG Technologies GeForce 8800 GTS Video Card from $359" - But here's what that posting leads to:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29053253/search=geforce+8800+gts
409, WTF is that??? 359 does NOT equal 409. That's almost criminal.
"MSI GeForce 8800GTX Video Card from $544" - But here's what that link leads to:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29294222/search=geforce+8800+gtx
574.99... Yeah, that's honest. BULLCRAP!
"Corsair XMS2 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 Memory from $196" - And again:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=11410908/skd=1/search=CORSAIR+XMS2+2GB+memorytarget=
235, hmmm, that doesn't sound very close. 30 bucks off and that one was posted YESTERDAY.
"eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX Video Card for $518" -What do I say?
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29159637
579.99. 60 dollars off. Are you doing this on purpose? If you were a business I'd report you to the BBB and file suit!
2 examples of MANY all over your front page. Terrible, just terrible. Absolutely kills credibility. Does the hits really matter that much that you would LIE to us to generate money like this? This is a serious accusation. This must be fixed.
Redeemed
01-28-07, 10:05 PM
Look, I know it's NOT your fault that the price listings you regularly post in the news sections change within a couple of hours, but at this point it's downright misleading and bad enough to totally kill my ability to trust this site's hardware adverts. Great examples are ALL over the front page of lame underpricing and then actually clicking on the link leads you to NOTHING in that price at all! Average is 50 or more dollars off!
Nvnews is a great site and all, but you need to step up and take responsability for your front page postings and FIX THEM. If you can't garuntee the price you post won't be there an hour later, don't post it, it makes you look like your helping these companies bait and switch. That's NOT how I think you want to look. Mike C. is the primary offender of this. Don't damn well post what you can't back up. I'm VERY tired of clicking your links to a supposed good price only to find it DOESN'T exist. Essentially, that is lying, evne if it's true for a few minutes, if you KNOW it won't stay that way, why post it? Making a link to this complaint over on the other forums I visit in case I get flamed/banned for pointing out a valid and solid point.
"BFG Technologies GeForce 8800 GTS Video Card from $359" - But here's what that posting leads to:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29053253/search=geforce+8800+gts
409, WTF is that??? 359 does NOT equal 409. That's almost criminal.
"MSI GeForce 8800GTX Video Card from $544" - But here's what that link leads to:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29294222/search=geforce+8800+gtx
574.99... Yeah, that's honest. BULLCRAP!
2 examples of MANY all over your front page. Terrible, just terrible. Absolutely kills credibility.
So why don't you volunteer your time to continually update the links?
I'm quite certian MikeC does not have the time to sit there all day making sure that the prices are 100% accurate.
There is NO problem in complaining or pointing out a very valid issue. The manner you've addressed isn't the most appropriate, however. Professionalism will always be more effective than angst filled rhetoric.
Other forums? Please don't do that. There is enough rivalry between forums that we don't need "complaint threads" spread around. We don't tolerate them at NVnews for that very reason.
Zelda_fan
01-28-07, 10:11 PM
you bring up a valid point, but the way you are talking I could really give a crap about your boohooing over prices.
Zelda_fan
01-28-07, 10:18 PM
And if you are so infuriated by this travesty, God gave you the ability to not visit nVNews and to not click on those links that upset you so much.
lol I don't think anyone is going to miss you on the way out.
moriarty99
01-28-07, 10:27 PM
Sorry, but you can call this complaining, but fact is it's accusation of a CRIME in most states. False and misleading statements like this have plagued this industry forever and I know it won't go away anytime soon. But my angst is rightful ANGER over having been clicking these stupid links and NOT finding what Mike C. advertises. And yeah, I could do TWICE the job in that department that he is. And I'll putmy money where my mouth is, can the staff here do the same right now? No, right now thier credibility is HIGHLY in question. And posting to other forums ensures this crime doesn't get swept under the rug by flamers and mods.
moriarty99
01-28-07, 10:28 PM
And if you are so infuriated by this travesty, God gave you the ability to not visit nVNews and to not click on those links that upset you so much.
lol I don't think anyone is going to miss you on the way out.
Of course not. People like you have to defend the criminal behavior because you have been ALLOWING it. This is ugly, pure and simple, and your weak attempt to make me walk away only proves what I just said.
Sorry, but you can call this complaining, but fact is it's accusation of a CRIME in most states. False and misleading statements like this have plagued this industry forever and I know it won't go away anytime soon. But my angst is rightful ANGER over having been clicking these stupid links and NOT finding what Mike C. advertises. And yeah, I could do TWICE the job in that department that he is. And I'll putmy money where my mouth is, can the staff here do the same right now? No, right now thier credibility is HIGHLY in question. And posting to other forums ensures this crime doesn't get swept under the rug by flamers and mods.
1. MikeC isn't researching each price. If you've got a problem with the prices listed, take it up with Pricegrabber.com, the search engine that's bringing back those hits. Search engines aren't perfect and its supposed to be more of a "helping hand" to those who are interested.
2. Do you think this site is making much money, if any? This isn't MikeC's job. He's kind enough to provide us with a decent site and forums and probably doesn't get enough cash in ad revenue to even keep the site running. That means that its coming out of his pocket. He's got a job and a family that come first, so if he can't verify each price that the Pricegrabber search engine brings back...I think you can cut him some slack.
moriarty99
01-28-07, 10:33 PM
1. MikeC isn't researching each price. If you've got a problem with the prices listed, take it up with Pricegrabber.com, the search engine that's bringing back those hits. Search engines aren't perfect and its supposed to be more of a "helping hand" to those who are interested.
2. Do you think this site is making much money, if any? This isn't MikeC's job. He's kind enough to provide us with a decent site and forums and probably doesn't get enough cash in ad revenue to even keep the site running. That means that its coming out of his pocket. He's got a job and a family that come first, so if he can't verify each price that the Pricegrabber search engine brings back...I think you can cut him some slack.
I have a job and a family too. And I take enough pride IN WHAT I DO to make sure it's accurate. If he can't ensure that accuracy or at LEAST attempt to clean up after himself, no, I won't cut any slack. If he can't do the job right, he needs to get somebody who can. Period.
Of course not. People like you have to defend the criminal behavior because you have been ALLOWING it. This is ugly, pure and simple, and your weak attempt to make me walk away only proves what I just said.
You came in here with both guns blazing being an ass. You could have PMed him and he probably would have taken care of it no questions asked. He's a nice guy, but if you come storming in raising hell you're not going to get anything done but get yourself banned.
I have a job and a family too. And I take enough pride IN WHAT I DO to make sure it's accurate. If he can't ensure that accuracy or at LEAST attempt to clean up after himself, no, I won't cut any slack. If he can't do the job right, you need to get somebody who can. Period.
:headexplode:
Redeemed
01-28-07, 10:51 PM
Sorry, but you can call this complaining, but fact is it's accusation of a CRIME in most states. False and misleading statements like this have plagued this industry forever and I know it won't go away anytime soon. But my angst is rightful ANGER over having been clicking these stupid links and NOT finding what Mike C. advertises. And yeah, I could do TWICE the job in that department that he is. And I'll putmy money where my mouth is, can the staff here do the same right now? No, right now thier credibility is HIGHLY in question. And posting to other forums ensures this crime doesn't get swept under the rug by flamers and mods.
I have a job and a family too. And I take enough pride IN WHAT I DO to make sure it's accurate. If he can't ensure that accuracy or at LEAST attempt to clean up after himself, no, I won't cut any slack. If he can't do the job right, he needs to get somebody who can. Period.
Good. Now kindly PM Mike and you can become the official nVnews price-listing-varifier. :p
Bearclaw
01-28-07, 11:29 PM
Sorry, but you can call this complaining, but fact is it's accusation of a CRIME in most states. False and misleading statements like this have plagued this industry forever and I know it won't go away anytime soon. But my angst is rightful ANGER over having been clicking these stupid links and NOT finding what Mike C. advertises. And yeah, I could do TWICE the job in that department that he is. And I'll putmy money where my mouth is, can the staff here do the same right now? No, right now thier credibility is HIGHLY in question. And posting to other forums ensures this crime doesn't get swept under the rug by flamers and mods.
Listen, if it's such a problem to you then leave. There's a million other pc hardware sites. If this one doesn't suit your fancy then just leave.
Zelda_fan
01-28-07, 11:39 PM
Sorry, but you can call this complaining, but fact is it's accusation of a CRIME in most states. False and misleading statements like this have plagued this industry forever and I know it won't go away anytime soon. But my angst is rightful ANGER over having been clicking these stupid links and NOT finding what Mike C. advertises. And yeah, I could do TWICE the job in that department that he is. And I'll putmy money where my mouth is, can the staff here do the same right now? No, right now thier credibility is HIGHLY in question. And posting to other forums ensures this crime doesn't get swept under the rug by flamers and mods.
criminal behavior? lmfao. You don't know JACK **** about the law little boy. I'd love to see you try to actually do something about it. If you get this pissy about a measly $60, I'd love to see your jaw drop at a lawyer bill.
Zelda_fan
01-28-07, 11:40 PM
I have a job and a family too. And I take enough pride IN WHAT I DO to make sure it's accurate. If he can't ensure that accuracy or at LEAST attempt to clean up after himself, no, I won't cut any slack. If he can't do the job right, he needs to get somebody who can. Period.
lmao, the thing you fail to realize is that no one other than you really gives a crap. So go ahead and throw a temper tantrum, but just realize that you are alone in doing it.
Zelda_fan
01-28-07, 11:41 PM
hey dOOdZ!!! i WiiLL pOsT a LiNk @ oThEr fOrUmS & wE wiiLL pUt & eNdz 2 eViL mIkEC!!
Redeemed
01-28-07, 11:51 PM
hey dOOdZ!!! i WiiLL pOsT a LiNk @ oThEr fOrUmS & wE wiiLL pUt & eNdz 2 eViL mIkEC!!
lol
|MaguS|
01-29-07, 12:05 AM
Of course not. People like you have to defend the criminal behavior because you have been ALLOWING it. This is ugly, pure and simple, and your weak attempt to make me walk away only proves what I just said.
Your a ****ing tool.
moriarty99
01-29-07, 12:43 AM
Your a ****ing tool.
Ah, flames to defend a wrong so your allowance of it can be ignored. You call me a troll while cussing and name calling. Lovely, grow up child, learn how to play with the adults.
moriarty99
01-29-07, 12:47 AM
lmao, the thing you fail to realize is that no one other than you really gives a crap. So go ahead and throw a temper tantrum, but just realize that you are alone in doing it.
Nvnews's provider and host may care that the site they're hosting is commiting fraud and not attempting to fix it.
moriarty99
01-29-07, 12:52 AM
lmao, the thing you fail to realize is that no one other than you really gives a crap. So go ahead and throw a temper tantrum, but just realize that you are alone in doing it.
Not so alone as you think, my poorly spoken flaming friend. The word is out. This needs to be fixed and your weak willed, poor excuse of morals won't impede that.
tacos4me
01-29-07, 01:17 AM
Look, I know it's NOT your fault that the price listings you regularly post in the news sections change within a couple of hours, but at this point it's downright misleading and bad enough to totally kill my ability to trust this site's hardware adverts. Great examples are ALL over the front page of lame underpricing and then actually clicking on the link leads you to NOTHING in that price at all! Average is 50 or more dollars off!
Nvnews is a great site and all, but you need to step up and take responsability for your front page postings and FIX THEM. If you can't garuntee the price you post won't be there an hour later, don't post it, it makes you look like your helping these companies bait and switch. That's NOT how I think you want to look. Mike C. is the primary offender of this. Don't damn well post what you can't back up. I'm VERY tired of clicking your links to a supposed good price only to find it DOESN'T exist. Essentially, that is lying, evne if it's true for a few minutes, if you KNOW it won't stay that way, why post it? Making a link to this complaint over on the other forums I visit in case I get flamed/banned for pointing out a valid and solid point.
"BFG Technologies GeForce 8800 GTS Video Card from $359" - But here's what that posting leads to:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29053253/search=geforce+8800+gts
409, WTF is that??? 359 does NOT equal 409. That's almost criminal.
"MSI GeForce 8800GTX Video Card from $544" - But here's what that link leads to:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29294222/search=geforce+8800+gtx
574.99... Yeah, that's honest. BULLCRAP!
"Corsair XMS2 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 Memory from $196" - And again:
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=11410908/skd=1/search=CORSAIR+XMS2+2GB+memorytarget=
235, hmmm, that doesn't sound very close. 30 bucks off and that one was posted YESTERDAY.
"eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX Video Card for $518" -What do I say?
http://nvnews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=29159637
579.99. 60 dollars off. Are you doing this on purpose? If you were a business I'd report you to the BBB and file suit!
2 examples of MANY all over your front page. Terrible, just terrible. Absolutely kills credibility. Does the hits really matter that much that you would LIE to us to generate money like this? This is a serious accusation. This must be fixed.
:rofl
They look fine to me, buddy. Guess you got what you wished for. Now do yourself a favor and go outside. Right now.
I think the guy is going to try to sue Google next, since when you use it's Froogle search the prices can be wrong!!! Shame!!!
Nvnews's provider and host may care that the site they're hosting is commiting fraud and not attempting to fix it.
pleast do tell what your going to do about it?....how about your behavour of trying to commit a crime yourself, what your doing is trying to force a service proivider to commit a denial of service to someone that doesnt provide a service and makes now claims of accuracy and in fact isnt even providing the service themselves....so please before you go around claiming something you have no idea about get your fact straight....i bet your the kind of guys that calls the cops on your neighbors claiming they stole your garbage cans on a windy day.
A101Sugar
01-29-07, 01:36 AM
finally some1 commented on this....
I have no problem with it, becuase now I just ignore all of it...
but the point of listing a really low price is so more ppl click and open the link which equals more page views and more traffic ... which equals more money paid to nvnews.net because more ppl go to pricegrabber :)
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