View Full Version : Windows XP OEM To Be Killed Off In Jan '08
With Windows Vista sweeping into our homes it seems Windows XP is already not long for this world...
In an interview with APC Frank Luburic, Lenovo's ThinkPad Product Manager, said "The OEM version of XP Professional goes next January. At that point, they'll have no choice."
OEM – or Original Equipment Manufacturer – is the white box edition of the product which is given to manufacturers to pre-install and supply on new PCs. When this runs out the effective take up of the OS goes up in smoke.
Ok, so what - it's an old OS why would anyone want a new PC with XP? Because Vista places far greater demands on the hardware (notably RAM and graphics) meaning those on tight budgets will be forced to splash out on a heavier spec machine than they would have otherwise required (Aero interface or not).
In sum, it's a powerful statement of intent by Microsoft but not one that is likely to be universally welcomed. The price of progress people, suck it up.
Or buy a Mac.
Or Linux.
Link:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/pcs/news/2007/04/15/Windows-XP-OEM-To-Be-Killed-Off-In-Jan-08/p1
mojoman0
04-14-07, 11:38 PM
By Jan. '08 the common setup will have no problem maintaining vista's requirements. No biggie.
Bokishi
04-15-07, 12:46 AM
I predict Vista will have many of the kinks worked out by then and I'll jump aboard.
Blacklash
04-15-07, 09:45 AM
That doesn't bother me near as much MS saying they aren't going to support OneCare on Vista x64 because, "There is no consumer demand for it." So x64 is going to be ignored and neglected yet again?
There might be "more demand for it" if it was pushed like PCI-e was. x64 OS has been out a while now and it's time to get with the program. MS had a chance to do just that by making Vista x64 only, and ending support for XP as they are doing now.
Most security minded people want x64, and those with 4GB ram and up as well.
Rakeesh
04-15-07, 01:35 PM
Microsoft is pushing x64 quite well actually. Namely, as a condition for WHQL signing drivers for vista x32, they are required to make an x64 version available as well.
john19055
04-16-07, 08:03 AM
As long as games stay on the 32bit ,Vista 64bit is going to be like XP64bit with haveing not much support ,It looks like 64bit would catch on since CPU's have had 64bit support for quiet a while now
With Windows Vista sweeping into our homes it seems Windows XP is already not long for this world...
In an interview with APC Frank Luburic, Lenovo's ThinkPad Product Manager, said "The OEM version of XP Professional goes next January. At that point, they'll have no choice."
OEM – or Original Equipment Manufacturer – is the white box edition of the product which is given to manufacturers to pre-install and supply on new PCs. When this runs out the effective take up of the OS goes up in smoke.
Ok, so what - it's an old OS why would anyone want a new PC with XP? Because Vista places far greater demands on the hardware (notably RAM and graphics) meaning those on tight budgets will be forced to splash out on a heavier spec machine than they would have otherwise required (Aero interface or not).
In sum, it's a powerful statement of intent by Microsoft but not one that is likely to be universally welcomed. The price of progress people, suck it up.
Or buy a Mac.
Or Linux.
Link:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/pcs/news/2007/04/15/Windows-XP-OEM-To-Be-Killed-Off-In-Jan-08/p1
Linux + XBOX 360 FTW :bleh:
DiscipleDOC
04-16-07, 03:15 PM
I predict Vista will have many of the kinks worked out by then and I'll jump aboard.
+1
Rakeesh
04-16-07, 03:28 PM
As long as games stay on the 32bit ,Vista 64bit is going to be like XP64bit with haveing not much support ,It looks like 64bit would catch on since CPU's have had 64bit support for quiet a while now
Many games are going 64-bit actually. In 2 years, 64-bit is going to mean the difference between a good gaming PC and a horrible one, due to the addressing limitations of a 32-bit kernel. This I know for a fact as well, you can quote me on it later if you want.
However, as long as Vista 32 bit exists as a mainstream base platform, apps will still have to support 32 bit... unless they(as in software dev's) can afford to drop support for those users.
MS's strategy is to release a new OS every 3 years right? Then in roughly 2 more years, we should see yet another OS.. Perhaps this one.. lol
kevJ420
04-16-07, 03:56 PM
However, as long as Vista 32 bit exists as a mainstream base platform, apps will still have to support 32 bit... unless they(as in software dev's) can afford to drop support for those users.
MS's strategy is to release a new OS every 3 years right? Then in roughly 2 more years, we should see yet another OS.. Perhaps this one.. lol
I've never really thought perfect backwards compatibility should be questioned. Computers die after a while and then how are you going to be able to 100% enjoy the best of the 90s?
Bman212121
04-16-07, 05:59 PM
Many games are going 64-bit actually. In 2 years, 64-bit is going to mean the difference between a good gaming PC and a horrible one, due to the addressing limitations of a 32-bit kernel. This I know for a fact as well, you can quote me on it later if you want.
+1
I have several games that take almost 1GB of ram themselves. Once you throw Vista along side of it, having > 2GB ram is starting to become important.
Rakeesh
04-17-07, 01:35 PM
However, as long as Vista 32 bit exists as a mainstream base platform, apps will still have to support 32 bit... unless they(as in software dev's) can afford to drop support for those users.
There is no reason they can't. Games that are coming around which support 64-bit are going to include two binary sets.
Dragunov
04-17-07, 02:47 PM
well, I have Vista Ultimate 32-bit OEM, I gonna wait for x64 till everything is more mature (drivers, applications, games,.........)
Rakeesh
04-17-07, 03:58 PM
Personally I think if you are going to go with vista, there is no reason to not use x64. Vista already has compatibility issues as it is (as will any new OS.) If you need legacy support, then dual boot XP 32-bit.
Pretty much everything that works with vista 32-bit also works with vista 64-bit. Hardware/driver support is the same way.
Peoples-Agent
04-17-07, 05:21 PM
Personally I think if you are going to go with vista, there is no reason to not use x64. Vista already has compatibility issues as it is (as will any new OS.) If you need legacy support, then dual boot XP 32-bit.
Pretty much everything that works with vista 32-bit also works with vista 64-bit. Hardware/driver support is the same way.
But you can't deny most problems reside with Vista x64 still, especially if your into video encoding and making use of various apps that aren't "the norm" such as Nero, Norton etc
Getting things to work properly in Vista 32 is hard enough sometimes but Vista 64 really does take the piss. Infuriating!
Dragunov
04-17-07, 05:25 PM
that's why I still use Vista 32-bit and didn't make the move to 64-bit yet, maybe in a few years
The only positive at 64-bit, at the moment, is the amount of memory u can use comparing to 32-bit
But you can't deny most problems reside with Vista x64 still, especially if your into video encoding and making use of various apps that aren't "the norm" such as Nero, Norton etc
Getting things to work properly in Vista 32 is hard enough sometimes but Vista 64 really does take the piss. Infuriating!
Video encoding is faster on x64. Nero and Norton both work, i had them installed and fully working on vista x64.
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