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Xion X2
02-26-07, 03:33 PM
Honestly. I think I've just about had it.

I should have just kept my mouth shut, because I've been praising this chipset for the last week and telling guys how stable it's been since changing my RAM to run at a 1:1 ratio w/ my FSB. Well, it had been. For about the past week and a half to two weeks it had been very stable--not a single BSOD or freeze to be found.

And now, for the last two days, it has been freezing up left and right with the EXACT SAME BIOS SETTINGS. I haven't touched a thing, and suddenly it is starting to crap out on me at every turn. I'm getting BSOD's, random game lockups, screen-freezes when web browsing, etc. It is now failing Orthos at this overclock within 2 and a half minutes when before it would run it for 6+ hours. It is beginning to seem to me that this freaking chipset has a mind of its own and cannot be tamed. I have even CLOCKED BACK EVERYTHING TO STOCK SETTINGS, AND THE STUPID THING IS STILL FREEZING AT EVERY TURN!

I am this close to just saying "The hell with it" and going back to my P5B Deluxe and a single card. I just don't think there's an SLI motherboard that is 775 on the market right now that is stable. This would be the third freaking 650i/680i motherboard I have gone through in just the last few months, and that's ridiculous. I am so pissed at Nvidia right now that I could scream.

I'm typing all this on my buddy's computer because mine is running a Windows repair right now on the off-chance that might have something to do with it, but I seriously doubt it. Because I've been gaming on it for over a week with no problems and suddenly it just started acting up on me.

stevemedes
02-26-07, 03:46 PM
Fking lame dude. Ya come back to the P5B deluxe with meeee!!

Xion X2
02-26-07, 03:47 PM
I recently sold mine on eBay, or I'd probably be installing it right now. I wonder if there's a way that I can cancel the sale.

stevemedes
02-26-07, 03:48 PM
I wonder what eVGA's RMA rate is with their 680i mobo. Because I've heard LOTS of people with problems. Much fewer problems with Intel chipsets.

leemik
02-26-07, 03:51 PM
I hear ya man.. I had a serious problem since I got it 2 weeks ago.. i finally solved it on Friday with a new power supply.. Who knew that an $250 nVidia SLI approved 850W power supply was not 100% compatible with the board.. :thumbdwn:

a new problem developed on Sunday.. start her up and for some strange reason my bios memory got totally f-ed up.. It forgot all my settings, and hung when i tried to go into some sub menus.. it also didn't recognize any drives anymore and was missing items!..

so I pulled the CMOS battery out for a while and it was fine again.. but kind makes you hmmmm WTF is next!!!..

I've only owned this thing for a coupla weeks and never had so many problems with a system before!

--mike

Xion X2
02-26-07, 04:02 PM
I've built numerous systems over the past year or two, and never have I seen such a circus that is the 680i.

I had an eVGA 680i to start off with, and the southbridge ran hotter than a motehr#*(@*!er. Sometimes it would get up over 80C, and obviously I knew that wasn't right. I took the southbridge heat-sink off and saw that the thermal paste looked more like a hunk of play-doh a kindergartner had slapped on the chip, so I cleaned that off and applied my own and re-set the heatsink on the southbridge hoping it would help temps.

Temps went down about 5C but still got over 80C occasionally when in SLI mode. Eventually, it ended up dying on me. I'm guessing the overheating southbridge just finally fried.

Replaced the eVGA w/ an Asus P5N-E 650i. Spent several hours w/ assembly since I'm watercooled only to find out the board was DOA. Only motherboard out of about 6-7 that I have owned that I have EVER been shipped that was like that. The light would come on the motherboard, but it would never power up all the way. Sometimes I could get it to power on for a second or two, but it would immediately shut back down.

So, I said "screw that," and went back to the 680i. This time I tried a BFG board. Had some stability problems in the beginning. Couldn't get the BIOS to flash correctly because it wouldn't read my floppy drive and finally did using the Windows flash utility to the P24. Had some stability issues w/ overclocking my Conroe because the board doesn't like anything but a 1:1 memory ratio w/ the FSB. Finally ended up getting her stable @ 3.6. Passed Orthos for 6+ hours, dual Prime for 6+ hours, and Windows Memtest for 3+ hours.

Now it's failing them all 2 weeks later at the exact same settings.

If it turns out I ditch this board and don't decide to go with an Asus like the P5N32-E Plus, I will never, ever come within 50 miles of an Nvidia chipset ever again.

stevemedes
02-26-07, 04:05 PM
You could try the new Gigabyte 680i. I wouldn't though.

Xion X2
02-26-07, 04:25 PM
If I go w/ another SLI board, it'll be the P5N32-E Plus. It looks like that one uses the southbridge from the AMD 590-series but a 650i northbridge. People seem to be reporting much better stability/overclocking with that one from the brief reviews I've read so far.

I've spent a lot on this setup and really don't want to go back to a single card solution. So, I may give this thing one more shot before I completely give up on it, but it will not be one of the nForce 6 chipsets. I'm through with them. Nvidia has wasted enough of my time and money.

stevemedes
02-26-07, 04:30 PM
If I go w/ another SLI board, it'll be the P5N32-E Plus. It looks like that one uses the southbridge from the AMD 590-series but a 650i northbridge. People seem to be reporting much better stability/overclocking with that one from the brief reviews I've read so far.

I've spent a lot on this setup and really don't want to go back to a single card solution. So, I may give this thing one more shot before I completely give up on it, but it will not be one of the nForce 6 chipsets. I'm through with them. Nvidia has wasted enough of my time and money.


Yeah I feel you man. I mean ****, you bought a few mobos already, 1200$ on gfx cards, dual waterblocks.. Sheesh. I spent maybe 1500ish on my rig and id be HEATED if it wouldnt work correctly.

spaceigg
02-26-07, 04:48 PM
am I lucky(nana2) or what, I have not had any problems with the BFG 680i

TiKiMaN1
02-26-07, 05:00 PM
I never ran my Striker Extreme at 1:1 settings. I found the most stable settings to be 5:3 or 5:4 I can't remember. Mind you my memory was at 1120MHz 4-4-4-5 and my E6700 @ 3.5GHz. I never had one hitch at those settings.

TiKiMaN1
02-26-07, 05:03 PM
I hate to say it Xion X2 but maybe you should turn down the overclock from 3.6GHz to 3.5Ghz. I'm really impressed that you could push the E6600 to a 1.2GHz overclock.:eek: That's just crazy. My E6700 could not get past 3.5GHz if I wanted it stable. But to me 3.5GHz was heaven. Smooth as butter.:D

Xion X2
02-26-07, 05:09 PM
The overclock isn't the problem. I've had my Conroe stable at 3.6 on my Asus P5B Deluxe that I had before without a hitch. It has also been perfectly stable on this board for the last two weeks. I stress-tested it with dual-prime for over 6 hours in Blend, Small FFT's, and Large FFT's. I stress-tested it with Orthos for 6 hours with all 3 as well. And I also stress-tested it with Windows Memtest for 3 hours. Not a hitch. Flew through all of them flawlessly. I would take it higher than 3.6, but I have to feed it 1.57v to have it stable at this speed and it's already pushing my temps to the max (around 60C under small FFT's in Prime).

And as I said above, this board has even been freezing up at STOCK settings lately.

Also, I've been unable to get the board stable even going as low as 3.2 on the CPU with my memory at 1000mhz. I've tried a hundred different combinations, and the only way I can get it stable is to set the FSB/RAM at a 1:1 ratio. That is the only way it will pass Orthos/Memtest/Prime without freezing up or failing benchmark testing.

But now it is sitting at the exact same overclock and BIOS settings as the prior two weeks and is crapping out.

Feyy
02-26-07, 05:12 PM
I've never had a hince of a problem with my Intels board ;)

Xion X2
02-26-07, 05:12 PM
am I lucky(nana2) or what, I have not had any problems with the BFG 680i

From the looks of your signature, you're not overclocking, either. The board may run just fine if you keep everything @ stock settings, but I didn't buy all of my equipment to do that, and I especially didn't buy an nForce6 board, a self-professed better overclocker by Nvidia, so that I could keep everything at stock settings, either.

top3koms
02-26-07, 05:13 PM
Check all the voltages ,NB ,SB 1.2VHT and your cpu vcore if you have them set to auto in your bios they are probably jumping up and out of range.I understand I do not have the same board as you but I have now had 2 P5N32-E SLI's and the P5N32-E SLI Plus I have now and they have all had improper voltages either to NB or SB or 1.2VHT when set to auto.Setting them all manually is the only way I haven't had problems with Nvidia's new chipset ,well ,so far. :(

Xion X2
02-26-07, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I will try setting the voltages on the NB, SB, etc manually again, but like I said before I have not touched a single setting in this BIOS since it was flying through Orthos, Prime, and Memtest without a hitch for the last two weeks. Heck, I haven't even entered the BIOS since then. It just makes no sense to me that it would suddenly become unstable unless the chipset itself was crapping out or it has somehow damaged my memory (which I hope to god isn't the case.)

Redeemed
02-26-07, 05:24 PM
Things like this make me glad I'm still on s939. ;) Even though this Opty is running at about 52*C idle- and is pegged at 60*C under load, it is atleast stable. :p

Now if I can just get these temps down... :p

Considering how much $$$ you've invested in the cooling and dual video cards, not going SLi would seem like a huge waste Xion. I'd go for that P5NE-32 SLi (or what ever it is called) so atleast you can still keep SLi. ;) Good luck bud, hope you get this resolved soon.

top3koms
02-26-07, 05:25 PM
I sincerely hope the memory problem is not the case either ,I know I've had to RMA some ram lately because of the 680i.I purchased just about $1200 worth of ram and mobo's last month because of the flakey 680i chipset.:thumbdwn:If the setup I have goes now I am going to intel for sure.

wollyka
02-26-07, 05:38 PM
Sh!t! i am now more concerned about that nforce 680i that i have..Hopefully it will not give me problems like yours! Good luck!
PS: as a side note does anybody knows if the Asus P5N32-SLI Premium nForce 590 for Intel is more stable than an nforce680i mobo?

TiKiMaN1
02-26-07, 05:39 PM
But now it is sitting at the exact same overclock and BIOS settings as the prior two weeks and is crapping out.

Dang. I'm sorry man.:(

J-Mag
02-26-07, 05:46 PM
I stress-tested it with dual-prime for over 6 hours in Blend, Small FFT's, and Large FFT's. I stress-tested it with Orthos for 6 hours with all 3 as well. And I also stress-tested it with Windows Memtest for 3 hours. Not a hitch. Flew through all of them flawlessly. I would take it higher than 3.6, but I have to feed it 1.57v to have it stable at this speed and it's already pushing my temps to the max (around 60C under small FFT's in Prime).


Remember our discussion about what we use for stress testing?

This is exactly why I test by actually playing the games I am currently into.
I have had the same situation where I will be stable at one overclock one day then th next day is another story.

Admittedly my probs were not at stock, but the concept is the same.

Anyway good luck getting up system to run... I know it can be frustrating being an early adopter, especially when it comes to motherboards.

Xion X2
02-26-07, 05:47 PM
Yeah, thanks everyone. If worst comes to worst I guess I'll give the Asus P5N32-E Plus a shot.

I should be compensated by Nvidia for all of this mess. Their quality control has gone straight down the crapper. I think they're trying to stretch themselves too thin with the G80, 650/680i, Vista/XP drivers, 32/64 bit, SLI, etc.

I have now gone through:

3 bad G80's, two which had the wrong resistors, one that just suddenly died a month after install.
3 bad 650/680i motherboards

Xion X2
02-26-07, 05:49 PM
Remember our discussion about what we use for stress testing?

This is exactly why I test by actually playing the games I am currently into.
I have had the same situation where I will be stable at one overclock one day then th next day is another story.

Admittedly my probs were not at stock, but the concept is the same.

Anyway good luck getting up system to run... I know it can be frustrating being an early adopter, especially when it comes to motherboards.

That's not what's happening, JMag. It isn't passing Orthos/Prime anymore. It fails it within a few minutes, so it's not game-testing that enlightened me as to having an unstable overclock now.

Orthos/Prime have always been a very good gauge for measuring a stable overclock in the past, and it continues to be for me now.

J-Mag
02-26-07, 05:58 PM
That's not what's happening, JMag. It isn't passing Orthos/Prime anymore. It fails it within a few minutes, so it's not game-testing that enlightened me as to having an unstable overclock now.

Orthos/Prime have always been a very good gauge for measuring a stable overclock in the past, and it continues to be for me now.

I am saying you spent that time running stability tests for naught when you could have been playing.

That is all.