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dwhjr77
02-12-07, 09:07 PM
Thinking about picking this up. I play EQ2 since launch, but I want another MMO to play...too late?

|MaguS|
02-12-07, 09:08 PM
get vangaurds :)

dwhjr77
02-12-07, 09:10 PM
I was thinking about that one and just adding it to my station pass for like an extra 6 bucks a month, but I can't find any reviews and such on the game.

crainger
02-12-07, 09:11 PM
I've wondered about this too. I've never even played an MMO before. My plan is to get online with my mate and have him patiently help me through the early parts.

|MaguS|
02-12-07, 09:11 PM
its buggy and plays slow as hell but its fun and the world is new and huge...


mate and him? (gay)

crainger
02-12-07, 09:15 PM
its buggy and plays slow as hell but its fun and the world is new and huge...


mate and him? (gay)

Oh blow it out ya rear!

|MaguS|
02-12-07, 09:17 PM
Oh blow it out ya rear!

oh you would like that wouldn't you...

crainger
02-12-07, 09:19 PM
oh you would like that wouldn't you...

You see right through me. :wonder:

dwhjr77
02-12-07, 09:22 PM
Ack...station pass is 25 a month now. I thought it was 21 before. Oh well. Going on EQ2 to see if my guild can give me a buddy pass to the vanguard game.

Also, you are saying to pass on WoW. I honestly don't want to end up playin Vanguard to find out it's another EQ2. What are the differences between Vanguard and EQ2.

|MaguS|
02-12-07, 09:32 PM
No zones for one... a real penalty if you die but not as annoying as EQ1s. Classes don't feel useless and everyone looks different, no clones...

Combat is nice with the combo capabilities and isn't slow, much like WoW where its nice and speedy.

Only reason I wouldn't go to WoW is theres no learning curve and well the game is too fast for my liking.

Duhast
02-13-07, 02:35 AM
I would not waste my time or money with vangaurd for now. Give it atleast 8 months for them to actually finish the game since it is a darn mess. Maybe in a year this game can really turn some heads but right now its a $50 beta. : (

I have been playing WoW for the past year and a half with a 4 month break between that time. If you like great art, great graphics with 60+ fps, pve and pvp and the ability to solo if you want then I say give it a try.

the1
02-13-07, 06:02 AM
I would say if you have a friend who has got a free 10 day pass?. Then try it out. I used my brothers 10 day pass about 3 weeks ago and then bought the game. I am now on level 12 (as of writing this) on a PVP server and love it :). Try it out?.

Tyr-Sog
02-13-07, 07:53 AM
I stopped playing wow back in August and just started playing again with a fresh new account(sold my old one). The communities are still thriving and low zones are still heavily populated with either new people or people starting alts(at least on my server).

IMO, the game is just really fun. It just seems to have the right amount of balance in every catagory to make it stay interesting. I can see how ever die hard mmo'ers finding it a bit on the shallow/easy side though. It is pretty easy to lvl and the trades are just as easy to lvl.

six_storm
02-13-07, 10:04 AM
I just started to play again after having not played for about a year. I really never got deep into WoW but I hope to get a pretty beefy character going this time around.

I never even got into the whole trading thing, never dealt with many beginners stuff and did a good number of quests on my own. I also never joined a guild or clan or whatever . . .

Ninjaman09
02-13-07, 10:18 AM
There's never been a better time to start playing WoW with the new races and the fact that the endgame has been drastically changed to allow anyone to advance and gear up regardless of your play preference (PVP, small group instances, raiding). It takes a significant time investment to level to 70, but not an eternity, as that is when you really start playing your character. I'd advise strongly against listening to people who criticize the game's relatively short leveling process as they are "missing the point" more or less.

nekrosoft13
02-13-07, 10:32 AM
what do you guys think of that D&D MMO?

|MaguS|
02-13-07, 10:53 AM
what do you guys think of that D&D MMO?

It was ok for the time that I played it but it got old pretty quick because allthe dungeons felt the same... espeically with way too many undead going. Also the lack of rounded classes hurt it because multiclassing was just so over powered.

It also really never felt like a MMO since it used a system much like Guild Wars.

Son Goku
02-13-07, 01:31 PM
It's not difficult to start now. Many of the older guildes (and I don't mean one's that got torn apart like my old one on Aman'Thul) are reforming or splintering off, focusing more on the new type of end game in Outland which doesn't call for 40 man raides.

As older realms fill up (Aman'Thul has gone much the way of older realms now, being full with character creation disabled 100% of the time, after a short time where character transfers were open and several guildes moved over), with people starting characters still...

I hadn't gotten the game before last August, and in that time I had leveled up 2 chars on Aman'Thul; and while my friend is away again, I've been sorta working on a third, and having to wait for some help with some class quests, had turned attention to a 4th on another realm that houses all my horde chars. As of last week, he found a guild, and has hit lvl 29. No, it's not too late.

nekrosoft13
02-13-07, 01:37 PM
It was ok for the time that I played it but it got old pretty quick because allthe dungeons felt the same... espeically with way too many undead going. Also the lack of rounded classes hurt it because multiclassing was just so over powered.

It also really never felt like a MMO since it used a system much like Guild Wars.

but for someone that likes GW?

UDawg
02-13-07, 01:39 PM
get vangaurds :)
Vanguard is CRAP! Don't get it. :D

Seriously it isn't too late to get into WoW. In fact it is a perfect time. People are leveling up the new classes so you will move right in to the upper levels easily.

If you want a MMO that treats you like a grinding pig then get Vanguard or EQ2. Their business model of keeping people hooked on the game is by making leveling so hard you kill kittens with wine bottles. Wow is much better. They allow you to level up faster and get good gear along the way. You can run raids for tier sets or grind faction for epic sets. The faction grinding time has been dramatically shortend. All in all WoW did ever thing right and EQ, EQ2 and Vanguard are teh dumb.

UDawg
02-13-07, 01:41 PM
It was ok for the time that I played it but it got old pretty quick because allthe dungeons felt the same... espeically with way too many undead going. Also the lack of rounded classes hurt it because multiclassing was just so over powered.

It also really never felt like a MMO since it used a system much like Guild Wars.
EQ is no longer the model for which MMOs are built, WoW is. WoW is a MMO through and through.

|MaguS|
02-13-07, 01:58 PM
EQ is no longer the model for which MMOs are built, WoW is. WoW is a MMO through and through.

....

I wasn't even talking about WoW in the quoted paragraph... hell I didn't even mention EQ.

nekrosoft13, It's still not that good even when compared to GW. It's not the gameplay but how teh game was designed. The game is very unbalanced and while fun in the beginning just becauses tedious after awhile. Combat is just full twitch based which is nice but theres no strategy invovled.

UDawg
02-13-07, 02:11 PM
....

I wasn't even talking about WoW in the quoted paragraph... hell I didn't even mention EQ.

nekrosoft13, It's still not that good even when compared to GW. It's not the gameplay but how teh game was designed. The game is very unbalanced and while fun in the beginning just becauses tedious after awhile. Combat is just full twitch based which is nice but theres no strategy invovled.
I am completely trying to get a rise out of you. :D

For people like me who hate turn based systems WoW is ideal. The free form action is great. I dispise the EQ series and all like them. This is why Vangaurd did not appeal to me.

|MaguS|
02-13-07, 02:13 PM
I am completely trying to get a rise out of you. :D

For people like me who hate turn based systems WoW is ideal. The free form action is great. I dispise the EQ series and all like them. This is why Vangaurd did not appeal to me.

See I prefer turn based combat over free form or realtime because I think it requires more strats and developers can add alittle more depth.

Xion X2
02-13-07, 04:09 PM
Vanguard is awesome. I've had an issue w/ it crashing due to an unstable overclock I've had, but I'll be back on it again soon. Over 10 hours in now.

I actually got it running really good w/ SLI the other night, magus. I forced SFR and it seemed to get a large performance boost, but I also had OC'd my Conroe from 2.4-->3.6 so I'm not sure which to attribute it to.

But you may want to give it a shot, if you haven't already. It was sticking at my refresh rate since I run vsync in every part except where there were lots of characters on-screen at once, then it would slow down to around 25. But everywhere else on the outside places would stay pinned at 60fps and played very smooth.