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AthlonXP1800
04-17-07, 12:24 AM
Here are the first Penryn performance numbers on 3.33GHz 45nm Core 2 quad core Penryn with massive 12MB L2 cache and 1333MHz FSB compared to new Core 2 Extreme QX6800 processor:

15 percent in imaging-related applications
25 percent for 3D rendering
40 percent for gaming
40 percent for video encoding (SSE4-optimized)

Also here are some performance numbers for 45nm Xeon with 1600MHz FSB:

45 performance percent increase on bandwidth-intensive workloads
25 percent increase "for servers using Java."

Look like AMD's quad core CPUs are doomed and 1 year too late to take the lead away from Core 2 Duo for gaming.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070416-intels-spring-idf-brings-details-on-penryn-soc-plans-and-discrete-gpu.html

MUYA
04-17-07, 12:30 AM
How can u say doomed when Penryn and Barcelona have not even been launched. Those benches are with the existing lineup not with Barcelona. Barcelona may be on par or exceed Peryn. Athlon, you really have a skewed perception at times. Let's not state something when it's really not that clear.

Blacklash
04-17-07, 12:33 AM
40% for gaming? One of those with a top o' the line 8900 will be nice.

marqmajere
04-17-07, 01:01 AM
and 100 percent to price. I wish computer parts weren't so expensive. :(

Bman212121
04-17-07, 01:40 AM
40% for gaming? One of those with a top o' the line 8900 will be nice.

That same article is at anandtech. Given the 10% increase in clock and 50% increase in cache, a lot of the 40% would be created by those two items alone.


At IDF Beijing Intel unveiled a little more about Penryn performance; it compared a quad-core 3.33GHz (1333MHz FSB) Yorkfield with 12MB of L2 cache (2 x 6MB per dual core die) to a quad-core Core 2 Extreme QX6800 2.93GHz (1066MHz FSB) Kentsfield with 8MB of L2 cache (2 x 4MB). According to Intelís own benchmarks, Intel saw a 15% increase in imaging related applications, 25% in 3D rendering tests, greater than 40% in games, and a greater than 40% increase in video encoding performance when SSE4 support was utilized.

Obviously some of the performance improvement can be attributed to the higher clock speed and faster FSB of the Yorkfield system, while the remaining would be due to architectural enhancements and larger cache of Penryn. The percentage improvement Intel is indicating with Penryn is quite high, but as weíre comparing across different clock speeds itís a bit of a skewed comparison. Donít expect Penryn to have the same performance impact that Conroe did upon its introduction, but rather expect an evolutionary continuation of the performance weíve seen from Intel thus far. Unlike the other P in Intelís codename history, there are no terrible surprises with Penryn that will result in a step back in performance.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2968&p=2

RAY16
04-17-07, 01:42 AM
So, when are these supposed to launch anyways?

buffbiff21
04-17-07, 01:53 AM
Q3 I read...

But that is still mega-vague.

and the way Conroe is doing... I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Amuro
04-17-07, 02:03 AM
Q3 I read...

But that is still mega-vague.

and the way Conroe is doing... I wouldn't get your hopes up.
No, production will begin in Q3 but we won't see product launch till Q1 2008.

Bearclaw
04-17-07, 02:04 AM
and 100 percent to price. I wish computer parts weren't so expensive. :(
QFT. I wonder how much it will be at launch.

CaptNKILL
04-17-07, 07:01 AM
Hmm... 40% in gaming is quite a bit. I wonder where they pulled that figure from.

This kind of sucks though. Why would they release info about this chip when Barcelona isn't even out yet? It just makes anything released before Penryn seem like a poor buying decision in the long run.

MUYA
04-17-07, 07:51 AM
Hmm... 40% in gaming is quite a bit. I wonder where they pulled that figure from.

Where the graphics subsystem is not a factor? low res and no aa and af? maybe. Take all this with a pinch of salt till actual launch!

Igor01
04-17-07, 09:20 AM
Hmm... 40% in gaming is quite a bit. I wonder where they pulled that figure from.

I hope it's not just some benches done at 640x480 with minimum graphic detail to remove GPU as a factor. Ideally I'd like to see scores at some realistic resolutions with various AA/AF settings otherwise the "40% improvement" doesn't mean anything at all.

ViN86
04-17-07, 09:32 AM
Look like AMD's quad core CPUs are doomed and 1 year too late to take the lead away from Core 2 Duo for gaming.
there is literally nothing to back this claim up atm.

superklye
04-17-07, 09:33 AM
The FUD smells extra strong this morning

russ_3d
04-17-07, 11:02 AM
The FUD smells extra strong this morning

yeah, the force is strong with you atm isnt it :p

Mr_LoL
04-17-07, 02:21 PM
I cant wait neither. Barcelona, Penryn its all getting a bit exciting. I'll bet it'll cost some seroius £ though.

CaptNKILL
04-18-07, 01:59 AM
Hmm... 40% in gaming is quite a bit. I wonder where they pulled that figure from.

This kind of sucks though. Why would they release info about this chip when Barcelona isn't even out yet? It just makes anything released before Penryn seem like a poor buying decision in the long run.
Wow I'm smart... when I posted this I thought Penryn was a future AMD CPU for some reason. :retard:

Now it makes sense at least...

Arioch
04-18-07, 02:21 AM
Sheesh - may as well throw my QX6700 in the trash already. ;)