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mullet
02-07-07, 01:05 AM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2

ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965

CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1142 CL5

Western Digital Raptor WD360ADFD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 (x2 Raid0)

SILVERSTONE ST85F ATX12V / EPS12V 850W Power Supply (+3.3V@25A,+5V@30A,+12V1@35A,+12V2@35A,
-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A) PCI-E Connectors 4 x 6Pin PCI-E
2 x 8Pin PCI-E

ZALMAN 9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

Video card after I see the R600, I'll probably end up getting a 8800GTX. Also no SLI.

Any suggestions please. TY

stevemedes
02-07-07, 01:07 AM
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2

ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965

CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 CL3

Western Digital Raptor WD360ADFD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 (2x Raid0)

SILVERSTONE ST85F ATX12V / EPS12V 850W Power Supply (+3.3V@25A,+5V@30A,+12V1@35A,+12V2@35A,
-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A) PCI-E Connectors 4 x 6Pin PCI-E
2 x 8Pin PCI-E

ZALMAN 9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

Video card after I see the R600.

Any suggestions please. TY

I'm likin all your choices there. You probably could get a diff brand of memory with D9 chips for cheaper. Your rig is eerily similar to mine, lol, which is a good thing. Nice PSU :)

mullet
02-07-07, 01:12 AM
Thanks I was thinking about the CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1142 CL5, its cheaper but not after I buy the $19.95 fans. I don't know how far I can push the DDR2 800 CL3 to though.

I got the CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1142 CL5, I just pulled the trigger @ newegg its on the way. I couldn't wait.

john19055
02-07-07, 05:52 AM
I would just get the PC6400C4D ,I have the Evga 680i SLI and the ASUS 650i SLI and the 650i will go a lot farther on the CPU FSB,I can do 510 or 2040 on 650i ,but the memory tops out at around 1000,i could do 1020 stable but that about it ,but with the Evga 680i SLI ,it tops out at 1650 ,but you can run the memory a lot higher on the 680i SLI I could run it at 1200 but there was'nt really any gains in performance running it that high ,I seem to get the best performance by running them at a 1:1 ratio so you haveing the E6600 don't except to be able to run 2132 at a 1:1 ratio like 533(1066) with a multipler of 7 ,it just will not run that high .I don't no how high the ASUS P5B Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P965 FSB will run,but I am just saying running a high memory of 1200mhz is not much of a difference from running some slower and cheaper memory of 800mhz in game performance.the best way to run it is to find out how far you can overclock the E6600 and then run the memory in a 1:1 ratio.

Dr.Nick
02-08-07, 11:42 AM
Good hardware choices but if you plan on OCing I would avoid any Zalman hsf. Save yourself some money and get a much better performing and a much quieter Scyth. The Infinity is a great buy.

mullet
02-08-07, 12:51 PM
I have used Zalman for years, I know its a long shot but I will give the 9700 a try. :D

Xion X2
02-08-07, 01:26 PM
Do not go with the ST85F. The Zeus (Etasis) is much, much better quality. They are actually made by two separate plants.

On top of that, you do NOT want a dual-rail PSU. They are poorly, poorly optimized for gaming performance as the first 12v rail is almost always dedicated to nothing but the processor and can't be used to power your graphics or anything but.

Go with the ST85ZF that I have. Quad-rail, 18A on each and 3 of them can be used for graphics (54A combined) This here will fill you in a little on the differences between them.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=15

mullet
02-08-07, 01:30 PM
hmm well its already ordered so to late. So the 2 12 rails @ 35A isn't good?

Xion X2
02-08-07, 01:35 PM
In general, no. There are a few dual-rail PSU's that balance the rails properly should you need more juice, but most of them don't. Most of them will dedicate one entire 12v rail to nothing but your processor, which would leave you with ~35A left over in this case.

You should be fine on one 8800GTX, but how much headroom you have after that is anyone's guess.

mullet
02-08-07, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the link, so I have a tier2 PSU then?

Xion X2
02-08-07, 01:45 PM
The quality's not what's in question, really, although the Zeus is quite a bit better. Silverstone PSU's are among the best there is. It's the rail design where there's a problem.

Multi-rail power-supplies are designed so that your system will always be able to function at the most basic level. To do this, they dedicate an entire rail to nothing but your processor (this assures no other components will steal its power).

The problem with that, is, that dual-rails leave you with only one availiable rail to run the rest of your components off of (meaning your total amps--70 in your case--get halved into 35.)

But like I said, maybe (hopefully) the rails will balance properly and leave you with enough amps that you'll have some expandability on that PSU in the future. Good luck.

mullet
02-08-07, 01:48 PM
The quality's not what's in question, really, although the Zeus is quite a bit better. Silverstone PSU's are among the best there is. It's the rail design where there's a problem.

Multi-rail power-supplies are designed so that your system will always be able to function at the most basic level. To do this, they dedicate an entire rail to nothing but your processor (this assures no other components will steal its power).

The problem with that, is, that dual-rails leave you with only one availiable rail to run the rest of your components off of (meaning your total amps--70 in your case--get halved into 35.)

But like I said, maybe (hopefully) the rails will balance properly and leave you with enough amps that you'll have some expandability on that PSU in the future. Good luck.

Thanks I read this review is why I picked it.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?type=3&id=157&page=4&desc=silverstone_strider_850w_st85f_psu
With 850w on tap and two high-amperage +12v rails, there is no reason why the ST85F wouldn't be capable of powering any kind of high-end SLI or Crossfire configuration. For this reason Silverstone have included 2x PCI-E cables, each with 2 further PCI-E connectors 'piggy-backed' to give support for the latest line of 8800GTX GPU's. Also included in the box with the ST85F are two 8-Pin PCI-E cables in a similar configuration, for compatibility with future PCI-E cards.

Xion X2
02-08-07, 01:55 PM
With 850w on tap and two high-amperage +12v rails, there is no reason why the ST85F wouldn't be capable of powering any kind of high-end SLI or Crossfire configuration. For this reason Silverstone have included 2x PCI-E cables, each with 2 further PCI-E connectors 'piggy-backed' to give support for the latest line of 8800GTX GPU's. Also included in the box with the ST85F are two 8-Pin PCI-E cables in a similar configuration, for compatibility with future PCI-E cards.

Wow.. just .. wow. :)

Suffice to say, that unless that's a new dual-rail design from Silverstone that will balance the rails differently than in the past, that those guys @ Overclock3D don't have a clue as to what they're talking about. An 8800GTX SLI setup would really be pushing that PSU. In fact, I have sincere doubts it would work if it abides by the same dual-rail design as the following:

This power supply has a pair of +12V rails, each set to do 20A. The combined 12V capability is 336W, or 28A.

What this typically means is that you can put as much as 20A on each 12V rail, but never more than a total of 28A on both at the same time.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=31

That's a review on the mushkin dual-rail that even exceeds the design of most dual-rail PSU's on the market (most won't feed any leftover juice off the 12v1 at all). The specs are very misleading.. dual-rails can never pull as many amps as are advertised.

Along with that, I've personally witnessed three dual-rail PSU's fail under heavy load on the 2nd 12v rail because they were starved for power. Most of the time they just do not balance properly.

In your case, I sincerely hope it turns out to be a good PSU. I'm not trying to be argumentative with you--just trying to lay the facts out there so everyone will know. :)

mullet
02-08-07, 02:02 PM
No no I really thank ya the facts are the facts. I will not be doing SLI or crossfire at all, I would rather just have 1 badass card. I really thought this was going to be overkill for what I was doing. I see how having 4 rails would be a bonus in more ways then one. Thanks again man I wish I would have had this info before I got everything. owell

Xion X2
02-08-07, 02:05 PM
Well, the good thing is that it's still overkill for a single GTX. It just doesn't allow you nearly as much headroom as a single, tri or quad rail PSU would for the future.

But don't feel bad. There was a time that I didn't know any better, either. The three examples of failure I offered before were me and two buddies of mine. :)