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thor1182
04-16-07, 09:23 AM
on the intel side I have
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813188015
for mobo

and
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145033
for RAM

I would be up for an AMD platform, but I am worried that they will change sockets on me making it impossible to upgrade in a year if I want to.

Xion X2
04-16-07, 09:32 AM
First, and most importantly, do not go with a 680i motherboard if you want any kind of stability with your system. There are some around who will tell you "ohh.. it works great.. no problem, etc." but about 30-40% of the people who have them, hate them. Another 10% or so go on liking them even though they've had to RMA already. They're buggy as hell, the southbridge overheats like the Sahara, and they have a very poor reliability record.. no matter who manufactures them.

Some good alternatives to the 680i would be the board I have (Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus, not the P5N32-E SLI), which is a 650i hybrid with the 650i northbridge and 590SLI southbridge. This is the only Intel LGA775 SLI board I have owned that's been stable/reliable. I've had it for around two months now after going through 3 680i boards in 2 months that all died on me.


Secondly, AMD is moving to a new socket.. this fall, supposedly. AM2+. The desktop variation of the native-quad Barcelona chip will be coming to that platform. The current AM2 platform will be compatible with the Barcelona desktop variation but will not have the full 3.0 Hyper Transport memory controller that the AM2+ board would have. It will operate on 1.0. How much of an effect this will have on performance is questionable at this point, but I wouldn't want a native quad chip to be handicapped by my platform.

Have I confused you enough now?

Dazz
04-16-07, 09:39 AM
Ah the Nforce 680i is quite stable platform if you have it hook upto water cooling lol. If i was you as X2 said go pick up a 650i they run way cooler. My board runs 35C and 78C for the power regulators which is insaine. By far the hottest part in the system Not even my Geforce 8800GTX gets that hot!!
But it's stable for me :) but you would expect better temps considering my case has 5x 120mm fans 1x 40mm attached to the board & 4x 140mm fans :eek: AND IT STILL GETS DAMN WARM!!

thor1182
04-16-07, 10:07 AM
so then it sounds like intel wins, not just to find a motherboard.

Tygerwoody
04-16-07, 10:17 AM
is this thread a joke?

thor1182
04-16-07, 10:20 AM
no really, I am looking to build a new system.

thor1182
04-16-07, 10:24 AM
not sure if I like that board or not. ATM, I only have the one 8800 GTS to plug in , and SLi is not really needed. It just happends that the only way to get my 5+ SATA ports is on SLi boards

Xion X2
04-16-07, 10:26 AM
so then it sounds like intel wins, not just to find a motherboard.

For SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131153

Single card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131045

thor1182
04-16-07, 10:34 AM
going to go with the single card suggestion unless I see better.

radekhulan
04-16-07, 10:56 AM
Do you need SLI? If not, buy E6600 and P965 mobo, the best performance and stability you can get for you money. AMD X2 is a joke, had X2 4400+ and was very UNHAPPY with it..

Tygerwoody
04-16-07, 11:18 AM
Do you need SLI? If not, buy E6600 and P965 mobo, the best performance and stability you can get for you money. AMD X2 is a joke.
Pretty much sums up my opinions.

mullet
04-16-07, 12:10 PM
E6600, definitely!

+1

Absolution
04-16-07, 12:17 PM
First, and most importantly, do not go with a 680i motherboard if you want any kind of stability with your system. There are some around who will tell you "ohh.. it works great.. no problem, etc." but about 30-40% of the people who have them, hate them. Another 10% or so go on liking them even though they've had to RMA already. They're buggy as hell, the southbridge overheats like the Sahara, and they have a very poor reliability record.. no matter who manufactures them.


I thought the same thing, it seemed to be the MB but in my case, it was just bad ram that tested out fine in memtest but when I rma'ed it, it was the ram

thor1182
04-16-07, 12:40 PM
I was happy with my 4800 X2, and in some cases the 6000 was faster than the E6600.

Xion X2
04-16-07, 12:58 PM
I was happy with my 4800 X2, and in some cases the 6000 was faster than the E6600.

I would've liked to know what those cases were. I can tell you that there's a world of difference in speed between the X2 4400+ I had at 2.7gHz and my Conroe at stock speeds. And when you clock an E6600 over 3.5ghz it puts everything to shame.

thor1182
04-16-07, 01:02 PM
it was the CPU charts that Tom's did. It won on most of them I think. Either way I have more faith in the Core 2 chip platform anyways

Xion X2
04-16-07, 01:11 PM
Oh my god.. look, don't ever, ever, EVER believe anything that comes off Tom's Hardware. Do yourself a favor and stay away from that joke of a community. They have punk kids typing up their articles and running benchmarks that wouldn't know a computer from a toaster oven.

There is a world of difference in performance between the processors. My best time in SuperPi on my X2 clocked at 2.7ghz was 31 seconds flat. I ran the same test in 14.3 seconds with my E6600 at 3.6gHz.

Even at stock speeds on my Conroe I would still run the test about 10 seconds faster than my X2 ever did.

DiscipleDOC
04-16-07, 02:06 PM
I bought the AMD 6000 and I'm happy with it. If you're going to overclock, you may want to stick with the E6600.

thor1182
04-16-07, 02:09 PM
yeah there is little point to having the main parts of your system water cooled if you don't do a little OCing.

DiscipleDOC
04-16-07, 02:12 PM
yeah there is little point to having the main parts of your system water cooled if you don't do a little OCing.
Not necessarily....I w/c mine system because I do run games on my rig. I can't stand high temps...

Madpistol
04-16-07, 02:26 PM
The X2 6000+ is right there with the E6600, and in some cases, the 6000+ may win some of the benchmarks, but as soon as you OC the E6600 about 200mhz, it's game over for the X2 6000+. The fun part about the E6600 is that if you're lucky, you can OC it over 1Ghz or more (3.4Ghz clockspeed), and at that point, the X2 6000+ can't even begin to mess with the E6600.

Do yourself a favor and get the E6600. It's an awesome chip.

thor1182
04-16-07, 02:30 PM
now the only remaining task is to push the order button

(I'm going with the E6600 and that ASUS mb)

Saintster
04-16-07, 02:52 PM
Is the asus commando a good board? What is the best single card board or is that any one of the 965 boards. I've been saying I'll never own an Intel rig but with price cuts coming up I think I'll just buy 1 part at a time. first e6600 then mobo and then ram everything else is fine. I'll then migrate my current parts cpu,mobo,ram into my daughters rig. I'll try the other side and see how I like it.

Xion X2
04-16-07, 03:03 PM
What is the best single card board or is that any one of the 965 boards

One of the high-end 965 boards. Either Asus or Gigabyte. I had the P5B Deluxe with an FSB that would overclock over 500 and linked it earlier in this thread.

Saintster
04-16-07, 03:23 PM
One of the high-end 965 boards. Either Asus or Gigabyte. I had the P5B Deluxe with an FSB that would overclock over 500 and linked it earlier in this thread.



Got it thanks.Links are timing out on me I'll try later thanks again.