View Full Version : Vanguard... what an improvement
Tygerwoody
02-26-07, 10:57 AM
Yea, I'm eating my own words. If you remember correctly, i bashed Vanguard up and down in previous posts based on my experience in the beta. If it wasn't for MaguS's posts on Vanguard's improvements, I would have wrote the game off as DOA.
That has all changed. I bought Vanguard and to say the game has improved is a HUGE understatement. Its not even the same game it was in beta. I am thoroughly enjoying myself and believe I will be playing this game with my guild for a good amount of time. Was it the "next Everquest" that I was hopeing for? No, but its the closest thing to it. The game has its fair share of bugs, but that does not take away from how fun it is. :)
lognoronon
02-26-07, 06:16 PM
I really want to play it but until they optimize it further I'm not going to bother.
nrdstrm
02-26-07, 07:36 PM
Yeah Tyger, while you were bashing, I was a proponent...TBH I was just holding onto the fact that maybe they would pull something outa there butts, and they DID! The change from the day beta ended to the Release was astounding.
As to it being your next "Everquest", my hopes are starting to fall that there will ever be my next Everquest. I'm pretty settled with the fact that I just want to play "GOOD" MMO's now, and that most likely nothing will ever compare to my EQ experiences...
OldOfEvil
02-27-07, 08:50 AM
The animation looks very jerky, and everything has that "fake" look to it like EQ2.. Hrmm.. Maybe when/if they offer a trial or something.
Mr. Hunt
02-27-07, 11:41 AM
Does it run better? I played the beta some and wanted to like it... seemed like it had potential but ran log a dogs anus and was about as stable as my ass.
Tygerwoody
02-27-07, 01:44 PM
Does it run better? I played the beta some and wanted to like it... seemed like it had potential but ran log a dogs anus and was about as stable as my ass.
Read my description of the game 2 months ago and now. :D
Its two entirely different games. The game runs ALOT better and looks ALOT better. Words can't describe the difference in now and then. The game doesn't run great by any stretch of the imagination. It runs "good enough", I'll put it that way. Before it was completely unacceptable, now it is just fine. ;)
Mr. Hunt
02-27-07, 01:48 PM
Running well in Vista? I might pick it up... would like a real MMO to play (have been playing free to play ones like Rappelz and Guild Wars until a good real MMO came along worthy of paying monthly for came along)... how much is it monthly? 15? But 10 a month if you do one big year payment in advance? Or something similar?
Tygerwoody
02-27-07, 02:56 PM
Running well in Vista? I might pick it up... would like a real MMO to play (have been playing free to play ones like Rappelz and Guild Wars until a good real MMO came along worthy of paying monthly for came along)... how much is it monthly? 15? But 10 a month if you do one big year payment in advance? Or something similar?
15 a month yes. And you do get a discount for making payments a few months in advanced just like the rest.
About Vista. I actually think Vanguard runs better on Vista in XP SP2 compatibility mode than being on XP itself! I am going to benchmark and test this just to be sure, but yes Vanguard will run just fine on Vista. Earlier in development, Vanguard was MADE for Vista.
talk about misinformation.
VG couldn't run on vista until around november 2006.
VG has more bugs than anything i have ever seen. Groups disconnecting for logouts to fix, loot rolling getting bugged so you lose loot. Items disappearing and taking 5 logons to get them back. So many more.
Doesn't stop me though 23 druid, 19 artificer, 100 diplomat.
Xion X2
02-27-07, 04:44 PM
^ LOL.
That's the hell of it though, isn't it? No matter how buggy it is you just can't stop playing it. The only thing that's gotten me away from it for a few days is a bad motherboard, heh.
One important thing to note on Vista gameplay, though, is that you can't vsync right now w/ the 8800-series. Vanguard runs a lot smoother with vsync enabled. 60fps w/o vsync is a lot rougher than 60fps w/ vsync. Look at the road going past you when you're running along or riding your horse sometime, and you'll see what I mean. Even at 60fps it's choppy compared to having vsync on.
But yeah, I never played the beta but this latest patch is already a nice improvement over the prior version. And they've been releasing them once a week, so I hope it stays on a steady incline.
Why do you guys like EverGay? It is the dumbest idea for a game ever. Hey lets have our clients spend 4 months eveling 2 levels. When they die if they don't get back to their body in time because they were dumb enough to bind to a public place, they will loose4 levels and gear.
FRIKING BRILLIANT!
How about this. Lets show them why we call it "Ever"quest. We shall have them go to a zone 10 levels above them to kill a mob that is surrounded by mob 10 levels around them. Then if they actually do kill that mob we will give them a quest reward that is 4 levels below them. That way we will force them to spend the next 4 month leveling to finish a quest only to get a pos reward.
SOUNDS ****ING AWESOME TO ME! Screw that!
Bring on Warhammer and Age of Conan.
NrthnStar5
02-28-07, 03:05 PM
what a loser :rolleyes2
Tygerwoody
02-28-07, 05:03 PM
what a loser :rolleyes2
Yea i know. Udawg is a loser :rolleyes2
:D
what a loser :rolleyes2
AHAHAHAHAHA! Did I hit to close to home? It's a game. Lighten up. You fan boys are really as sad bunch of sexually oppresed lemmings.
|MaguS|
02-28-07, 07:18 PM
Why do you guys like EverGay? It is the dumbest idea for a game ever. Hey lets have our clients spend 4 months eveling 2 levels. When they die if they don't get back to their body in time because they were dumb enough to bind to a public place, they will loose4 levels and gear.
FRIKING BRILLIANT!
How about this. Lets show them why we call it "Ever"quest. We shall have them go to a zone 10 levels above them to kill a mob that is surrounded by mob 10 levels around them. Then if they actually do kill that mob we will give them a quest reward that is 4 levels below them. That way we will force them to spend the next 4 month leveling to finish a quest only to get a pos reward.
SOUNDS ****ING AWESOME TO ME! Screw that!
Bring on Warhammer and Age of Conan.
It's called Risk vs Reward. What EQ did so well was make tougher things well worth it, if you were afraid of dying and losing your xp/corpse then don't go deep into a dungeon or fight some uber boss. The game offered challanges for everyone, the little babies who can only play 5 hours a week ruined it when they started bitching because people who would commit time and risk their hard work for the advacement of their characters actually were rewarded.
I dislike WoW because theres real risk vs reward... death is meaningless in the game as is commitment to set a better goal and reach it. Everyone can do everything no matter how much effort they put into it... it should be like life, if you don't put the effort to get something then you don't get it.
It's called Risk vs Reward. What EQ did so well was make tougher things well worth it, if you were afraid of dying and losing your xp/corpse then don't go deep into a dungeon or fight some uber boss. The game offered challanges for everyone, the little babies who can only play 5 hours a week ruined it when they started bitching because people who would commit time and risk their hard work for the advacement of their characters actually were rewarded.
I understand that. I guess my humor is not as refined as Penny Arcade's :D
EQ just isn't my style of game. I don't like to spend a month working for a subpart quest reward. As you know most got their gear from grinding and not the quests.
I dislike WoW because theres real risk vs reward... death is meaningless in the game as is commitment to set a better goal and reach it. Everyone can do everything no matter how much effort they put into it... it should be like life, if you don't put the effort to get something then you don't get it.
I can understand this but i disagree that it should be like life. It is a video game. I do it to relax and as a hobby. I mainly play MMOs for the social interaction with my online friends. I am willing to bet if they all switched to EQII I would also. I am fairly easy to please. But yeah it just comes down to taste. I like the game play of WoW. I like the fact that you can put in a good amount of work but it isn't mindboggling grinding bordom. It moves along and the goals are not so far above you that you just give up or you kill kittens.
Tyger talked me into buying Vanguard. I'll pick it up this evening. I'll give it another try.
NrthnStar5
02-28-07, 09:26 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA! Did I hit to close to home? It's a game. Lighten up. You fan boys are really as sad bunch of sexually oppresed lemmings.
Not even close, it's the fact that your post was the most immature piece of written garbage I have seen in a post in a long time.
And you better think twice before calling someone a sexually oppressed lemming when you know absolutely nothing. I'm sorry that I'm not in high school any longer but thank GOD for that. Your comments are Ignorant Why do you guys like EverGay? and Immature.
Move along, no one wants to hear your BS here.
|MaguS|
02-28-07, 09:30 PM
Don't take UDawg too seriously... hes really smart and mature about most things... well everything except politics... he is a republican.
Not even close, it's the fact that your post was the most immature piece of written garbage I have seen in a post in a long time.
And you better think twice before calling someone a sexually oppressed lemming when you know absolutely nothing. I'm sorry that I'm not in high school any longer but thank GOD for that. Your comments are Ignorant and Immature.
Move along, no one wants to hear your BS here.
LOL! Look kids! He took me serious.
You know what your problem is? Well its two actually.
1. You are new here.
2. You have no sense of humor.
Just relax and have fun with it.
BTW my comments were not ignorant. They were spot on and every one here knows it. My guild mates who played EverQuest for 6 years laughed at how true my post was. Sure it is a exageration but that is what made it so damn funny.
(nana2) (nana2)
Don't take UDawg too seriously... hes really smart and mature about most things... well everything except politics... he is a republican.
HEY! I am NOT mature! I don't call you names.... much. :D
Sgt_Pitt
03-01-07, 09:20 AM
the game hasnt changed much at all since beta, the performance still sucks, its barely tolerable.
It still has lots of potential though, so im playing both eq2 and vg atm.
Mainly raid in eq2 and solo in VG.
NrthnStar5
03-01-07, 11:04 AM
HEY! I am NOT mature!
That says it all in a nutshell
Tygerwoody
03-01-07, 11:06 AM
UDawg... hes really smart and mature
:rofl
Thats a good one
Mr. Hunt
03-01-07, 11:24 AM
Thinking about picking this up today or something... wouldn't get to play much though since I gotta work... is the CE worth much? Should I not even worry about it?
Ninjaman09
03-01-07, 11:43 AM
That says it all in a nutshell
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