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Digital_Trans
02-15-07, 11:41 PM
I was researching two motherboards online today and found that the EVGA motherboard has from what appears to be better memory standards with support up to DDR2 1200 While the ASUS Striker Extreme only has Memory Standard of DDR2 800 What the hell? What's so special about the ASUS Striker Extreme vs the EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR? EVGA's price point is cheaper then Asus so why all the hype? From what it looks like if you have Corsair DDR2 Dominator XMS2 2GB 1066MHz memory like me you will have to overclock the ASUS Striker Extreme bios to even reach the 1066MHz frequency while from what I'v been hearing on reviews from newegg.com you can stick the ram right into the EVGA 680i board and it boots right up without any extreme overclocking to reach 1066MHz since the Corsair DDR2 Dominator runs at the normal 1066MHz. Hell, I would hope EVGA holds it's own with a memory standard of 1200 vs. Asus Striker Extreme with only 800. I see more of you using the EVGA nForce 680i Boards vs. the Asus Striker Extreme. I think the overclocking features may be alot better on the EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR vs. the ASUS Striker Extreme.

EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813188009

ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131074

RussianHAXOR
02-16-07, 12:25 AM
Its a better mobo? =)

TiKiMaN1
02-16-07, 12:30 AM
Your getting overly worried man.:p When I got my ASUS Striker Extreme the first time around they had the 1200MHz sticker on the front of the box. They have since removed it because ASUS boards are very picky about memory. What I can tell you is that these sticks were specifically designed for the ASUS Striker Extreme:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145169

Those sticks can overclock to 1200MHz and there is a specific BIOS performance upgrade for them in the 0505 BIOS.:D

Don't worry jAkUp and I had overclocking wars with memory and it was a toss up with who won.:D

TiKiMaN1
02-16-07, 12:33 AM
Digital_Trans PM me or talk to me over MSN if you have any more questions about it.

buffbiff21
02-16-07, 01:27 AM
Those sticks can overclock to 1200MHz and there is a specific BIOS performance upgrade for them in the 0505 BIOS.:D


I ran my 8500 sticks at above 1200 mhz... they are 100 dollars cheaper. just overvolt the ***** out of them. :D

Burner_Tbird2
02-16-07, 09:10 AM
Those sticks can overclock to 1200MHz and there is a specific BIOS performance upgrade for them in the 0505 BIOS.:D

Also eVGA's latest P25 BIOS change log has 'memory performance improvements' as one of its two items. Haven't had time to test it myself though.

Dr.Nick
02-16-07, 01:32 PM
Well, just because they say DDR800 doesn't mean mean you cant run higher rated memory. Or did you mean that there is no way to run the mem at 1200 without OC'ing the fsb? I could be mistaken but you can run the memory on them from anything between 400-3000MHz.


Edit- This board does not fall short on memory options
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTIzNCwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

LORD-eX-Bu
02-17-07, 12:07 AM
I have my 8500C5D dominators at 5-5-5-15 @ 1200 mhz, haven't messed with the timings at all tho, 2.3v:D

john19055
02-18-07, 06:38 PM
My PC8500C5 dominators will run at 1200mhz at 5-5-5-15 at 2.3v on my Evga 680i SLI and I have the Corsair fan,but the performance gain is not enough for me to even chance frying one,so I keep them at 4-3-3-9 at 2v at 800mhz and run it at 1:1 ratio at 3.6gigs.

GitDat
02-20-07, 04:35 PM
-LORD-eX-Bu']I have my 8500C5D dominators at 5-5-5-15 @ 1200 mhz, haven't messed with the timings at all tho, 2.3v:D

Just curious, what's with the EVGA 680i POS arrow in your sig? :D Not that I'm saying it isn't true :p I have the same memory as you(minus the Dominator body kit) and have fried 2 different sets on 2 different EVGA 680i motherboards.

LORD-eX-Bu
02-20-07, 05:20 PM
over the last couple of days I've run into a ton of issues with this mainboard. Just to keep it stable I have to run my memory at 666Mhz 5-5-5-15. Kinda gay right? Anyone thinking about getting this board would be better off with an ASUS Commando:D

With my new TJ09 and all my other hardware coming in a couple of days the last thing I needed was to have to buy a new motherboard:thumbsup:

(If my memory has been damaged I am going to kill someone:lol:)

eva2000
02-24-07, 09:43 PM
standards mean jack all.. if the bios has the options to take your memory where it can optimally go, then that's all that matters provided your memory is up for the task

no probs with 600mhz 5-3-3-3 at 2.5v on Striker

System:

Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 L627A872 B2 Step 6
Swiftech Apogee/Radiical Triple Fan Single Pass Rad/MCP655 + Kayl 100W Custom PSU
Asus 680i Striker Extreme 0402 bios
128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI card
2GB OCZ PC2-8000 Titanium Alpha VX2
4x80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATAII Raid 0 on SATA3 to SATA6 ports
Pioneer DVD Burner
600W OCZ EvoStream (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3262)


Managed to clock ram up to 600mhz 5-3-3-3 2T but with even further tighten the sub timings even more but had to loosen CAS from 4 to 5 in order to keep vdimm at 2.5v bios set ceiling (within OCZ warrantied max vdimm of 2.52v) :)

Memtest86+ v1.70 reported bandwidth

@533mhz 4-3-3-4 2T 3-1-3-6-30 at 2.35v vdimm = 5,209MB/s
@560mhz 4-3-3-4 2T 3-1-3-6-34 at 2.5v vdimm = 5,413MB/s
@600mhz 5-3-3-3 2T 2-1-2-8-24 at 2.5v vdimm = 5,625MB/s


600mhz 5-3-3-3 2T 2-1-2-8-24 at 2.5v vdimm

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/cpuz_validated.png

Super Pi 1M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/superpi-1m_single_13s906ms.png

Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/superpi-32m_single_13m18s547ms.png

Everest Ultimate Bandwidth with 42.9ns latency!
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/everest_bandwidth.png

Hexus Pifast
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/pifast_2583s.png

That's fastest I've managed to run Super Pi 32M at 3600mhz cpu speeds on any core2 platform to date (including Asus P5B Deluxe/P5W DH, Intel D975XBX, DFI ICFX3200) !

Yup further tweaked managed to shave a few seconds off

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680i_striker/results/X6800_1/ocz/titaniumalphavx2/8000/0402/9x/unlinked/2t/2_3divider/400-600-5333-2-1-2-8-2-24_1.5-2.5-1.35-1.7-1.5-1.35/maxmem/superpi-32m_single_13m14s859ms.png