DVD and video playback on LCD HDTV

[RupertBanana]

If I have a 32in HDTV LCD with a 1366x768 native resolution, and I try and watch a DVD or a video file from my PC,.... what resolution will the media be displayed at, ie, will it be at the files own resolution, or will the TV enlarge it to fill the screen?

[superklye]

Your TV should allow you to stretch the picture to take up the full 16:9 aspect ratio if you're viewing a 4:3 source, but why you'd want to do that is beyond me.

[Bman212121]

If I have a 32in HDTV LCD with a 1366x768 native resolution, and I try and watch a DVD or a video file from my PC,.... what resolution will the media be displayed at, ie, will it be at the files own resolution, or will the TV enlarge it to fill the screen?

it will most likely be at whatever rest your player outputs. Most tvs don't upscale the video, so it will most likely be in 480i. (It just streches the image to fit the screen.) If you get a newer dvd player, you can probably find one that does 480p or can upscale the picture to whatever you want.

[RupertBanana]

Your TV should allow you to stretch the picture to take up the full 16:9 aspect ratio if you're viewing a 4:3 source, but why you'd want to do that is beyond me.

If a DVD is 720x480{NTSC} or 720x576{PAL}, then you run it on a 720p moniter, does the image lose it's clarity?
When you run a low resolution video file at 100%, it's looks tight, but if you run it at 200%, it looks grainy......is this what will happen to a DVD on a 720p HDTV, or will the upscale maintain picture quality?

[RupertBanana]

it will most likely be at whatever rest your player outputs. Most tvs don't upscale the video, so it will most likely be in 480i. (It just streches the image to fit the screen.) If you get a newer dvd player, you can probably find one that does 480p or can upscale the picture to whatever you want.

I'm using my Lite-On DVD burner for DVD playback on my existing 19in CRT.....and DVD's look great, but they're at 1:1 pixel ratio aren't they?

So if the HDTV can't upscale, then won't a stretched DVD lose PQ?

I'm assuimg that stretched means "double or increase size, but lose PQ"
I'm assuming that upscale means.."double or increase size, but maintain PQ via the TV's video processor".

[Bman212121]

I'm using my Lite-On DVD burner for DVD playback on my existing 19in CRT.....and DVD's look great, but they're at 1:1 pixel ratio aren't they?

So if the HDTV can't upscale, then won't a stretched DVD lose PQ?

I'm assuimg that stretched means "double or increase size, but lose PQ"
I'm assuming that upscale means.."double or increase size, but maintain PQ via the TV's video processor".

I probably can't give you the best definition, but in the context of how I was referring to it, is that streching is like taking a magnifing glass to zoom the picture, you are still using the same number of pixels to create the image, and thus it appears jaggy and not very crisp. If you use an upscaler, the device adds in extra pixels to the image, to help smooth out the image. The source file may be low, but the upscaler tries to improve the picture by blending in extra pixels into the image. I'm not sure if that is the "correct" definition of how it does it, but it is something to that effect.

[RupertBanana]

I probably can't give you the best definition, but in the context of how I was referring to it, is that streching is like taking a magnifing glass to zoom the picture, you are still using the same number of pixels to create the image, and thus it appears jaggy and not very crisp. If you use an upscaler, the device adds in extra pixels to the image, to help smooth out the image. The source file may be low, but the upscaler tries to improve the picture by blending in extra pixels into the image. I'm not sure if that is the "correct" definition of how it does it, but it is something to that effect.

Ok, based on that, stretching an image sux, but upscaling is fine.
At this stage, I'm just planning on getting a 32-40inch LCD HDTV for my PC, so that means I'll still be using my PC's DVD player......as such, I need to make sure that the TV can upscale DVD and 576i/576p content otherwise the image quality will be laughable{I have a HDTV capture card as well}

I thought your explanation was excellent btw.

I guess the new 40inch Samsung 1920x1080 LCD HDTV's would have to have built in upscale circuitry, otherwise even a 720p broadcast would look small @1:1 pixels....ie, 1280x720p.

[GamerGuyX]

Buy into either Blu-ray and/or HD DVD and you won't have to worry about movies looking like crap on your LCD HDTV.

[RupertBanana]

Buy into either Blu-ray and/or HD DVD and you won't have to worry about movies looking like crap on your LCD HDTV.

What if one of the formats goes under?
Also, my DVD player doubles as a recorder.

I was hoping to buy a HDTV LCD monitor and use it for my PC, gaming and HDTV viewing.

[evilchris]

What if one of the formats goes under?
Also, my DVD player doubles as a recorder.

I was hoping to buy a HDTV LCD monitor and use it for my PC, gaming and HDTV viewing.

If one goes under the movies will still work. They won't self destruct.

[RupertBanana]

If one goes under the movies will still work. They won't self destruct.

I'm not into gambling on over-rated and lowly spec gadgets.

In Australia, these are the price points......{all in $AUD}

Bray player=$1500
HD DVD player=$1000
Panasonic DVD recorder with 160gig HDD+integrated SD tuner=$700.
Panasonic DVD recorder with 160gig HDD+analog tuner=$500
Samsung DVD recorder+ NO HDD=$200

Now, why on earth would I buy either a Bray or HD DVD player?

[GamerGuyX]

Now, why on earth would I buy either a Bray or HD DVD player?

I don't know what a "Bray" player is but I do know that a Blu-ray and/or HD DVD player would give you the absolute finest presentation a movie can give you.

That is unless you prefer 720x640 resolution over 1920x1080. :rolleyes:

[RupertBanana]

I don't know what a "Bray" player is but I do know that a Blu-ray and/or HD DVD player would give you the absolute finest presentation a movie can give you.

That is unless you prefer 720x640 resolution over 1920x1080. :rolleyes:

Congratulations, more mindless arrogance from keyboard warriors who probably aren't even out of high-school, and are free to fantasize about the latest and greatest consumer gear:thumbdwn:

[Toss3]

If I have a 32in HDTV LCD with a 1366x768 native resolution, and I try and watch a DVD or a video file from my PC,.... what resolution will the media be displayed at, ie, will it be at the files own resolution, or will the TV enlarge it to fill the screen?
Okey so let me get this straight, you want to connect your pc to your TV and watch a DVD on the pc? So you're basically using the lcd tv as a monitor?

And if this is what you're planning on doing the only question you should be asking is whether the picture on your TV will show up correctly, as in 1:1 pixel mapping. So the resolution of the movie in question won't really matter as you'll be able to stretch to fit the screen whatever the quality. :) It will work just as any pc monitor out there. Hope this helped! :)

[RupertBanana]

Okey so let me get this straight, you want to connect your pc to your TV and watch a DVD on the pc? So you're basically using the lcd tv as a monitor?

And if this is what you're planning on doing the only question you should be asking is whether the picture on your TV will show up correctly, as in 1:1 pixel mapping. So the resolution of the movie in question won't really matter as you'll be able to stretch to fit the screen whatever the quality. :) It will work just as any pc monitor out there. Hope this helped! :)

Well yeah....I was under the impression that if one played a DVD on a HDTV monitor, that the DVD would still look fairly good because the monitor upscaled the media{where upscaling means...:add more pixels to closely match the HDTV's native resolution}.....however, if it merely doubled the image like you can do with WMP11, then presumably, the image quality would degrade...?

For example, if you have a video file @ 320x240, you can use WMP11 to play it @ 100% or 200%, but @ 200% it doesn't look as sharp, although it's a larger image.

I don't mind the idea of having 1:1 pixel mapping, but if the files resolution is relatively low, then it would look tiny on a 13x768 screen wouldn't it?

[GamerGuyX]

Congratulations, more mindless arrogance from keyboard warriors who probably aren't even out of high-school, and are free to fantasize about the latest and greatest consumer gear:thumbdwn:

Actually I have bought everything I own with money I've earned from my job.

Imagine that huh?

[Toss3]

Well yeah....I was under the impression that if one played a DVD on a HDTV monitor, that the DVD would still look fairly good because the monitor upscaled the media{where upscaling means...:add more pixels to closely match the HDTV's native resolution}.....however, if it merely doubled the image like you can do with WMP11, then presumably, the image quality would degrade...?

For example, if you have a video file @ 320x240, you can use WMP11 to play it @ 100% or 200%, but @ 200% it doesn't look as sharp, although it's a larger image.

I don't mind the idea of having 1:1 pixel mapping, but if the files resolution is relatively low, then it would look tiny on a 13x768 screen wouldn't it?
Well I wouldn't exactly call it tiny, but it won't be hd-dvd quality that's for sure. Your computer is the one doing the upscaling when you use the screen as a monitor, so the quality depends on drivers gpu etc..
Stretching a DVD to that resolution won't really make such a huge difference, but I'd say it would look better if you just got a dvd player with a built in upscaler and hdmi out.
Just connect the pc to your TV and judge for yourself, I've found that watching DVDs on my comp really doesn't look that bad.

:captnkill:

[RupertBanana]

Well I wouldn't exactly call it tiny, but it won't be hd-dvd quality that's for sure. Your computer is the one doing the upscaling when you use the screen as a monitor, so the quality depends on drivers gpu etc..
Stretching a DVD to that resolution won't really make such a huge difference, but I'd say it would look better if you just got a dvd player with a built in upscaler and hdmi out.
Just connect the pc to your TV and judge for yourself, I've found that watching DVDs on my comp really doesn't look that bad.

:captnkill:

Ok no worries.....I'm just collecting some basic facts at the moment, but I want to build a fairly beefy PC because I "cap" and share media with my net buddies.

[RupertBanana]

Actually I have bought everything I own with money I've earned from my job.

Imagine that huh?

WOW, that's exciting Gameyguy.....you must be all of 23 and super-rich, LOLOL.

[GamerGuyX]

WOW, that's exciting Gameyguy.....you must be all of 23 and super-rich, LOLOL.

Who said anything about being rich?

Oh right, that was you , you poor mother****er.

[RupertBanana]

Who said anything about being rich?

Oh right, that was you , you poor mother****er.

Listen champ.....everyone reading this can tell you're just a punk, so why not disengage whilst your testicals are still intact.

[GamerGuyX]

Listen champ.....everyone reading this can tell you're just a punk, so why not disengage whilst your testicals are still intact.

Says the brainless half-wit who's ego is to big to take suggestions from anything but his own imagination.

[RupertBanana]

Says the brainless half-wit who's ego is to big to take suggestions from anything but his own imagination.

Truth is dummy, you're a smartass hiding behind his keyboard.....you're also likely to be a nerdy type, ie, glasses, skinny, appalling dress sense, appalling hairstyle, and insecure around women and people in general.

Strong, mature and rational people don't feel the need to act like hero's, especially from the vantage point of their PC.

If you have nothing positive or on topic to add, then I suggest you crawl away and digest the painful truths I've deduced about you.....and btw, please don't fire back with some nonsense about being 6ft and macho, unless you plan to offer verifiable photographic evidence.

[betterdan]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/whocares4.jpg

[GamerGuyX]

If you have nothing positive or on topic to add, then I suggest you crawl away and digest the painful truths I've deduced about you.....and btw, please don't fire back with some nonsense about being 6ft and macho, unless you plan to offer verifiable photographic evidence.

The truth is, I gave you a suggestion. You didn't like it or want to accept it.

I suggest you learn how to live with pathetic excuse for a life because your not bringing me down with you.

EDIT: The first bit of advice I have for a lowlife like you is to get a job.