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Woodelf
03-17-03, 09:20 PM
OK, I'm getting jumped by the ATI gang, so I figured that I would try to find out from the Nvidia gang.
I like DV, is it nessesary, or just a gimmick.
What do You guy's think?.

ChrisRay
03-17-03, 09:25 PM
Digital Vibrance is an amazing feature, Expecially if you own an older monitor. it can change your entire perception of 2d color graphics. And its completely tweakable to your settings.

I do miss Digital Vibrance alot on my Radeon 9500 Pro. I heard ATI was releasing a Digital Vibrance like feature in Cat 3.3

Kruno
03-17-03, 09:42 PM
Chris, have you used Omega's drivers? It has something along the lines of DV on Ati's cards.
Though it makes the colours looked washed out on some games.

ChrisRay
03-17-03, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Chris, have you used Omega's drivers? It has something along the lines of DV on Ati's cards.
Though it makes the colours looked washed out on some games.
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Nah I'm not a big fan of 3rd party drivers. I'll go ahead and wait for cat 3.3. I don't believe they are that far away.

saturnotaku
03-17-03, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by K.I.L.E.R
Chris, have you used Omega's drivers? It has something along the lines of DV on Ati's cards.
Though it makes the colours looked washed out on some games.

I'm using the latest Omega drivers - where do you find this setting?

Woodelf
03-17-03, 10:06 PM
It would be very interesting if ATI did release some form of DV.

deejaya
03-17-03, 11:11 PM
I have my DV set to the highest it can go. I also use gamma of ~1.4 so having the max DV really brings the colours back. Funny thing I did notice is my slider is a three stage slider (GF3 Ti200) and my mate's GF4 Ti4200 is a variable slider. He has almost the same monitor as me, but his DV on max makes the colours look a bit strange. :confused:

ChrisRay
03-17-03, 11:19 PM
Geforce 4 Ti and Geforc4 MXs have a much more tweakable DV than Older Geforce 2 and Geforce 3 cards.

jAkUp
03-17-03, 11:35 PM
i dont use dv... i dunno, imo it makes everything too "bright" and weird looking

ChrisRay
03-17-03, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by jAkUp
i dont use dv... i dunno, imo it makes everything too "bright" and weird looking

DV is very dependent on monitor. if you have a very good monitor. Then DV would make things look wierd. its meant to help older monitors.

deejaya
03-18-03, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by ChrisRay
DV is very dependent on monitor. if you have a very good monitor. Then DV would make things look wierd. its meant to help older monitors.

It probably does help a lot with older/crappy monitors. But not mine nor my mate's is old or crappy. We both ramp our gamma's up for games, and the colours tend to look washed out. DV just solves that problem. I had a feeling that the DV changed between GF3 + GF4 because he uses a lot lower DV than me to achieve the same results (and any higher than that (my max) makes it look wierd)

Kruno
03-18-03, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
I'm using the latest Omega drivers - where do you find this setting?

Not on the latest 3.2 based drivers. :)
It was on the ones that were 3.1 based and/or earlier. Can't remember exactly but it was one of those drivers.

sbp
03-18-03, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by deejaya
It probably does help a lot with older/crappy monitors. But not mine nor my mate's is old or crappy. We both ramp our gamma's up for games, and the colours tend to look washed out. DV just solves that problem. Same thing here.

"DV just good for old, crappy monitors" Amazing how things get passed around on the net and become fact. :bleh:

Gator
03-18-03, 05:42 AM
I like the pretty colors, so I use Digital Vibrance, but it's really not a big deal and you could probably find an alternative to it out their for any other graphics card. Is it a gimic? Ya, but it's fun.

muzz
03-18-03, 05:43 AM
Wonder if ATi's "Colorfill" is similar to DV....

Smokey
03-18-03, 05:58 AM
I dont think my Iiyama VM Pro is an old crappy monitor at all, I use DV because, as has already been said, it helps the washed out colours you have when you dont use it.

ChrisRay
03-18-03, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by muzz
Wonder if ATi's "Colorfill" is similar to DV....


It most definately is not, Clicking colorfill is a waiste of time.

MuFu
03-18-03, 05:00 PM
DV is just a cheap gamma/contrast hack. It plays havoc with colour accuracy and was probably the result of a dodgy marketing call that was implemented to make up for the slightly lacklustre colour saturation produced by nV cards in the past.

If you like it then use it, but it's a bit of a joke that they market it as a "feature".

MuFu.

Chalnoth
03-18-03, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by ChrisRay
DV is very dependent on monitor. if you have a very good monitor. Then DV would make things look wierd. its meant to help older monitors.
Personally, I like to use it when watching movies. For normal desktop stuff and games it's not very useful.

ChrisRay
03-18-03, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by MuFu
DV is just a cheap gamma/contrast hack. It plays havoc with colour accuracy and was probably the result of a dodgy marketing call that was implemented to make up for the slightly lacklustre colour saturation produced by nV cards in the past.

If you like it then use it, but it's a bit of a joke that they market it as a "feature".

MuFu.


Errm when has Nvidia ever marketed Digital Vibrance? I have never ever heard Nvidia "mention it"

MuFu
03-18-03, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by ChrisRay
Errm when has Nvidia ever marketed Digital Vibrance? I have never ever heard Nvidia "mention it"

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=feature_dvc

http://www.nvidia.com/docs/lo/2414/SUPP/TB-00648-001_v01_DVC_110402.pdf

http://www.gainward.de/gwnewsite/gweurope/gwcontent/gwgcnepress/03_01_E_GF_FX_5800.htm

http://www.leadtek.com.tw/www/Web_Leadtek/GFFX/dvc.htm

http://www.prolink-usa.com/english/news/news_geforceFx%205600-5200.html

http://www.evga.com/bestbuy/default.asp

http://www.msicomputer.com/pressrelease/GeForceFX.asp

http://www.proca.ro/svga-mx-400.html

http://www.abit.com.tw/abitweb/webjsp/spanish/pt_main_back.jsp?pPRODUCT_TYPE=Video+Card&pMODEL_NAME=Siluro+GF2+T200

http://www.asus.com/products/vga/v7100d/overview.htm

etc etc...

As I said above... if you like it then use it.

MuFu.

Woodelf
03-18-03, 05:52 PM
Looks like sombody has been busy.
I'm going to read all of those.

MuFu
03-18-03, 06:03 PM
The marketing obviously works as well! See..

Originally posted by ChrisRay
Digital Vibrance is an amazing feature, Expecially if you own an older monitor. it can change your entire perception of 2d color graphics. And its completely tweakable to your settings.

Hey, don't you just love hifi amplifiers that have an "increase volume slightly and change voicing/colouration to induce a warm, fuzzy feeling in listener" button? They sound great and DO WONDERS FOR CRAPPY SPEAKERS. ;)

MuFu.

Headbust
03-18-03, 06:05 PM
i downloaded omegas drivers but dont see the option for it anywhere...I am using the 42.30 that came with it. Should I be using the 40.72's that came with it also instead to enable this?

Woodelf
03-18-03, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Headbust
i downloaded omegas drivers but dont see the option for it anywhere...I am using the 42.30 that came with it. Should I be using the 40.72's that came with it also instead to enable this?

I'm suprised that you didn't have it allready in your color correction section. My GF3 came with it.
You are looking in Your display properties right.