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namuk
02-14-07, 02:03 PM
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37634

TiKiMaN1
02-15-07, 09:44 AM
JUST A DAY after we uncovered the existence of Nvidia's Geforce 8950 GTX and Geforce 8900 GTX, our friends in Taiwan confirmed the news. You can read our original stories here and here.
The Geforce 8950 GX2 is a dual-chip card based on a new 80 nanometre G80 chip, probably codenamed something else. Both GX2 GPUs are clocked at 550MHz and the difference is GDDR4. The card comes with 2x512MB of 256-bit GDDR4 memory clocked at 2000MHz. The card has 96 Shaders, per chip. It will be priced at $600.


http://imageigloo.com/images/4834news_newg80specs01.JPG

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/7055/geforce_8900gtx_and_8950gx2_pricing_and_informatio n/index.html

Fetch this is wonderful!

:jumping:

NV30>R300
02-15-07, 01:33 PM
I'm not touching a GX2 style card even with a 3000ft pole. :thumbdwn:

Poor drivers at the moment and then add SLI headaches....:thumbdwn: Then if a game does not scale with multi card, then your 600 dollar over heated hunk of **** turns into half of what you paid for.

So how does G81 have 25% more shaders if this chart clearly shows 128?

mike686
02-15-07, 02:29 PM
I'm not touching a GX2 style card even with a 3000ft pole. :thumbdwn:

Poor drivers at the moment and then add SLI headaches....:thumbdwn: Then if a game does not scale with multi card, then your 600 dollar over heated hunk of **** turns into half of what you paid for.

So how does G81 have 25% more shaders if this chart clearly shows 128?

:screwy:

NV30>R300
02-15-07, 03:08 PM
:screwy:


care to explain, or am I missing something here...

TiKiMaN1
02-15-07, 03:59 PM
I'm pretty much thinking the 25% more shaders were always there in the design they just disabled them due to a need to make 8900 cards and also with shrinking to the 80nm process it runs cooler.

DiscipleDOC
02-15-07, 03:59 PM
I've not had one problem with my setup. Are you saying that it's nVidia's fault that you're having such hardships?

You come in here and spout off about nVidia, amd then ask someone to explain their depiction of you.....do you care to even OWN a g80 series card?

:wtf:

TiKiMaN1
02-15-07, 04:10 PM
I've not had one problem with my setup. Are you saying that it's nVidia's fault that you're having such hardships?

You come in here and spout off about nVidia, amd then ask someone to explain their depiction of you.....do you care to even OWN a g80 series card?

:wtf:

Man this stuff jus keeps happening lately. All of these noobs come to the forum crying about Vista drivers, crying about this or that. Most of it seems made up to me or flat out user error.

I have had 5 SLI setups and have never experienced any "headaches".

By the way DiscipleDOC are you loving the new rig?

HeavyH20
02-15-07, 04:19 PM
Well, the rumors fall into to competing camps.

1. The 80 nm higher clocked camp for the 8900
2. The 90 nm extra shaders camp for the 8900

So, nothing clear cut, yet. It is probably a mix of information, as well.

And, have to agree with DiscipleDOC. I have had SLI running since the 6800 series, and I have not seen any real issues. Works great. And, quad SLI worked just fine, but DX9 limitations, not drivers were the real issue with that approach. Quad SLI on DX10 will likely scale very well.

TiKiMaN1
02-15-07, 04:32 PM
Well, the rumors fall into to competing camps.

1. The 80 nm higher clocked camp for the 8900
2. The 90 nm extra shaders camp for the 8900

So, nothing clear cut, yet. It is probably a mix of information, as well.

And, have to agree with DiscipleDOC. I have had SLI running since the 6800 series, and I have not seen any real issues. Works great. And, quad SLI worked just fine, but DX9 limitations, not drivers were the real issue with that approach. Quad SLI on DX10 will likely scale very well.

Good analysis. I would have to agree.:)

DiscipleDOC
02-15-07, 04:43 PM
Man this stuff jus keeps happening lately. All of these noobs come to the forum crying about Vista drivers, crying about this or that. Most of it seems made up to me or flat out user error.

I have had 5 SLI setups and have never experienced any "headaches".

By the way DiscipleDOC are you loving the new rig?
Dude! If my rig was a woman, I would ditch my girl and run away with it!

O wait....

TiKiMaN1
02-15-07, 04:49 PM
Dude! If my rig was a woman, I would ditch my girl and run away with it!

O wait....

:rofl

Uberpwnage
02-15-07, 05:24 PM
Since the 8950GX2 will depend on suberp SLI performance to sell, then I guess that means they have to get a decent SLI driver working which is good for everyone.

I had considered not getting an 8950 just because of the SLI performance in vista, but Nvidia wouldn't release a card thats $50 more then the 8900 if it didnt come out on top, at least quad configurations if nothing else.

Should be very interesting, ATI's paper launch is really going to come back to bite them, they would have been better off not saying anything.

DiscipleDOC
02-15-07, 06:08 PM
Should be very interesting, ATI's paper launch is really going to come back to bite them, they would have been better off not saying anything.
Frow what I can see, ATI is getting trumped all over the video world, so they have to come out with something--if anything.

loafer87gt
02-15-07, 08:30 PM
Since the 8950GX2 will depend on suberp SLI performance to sell, then I guess that means they have to get a decent SLI driver working which is good for everyone.

I had considered not getting an 8950 just because of the SLI performance in vista, but Nvidia wouldn't release a card thats $50 more then the 8900 if it didnt come out on top, at least quad configurations if nothing else.

Should be very interesting, ATI's paper launch is really going to come back to bite them, they would have been better off not saying anything.

Not necessarily. They could just release the card with a sticker saying "SLI Ready" and then add it at a later date like like they did with the 8800 Vista support. Even though the card wouldn't work properly out the box, they could say that it will down the road and to be patient.

Uberpwnage
02-16-07, 01:23 AM
Not necessarily. They could just release the card with a sticker saying "SLI Ready" and then add it at a later date like like they did with the 8800 Vista support. Even though the card wouldn't work properly out the box, they could say that it will down the road and to be patient.

I would not spend $600 on the 8950GX2 unless it had the drivers, I didn't mean to speak for other people. It's just hard for me to believe someone would buy it without proper support, since the 8900GTX will be available as well. Its hard to consider buying a card that will initially be slower then the one you have currently (in the case of 8800GTX owners).

In the case of the 8800 and vista, vista wasn't available, so the lack of vista drivers prior to its launch wasn't such a big deal. And I have to expect any 8 series cards are going to have driver issues. However, something as crippling as poor SLI drivers is for a GX2 card is where I draw the line.