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TiKiMaN1
03-04-07, 07:32 AM
http://imageigloo.com/images/7598calendar.jpg (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/coming_2007.htm)

TFT Central (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/) has an awesome preview of LCD technologies that will be hitting the market this year. You can find the article here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/coming_2007.htm

Among the new tech coming to LCDs this year include things like HDMI Inputs, 1ms Response Times, and 100Hz/120Hz Technology.

One that I am really excited for is Motion Blur Reduction. Created by BenQ, BFI (Black Frame Insertion) also known as Perfection Motion is designed to take away ghosting and blur during games.:D Samsung has also created it's own Motion Blur Reduction technology known as MPA (Motion Picture Acceleration).

Such technology can be found in the new BenQ FP241VW (http://www.benq.com/product/lcd/FP241VW/):

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=86662
http://imageigloo.com/images/9151benq5.JPG (http://www.benq.com/product/lcd/FP241VW/)

This is very good article by TFT Central and I highly suggest reading it. 2007 is going to be an awesome year to be a Gamer!:D Not just for software reasons (Vista, UT2007, Crysis etc.), but for hardware as well.

:jumping:

Redeemed
03-04-07, 09:21 AM
Nice. I'm still using two 19"CRTs. Ones a Samsung (which pwns btw :p) and the other is a Viewsonic. Though I do like these monitors, I'm still wanting to go LCD. I'll probably wait till some monitors with these new technologies are available. I'm aiming at getting a couple 20"+ Samsungs. :D

Great find! :thumbsup:

ArrowMk84
03-04-07, 09:42 AM
I've been thinking about getting a new LCD monitor, and I was even looking at the new Dell and HP 30" monstors that do 92% color gamut. But after reading several articles (including this one), I really want one with LED back lighting and 100 Hz refresh rates. That will also give my credit card some time to recover from the shock of new RAM, new HDs and a new case. :)

harl
03-04-07, 09:57 AM
There is a review of the perfect motion / AMA-Z technology

http://www.behardware.com/medias/photos_news/00/18/IMG0018608.jpg

Basically trades motion blur for screening

http://www.behardware.com/articles/646-1/benq-fp241wz-1rst-lcd-with-screening.html
http://www.behardware.com/articles/646-2/benq-fp241wz-1rst-lcd-with-screening.html
(don't miss the video)
http://www.behardware.com/articles/646-2/benq-fp241wz-1rst-lcd-with-screening.html


The best part, it's optional and can be disabled/adjusted at will :D

mullet
03-04-07, 09:58 AM
Awsome Tiki, this is what I have been waiting for.

j0j081
03-04-07, 11:37 AM
I really like my Samsung 931bw. It's only a 19 inch widescreen but has 2ms response time and looks great. No noticeable ghosting during gaming/videos at all.

kevJ420
03-04-07, 12:31 PM
I'd rather achieve 92% color gamut by wide gamut CCFLs. Won't LEDs be more like CRTs when it comes to weakening? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Something that needs to be used more, and I mean way more, is NEC's OptiClear or equivalent. No matter how high you make the color gamut, you won't come anywhere close to jet blacks w/o OptiClear or X-brite. If glare is really that much of a problem for someone, then they need to turn the damn lights off. Then it won't be a problem anymore.

Also, why aren't there .99 PFCs LCDs nowadays? I think a good idea would be if everything had an external power supply and would be of PC P&C- quality and have an active PFC, no matter how much more it may drive the cost up.

But that's just my opinion and it is probably retarded to everyone else.

J-Mag
03-04-07, 12:47 PM
Something that needs to be used more, and I mean way more, is NEC's OptiClear or equivalent. No matter how high you make the color gamut, you won't come anywhere close to jet blacks w/o OptiClear or X-brite. If glare is really that much of a problem for someone, then they need to turn the damn lights off. Then it won't be a problem anymore.


If that light is the sun then you will have issues turning it off ;)

trinibwoy
03-04-07, 12:52 PM
lol

hokeyplyr48
03-04-07, 01:03 PM
wats the highest resolution hdmi can support? will that soon replace dual link dvi?

jAkUp
03-04-07, 02:26 PM
Also, why aren't there .99 PFCs LCDs nowadays? I think a good idea would be if everything had an external power supply and would be of PC P&C- quality and have an active PFC, no matter how much more it may drive the cost up.

Why on earth would you need Active PFC on an LCD which draws so little power??? That doesn't make any sense.

Bman212121
03-04-07, 02:36 PM
Let me know when a monitor that carries all of the above comes out, and I'll pull the trigger. :)

kevJ420
03-04-07, 02:38 PM
Why on earth would you need Active PFC on an LCD which draws so little power??? That doesn't make any sense.

I guess I was getting PFC confused w/ voltage reg. But I do know that PFC isn't the same as efficiency. I had always thought PFC "cleaned" the power going into anything. So I thought if a TV/monitor had an external PSU w/ PFC, then that would prevent/reduce voltage sags and thus not degrade the tube, ccfl, led.

Someone, anyone, let me know what PFC really does.

kevJ420
03-04-07, 02:39 PM
If that light is the sun then you will have issues turning it off ;)

Blinds in my room. I can make my room dark.

Bman212121
03-04-07, 02:52 PM
wats the highest resolution hdmi can support? will that soon replace dual link dvi?

I'm not really sure what the highest it can actually push, but they state 1440p on wiki, but the biggest thing that is important is that it has 10.2gbps of bandwidth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

What that means is that it should be able to push a higher res than a dual link DVI cable depending upon the mhz. From the DVI wiki, a single link is capped at 165mhz which creates 3.7gbps of bandwith, which is just enough to run 1920 x 1200 which is 2.3m pixels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI The Spec says it can do 2.6MP at 60hz. A dual link can do 7.4gbps + which means that it would have to be doing at least 165mhz or better to achieve that, but I don't see anywhere that states a ceiling. So with a little shotty math, I can claim that a dual link at 7.4gbps should be around 5.2mp @ 60hz, and hdmi is probably closer to 7.8mp going by what I'm getting from DVI. It is hard to say if you can actually estimate it like that, but it sounds like HDMI has quite a bit of headroom.

So my shotty math says that it can probably do quxga which is 3200 x 2400, or 7.7mp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QUXGA

J-Mag
03-04-07, 03:52 PM
Blinds in my room. I can make my room dark.

I don't care about your situation. The point is not everyone has an opportunity to make their room dark.

TiKiMaN1
03-04-07, 04:07 PM
I will have to let you guys know how perfect motion, and the other cool features work on the BenQ FP241VW. I will be purchasing the LCD this Friday.

(nana2)

It's great that the LCD has 1:1 pixel mapping.:D I will have to see how the different game modes work as well.

kevJ420
03-04-07, 04:17 PM
I will have to let you guys know how perfect motion, and the other cool features work on the BenQ FP241VW. I will be purchasing the LCD this Friday.

(nana2)

It's great that the LCD has 1:1 pixel mapping.:D I will have to see how the different game modes work as well.

The display adaptor might do it better with the newest drivers. But maybe it does it the same. I always use centered output or fixed aspect ratio.

kevJ420
03-04-07, 04:21 PM
I don't care about your situation. The point is not everyone has an opportunity to make their room dark.

you're quite right. but what's really cool are the black blinds that I've heard they had at the id software office or their former one. Black blinds could be considered an accessory for electronics.

J-Mag
03-04-07, 04:42 PM
you're quite right. but what's really cool are the black blinds that I've heard they had at the id software office or their former one. Black blinds could be considered an accessory for electronics.

I think you need both. You need black blind for darkness, and white blinds so that your place doesn't become an oven on sunny days.

Anyway, how'd you get id's blinds? Do a little B&E?

SH64
03-04-07, 05:30 PM
Interesting features!! the ghosting/blur can be a real bad factor when it comes to LCD's.

TiKiMaN1
03-04-07, 05:57 PM
Interesting features!! the ghosting/blur can be a real bad factor when it comes to LCD's.

Also 1ms Response Times and 100Hz/120Hz Technology seems to be a decent step in the right direction if you ask me.:D

Bman212121
03-04-07, 05:58 PM
Also 1ms Response Times and 100Hz/120Hz Technology seems to be a decent step in the right direction if you ask me.:D

For sure, actually being able to benefit from 120fps will be nice! :)

TiKiMaN1
03-04-07, 06:00 PM
For sure, actually being able to benefit from 120fps will be nice! :)

That's true.;) I just wish the average human eye could perceive all 120 frames.

jAkUp
03-04-07, 06:37 PM
That's true.;) I just wish the average human eye could perceive all 120 frames.

The human eye can perceive over 120FPS :) But its not very noticeable.

TBH, I don't really see the point in 120Hz LCD's for gaming. LCD's don't have a refresh, and in today's games you are very unlikely to hit 120FPS if you have Vsync on.