8 Series AGP?

[Zelda_fan]

There is no AGP motherboard that can support a processor that will be needed to run DX10 games.

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There is no AGP motherboard that can support a processor that will be needed to run DX10 games.

Not necessarily true. Back when s939 first appeared the standard was AGP. Thus, people using NF3 based mobo's (or VIA's chipset, K8T800 I believe it was) could probalby get by with an X2 or maybe even an Opty. And I'm sure it'd work just fine.

But, in all honesty, I'm betting from now on AGP will become more and more like PCI is now. Cards will still be available- but they'll be at best "mainstream" cards. And the more time passes, the more "lowend" AGP will become as well.

Heck, where I work we still sell FX 5200 in the PCI flavor. We even offer a 9250 in PCI. So, I'm sure AGP will still be around, but it'll no longer recieve "high-end" GPUs. I'll be very shocked to see any sort of 8800 or X2800+ for AGP.

[ReDxKiNG]

There is no AGP motherboard that can support a processor that will be needed to run DX10 games.

Wrong....My board is living proof of that :D
Asrock 775DUAL-VSTA FTW...I am running it as we speak with a Core2Duo and 7800gs and I am pretty sure that a C2D will suffice for a DX10 game for now...

[Uberpwnage]

Wrong....My board is living proof of that
Asrock 775DUAL-VSTA FTW...I am running it as we speak with a Core2Duo and 7800gs and I am pretty sure that a C2D will suffice for a DX10 game for now...

You also have a PCI-E slot, which works with most PCI-E cards.

[Redeemed]

You also have a PCI-E slot, which works with most PCI-E cards.

:lol2:

Somebody just got pwned. :p

[CaiNaM]

Because this isn't supposed to happen. Former ATi has always played second fiddle to what nVidia has done in the past. Always coming in second and trying to copy what nVidia did. nVidia releases a card and former ATi is slow to come out of the gate. Now we have AMD with their X1950 PRO AGP 8x first and suddenly nVidia decides to respond with an AGP card.

In my opinion this takes away from what nVidia has been doing for the past 5 years, which is innovation and cutting edge. Spending resources on years old technology just to respond in kind so that their market share in the AGP segment doesn't drop to AMD doesn't make sense to me.

Sound like a board room meeting in the higher ups where they realized they suddenly had some leeway upon hearing R600 delays and then putting their efforts into taking away market share from AMD in other areas.

well, "the last 5 years" is certianly overly optimistic.. ati certainly did not play "second fiddle" for pretty much the entire product cycle of r3xx; that title belonged to nvidia. while nvidia caught up with nv40 and after, ati still had a competitive, and arguably superior, product line.

imo, nvidia's release of the g80 is akin to ati's release of the r300, and it's good for everyone regardless of whether they are fanboy's or not. it raises the bar.

same can be said for ati's agp offerings. the reality is there is a market there. if ati wants to take the initiative and pursue that market, good for them, and good for us. that nvidia appears to have taken an interest in that market (rumored dx10 agp offerings) again makes it all that much better for the consumers in that market - everyone benefits.

[ReDxKiNG]

:lol2:

Somebody just got pwned. :p


not really...if you assclowns :p knew what u were talking about you would know that this board has only a 4X PCI-E slot so OBVIOUSLY a card such as the 8800 will be bottlnecked to hell and i would be severly limiting its performance and their would be no point in putting that type of card in my system so for a dx10 solution the AGP card is PERFECT for my needs


Now who is pwned

[Redeemed]

not really...if you assclowns :p knew what u were talking about you would know that this board has only a 4X PCI-E slot so OBVIOUSLY a card such as the 8800 will be bottlnecked to hell and i would be severly limiting its performance and their would be no point in putting that type of card in my system so for a dx10 solution the AGP card is PERFECT for my needs


Now who is pwned

Mind if I ask the size of and the native resolution of your monitor?

[ReDxKiNG]

Mind if I ask the size of and the native resolution of your monitor?


19in ViewSonic 1912WB 1440x900

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19in ViewSonic 1912WB 1440x900

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/valueseries/va1903wb/index.htm#specs

^^^Not a bad little monitor. Now let me ask you, what levels of AA are you using? Be specific. Also, is this in conjuction with HDR (are you using HDR+AA where applicable in other words)?

[Quick420]

You would do well to upgrade istead of staying behind.The theorectical differerence in bandwidth is double between agp and pci-e.The extra money an agp version will cost over a pci-e version will almost buy you a new pci-e board and the system will be much better for 3d-use(gaming)

[sammy sung]

Now we have AMD with their X1950 PRO AGP 8x first and suddenly nVidia decides to respond with an AGP card.



Hmm first you say ,Gainwards 7800 gs +agp with a 7900gt core and 24 pipelines plus 512mb ram came out like 6 months ago.Ofc it wasnt easy to find but it blew every other agp card out of the water and holds its own vs the 1950 pro.Sure it was a non-reference design and the 1950 will be available in larger numbers but it still doesnt make it first.Gainward made 2 versions of the 512mb card,the one above and a 7800gt core with 20 pipelines,wich my retailer still have in stock.The plus model is sadly sold out ,it retailed for around 20 $ more then the non plus models Roughly 300$


http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.asp?sku=328444&view=detailed

in english from the uk branch of the same retailer

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=328444

[Joe Public]

Well, as you say, the 7800GS+ was a Gainward and not nVidia initiative. So technically, he's right. Anyways, it's too pricey compared to what you get. (unless you're a *nix user and need the greater compatibility with that OS platform).

[Toss3]

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37790

Might be hope yet !
If you ask me, this is a good move by NVidia. They could make a lot of money from the leagcy upgrade market with this.
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4704

According to our sources, there will not be any AGP versions for GeForce 8 series because simply it can't support. Therefore all DX10 G80, G84 and G86 cards will be PCI Express based. Also NVIDIA has not revealed the official marketing name for G84 and G86 yet but there will be 2 SKUs for G84 and one SKU for G86 at launch. G84GTS (G84-300) and G84GT (G84-400) are slated for launch in April while G86 (G86-300) will launch later in May. Interesting, G86-300 is 128-bit like the G84 while the rest of the G86 variants are 64-bit.

No 8-series agp card after all...

[Treason]

PHEW! That was a close call.

Now nVidia can coast all the way to June with the cards they have right now.

[akarpo]

VR-Zone is trash. Certain faked Crysis benchmarks come to mind. 8600 AGP cards for the win! :D

[Admiral Horror]

If not 8 series, then perhaps at least 7900GS and 7950GT in AGP?

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-1830-view-GeForce-7900-GS-and-GeForce-7950-GT-AGP-version.html