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Tactics
08-19-02, 07:28 AM
I'm sure this has been asked a million times :) but I'm going to upgrade. If you seen my other thread about having that scan disk issue everytime I restart my computer, I think it's time to upgrqade anyway. I haven't reformatted in about a year. Anyway I only have a 10GB and i'm around 2 gig free and it's only a 5400 drive and sometimes the performance is slow.

What's out there now that you guys suggest? I assume I'll go with ATA100/7200 I will do an overhaul to Hammer and NV30 with some quality DDR next year so a good HD can start me off. thx again.

-Tac

FastM
08-19-02, 08:55 AM
I think the two best choices right now are the WD 120gig drives with the 8meg cache, or to save a little money and still very fast are the Maxtor D740X drives.

darkmiasma
08-19-02, 09:01 AM
Western Digital 120GB (Special Edition) 7200 RPM with 8MB cache

Tactics
08-27-02, 12:10 PM
Well I'm about to buy the OEM *points to first link* for $107.00
It seems like a good price. I'm also getting it at a company I have bought from before.

www.resellerratings.com for those who don't know and want the low down on some of these companys out there that claim to have it all and give the best prices. I live by that site.



http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150127&Category_Code=HD

Can someone tell me the difference between the one I want to buy and this one. *points to second link* I see where it says 2MB for the buffer but how could it be more $$$? The one I want has 8MB and all those other specs but there not listed. I found this at alot of sites doing reviews:

The 80GB Special Edition Caviar which is christened as the WD800JB, is the latest drive to be announced in the WD Special Edition line up. Why 'Special Edition'? Well, while all the other 7200rpm drives are stuck with 2MB of cache memory, Western Digital decided to include an amazing 8MB of cache memory into their Special Edition drives which is 4X more than any other drive in the market, making them something really special!

Specifications


80 GB Hard Drive WD800JB
Rotational Speed 7,200 RPM (nominal)
Buffer Size 8 MB
Buffer To Disk 602.0 Mbits/s (Max)
Read Seek Time (Average) 8.9 ms
Write Seek Time (Average) 10.9 ms (average)
Track-To-Track Seek Time 2.0 ms (average)
Full Stroke Seek 21.0 ms (average)
Average Latency 4.2 ms (nominal)
Mode 5 Ultra ATA 100.0 MB/s
Mode 4 Ultra ATA 66.6 MB/s
Mode 2 Ultra ATA 33.3 MB/s
Mode 4 PIO 16.6 MB/s
Mode 2 multi-word DMA 16.6 MB/s

What gives? 2nd drive is more $$$ with less cache.



http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150111&Category_Code=HD

:D

FastM
08-27-02, 02:16 PM
I thought the 8meg Cache SE drives were only available in 100 or 120gigs so it could be an advertising error.

But in any case this would be the one to order.

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150128&Category_Code=HD

Tactics
08-27-02, 03:24 PM
They actually come in 80GB also.

http://www.exhardware.com/reviews.php?Id=88

http://bizrate.com/marketplace/product_info/details__cat_id--410,prod_id--6518947.html

:)

volt
08-27-02, 04:11 PM
I love my WD 120 Gig 8MB Cache :)

Tactics
08-27-02, 06:40 PM
I just bought mine! 80GB at newegg for $106 free shipping. :)
I really would never use 120GB that's why I didn't dish out the extra cash. All I do is play games. Now i'm going to invest in some round cables. There cheap enough and look better.

34 yrs old and just loving PC games... big kid at heart that never leaves us, lol :cool:

PCarr78
08-27-02, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by darkmiasma
Western Digital 120GB (Special Edition) 7200 RPM with 8MB cache

Yea, agreed. That's a realli nice drive.

Other than that, Maxtor. I have had my maxtors running nonstop for 2.5 years. Never a single problem!

PCarr78
08-27-02, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Tactics
Now i'm going to invest in some round cables. There cheap enough and look better.

Don't! They can actually contribute to HDD failure!

Tactics
08-28-02, 11:11 AM
Too late... I was doing some research and came up with people who buy 24' or 36' cables instead of 18' it can lead to problems with the HD. Maybe that's what your talking about -- other than that I read a ton of reviews and no one mentioned any problems. hmmm..

Gator
08-28-02, 01:06 PM
another vote for Western Digital 120GB (Special Edition) 7200 RPM with 8MB cache

PCarr78
08-28-02, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Tactics
Too late... I was doing some research and came up with people who buy 24' or 36' cables instead of 18' it can lead to problems with the HD. Maybe that's what your talking about -- other than that I read a ton of reviews and no one mentioned any problems. hmmm..


Rounded Cables

Some companies have gotten really cute with the design of what has become known as rounded cables. Depending on the manufacturer, the ribbons are sliced into single or multiple strands and then bundled tightly. In most cases, there should be no problems, however, there have been numerous suspicions on many bulletin boards about rounded cables causing higher coaster rates while burning CDs. Likewise, users of rounded cables appear to suffer from abnormally high failure rates of HDDs.

http://www.lostcircuits.com/advice/ibm_maxtor/3.shtml



Read the entire article at
http://www.lostcircuits.com/advice/ibm_maxtor/

Ive been reading this site for a long time, and they can definitely be trusted, unlike TomsAdickandhehasahardwaresite.com

Gator
08-29-02, 08:25 AM
you could always make your own round cables for CDRW. I've never been able to do it properly with udma/66/100/133 cables, but for standard IDE cables it's simple and educational. Simply take a razor blade and make a small slit in the gap between lines about every 5 lines, then pull them apart (pulling apart means less chance of cutting something your not suppose to). Then take some plastic ties or electrical tape, and you got nice neat cables! It's kinda fun, and very easy to do, make you feel l334. :D

http://www.omegacorner.com/old/images/ribboncutting.jpg

for more info: http://www.omegacorner.com/old/oldtips.htm

darkmiasma
08-29-02, 10:18 AM
make you feel l334.

very exciting ... i always wanted to be "leea" ... its much cooler than being "leet"

:D

just busting your balls Gator ... don't take it personally ... i actually got a good laugh out of the typo ...

- mike

Matthyahuw
08-29-02, 12:40 PM
Rounding ATA 66/100/133 cables is like one of the WORST things you can do!
The cables are in a ribbon for a reason...
There is a grounding wire in between every transmission wire in them to prevent crosstalk. And if you round them by slicing them up, you'll have a higher chance for crosstalk, which will lead to data loss...

Vanzagar
06-05-12, 01:34 PM
^ BAN...