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SeriTonin
02-25-07, 10:54 PM
I have to upgrade, and soon.

I have $600 to spend thanks to Uncle Sam and I know I will end up spending it on odds and ends if it sits in the bank.

I'm on a 3700+ 939, w/ 7900 GTX 2GB g. skill ddr 400

I'd like to be as cheap as possible. (Living on your own SUCKS! :p )

As of right now, for roughly $600 @ newegg I found a 165 dual core opty and a 8800 gts 640 mb

Is this decent? What does a 165 equal to? 3800+?

Anyways, does the cpu/gpu seem even enough? I know I'm going to be cpu limited, but I figure its a decent boost from what I have now, and if it oc's decently...

Is the 320MB gts a better solution for me? With the opty 165, will I still benefit from a 640mb version or will both cards be cpu limited?

My monitor does 1600X1200 and that's what I try to game at. I like 4xaa 16x af, I understand the 320 MB card cripples with aa/af enabled, but again, would the 640mb get me better frames, even with the cpu limitation?

tacos4me
02-25-07, 11:19 PM
Sounds like a good deal to me. Would probably be a good idea to spend a little more for the 640MB card to better future proof yourself. I anticipate these newer games being memory *****s.

You'd probably be a little bit limited by the 165 @ the stock 1.8GHz, but @ 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF you probably wouldn't notice it anyway. Opterons are generally monster overclockers though. I'd go with the Opteron over the 3800+ X2 any day, as you gain that extra 512KB of L2 cache per core, and you can always make up for the 165's lower clock speed by overclocking. Shouldn't have any problems squeezing 2.6-2.8GHz out of a 165 if you're comfortable doing so and have proper cooling.

But yeah, even without overclocking, that's a huge jump from a single core 3700+ with a 7900GTX to a dual core 165 and a 8800GTS. You should see a huge difference. Not only in games, but on your desktop as well. Multiple cores FTW. :)

MowTin
02-26-07, 01:10 AM
Remember you can sell your old GTX so that will add to the money you have to spend.

Doesn't an x2 4400 cost the same as an 170 opteron?

I have mine OC @ 2.65 easy...no extra cooling.

1.8Ghz can't be good

Redeemed
02-26-07, 01:44 AM
I'd go for the 640MB GTS- future games will definitely need the extra ram, and it will help with the AA/AF at 1600x1200. So for sure get the 640MB GTS.

As for the Opty165- It'd work, but if you can squeeze it go for the 170 or 175.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Category=34&N=2010340343+50001028+1051707439+1050706979+130282 0275&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=343

Yes, the Opterons tend to oc really well. I'm currently having issues with the temp of my Opteron185- but that is not due to the proc. I'm sure it is a combination of this crappy Thermaltake thermal-compound in combination of some other issues. Once I get my cooling under control I should be able to hit 3Ghz, maybe even 3.2Ghz. So yeah, the Opty's are great.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Order=PRICE&Page=1&Category=38&N=2010380048+1068314597&Submit=ENE&Nty=1&SubCategory=48

Let's just assume you went with the eVGA 8800GTS (640MB version)- that will leave you with roughly $200 left for the proc. Sell your current 3700 for about $50 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Category=34&N=2010340343+1051707439+1050706980&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=343), and then your 7900GTX for about $400 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121023). Now you have $650 more to spend. ;) Get yourself an Opty185 and later another GTS maybe. Or, get a second GTS and an Opty170 or 175. That is what I'd do. And you could probably get about $50 for your 3700 and $400 for that 7900GTX if you sold 'em on e-bay.

Just my suggestion. If you don't do what I suggested, your original plan would work as well- that would be quite a leap in regards to performance.

Just to give you a little "insight"- I'm running an Opty185 (stock speeds) with dual eVGA 640MB GTSs on an ASU A8N32-SLi Dlx with 2GB DDR500 Patriot eXtreme Performance ram. My performance in games is jaw-dropping. I am playing FEAR at 1920x1440, 16xAA, 16xAF, GCAA, TAA, vsync, TB (yes, vsync+TB works in SLi for the 8 series), and all in-game options maxed. It dips below 60fps only in the most intense of firefights- and even then it remains withing 45-60fps range. Never has it dropped below 45 fps. So if you can, getting a faster Opty and dual GTS (640MB version) would really pwn compared to what you are running now. That is my recommendation. ;)

SLippe
02-26-07, 03:16 AM
Here's what I did...

Bought an eVGA 8800GTS KO ACS3.

Sold my eVGA 7900GT CO SC w/VF900 and used the funds to buy my Opty 170.

So, I got a new gpu and cpu for less than $500.00. Oh, then turned around and sold my old cpu as well. Hell, if I think about it, I may have gotten the new gpu/cpu for under $400.00.

john19055
02-26-07, 08:38 PM
I would go for the AMD 4400+ instead of the opteron ,it has a higher mutipler and the one I have will do 2.8gig at 1.55v and all of them will do 2.6gigs that I have seen and it is just $179.99 and a 640mb Evga 8800GTS for 379.99 plus it has a $35 rebate ,so that would be around $560 or $525 with the rebate.I see you did'nt show what power supply you have ,just make sure it can handle your upgrade.

SeriTonin
02-27-07, 12:39 PM
Oh yeah, I have a 650 watt with 30A

methimpikehoses
02-27-07, 01:02 PM
There is always this deal at the dreaded Tiger if you are thinking of going to Vista:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2927672&CatId=1947

FX-60 is better than all the Optys and all the X2's... it just comes at a price. And you can't order them from Newegg unfortunately...

EDIT: there's this one too, not a bad deal IMO:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2864132&CatId=2514