Final Flight/Dreamcatcher Muck-up Upsets Fans

[Mod]

Upset fans of The Matrix were left booing the finale of a screening of Dreamcatcher in Hollywood on Thursday when a projectionist misplaced a copy of animated short The Final Flight of the Osiris.

Fans lined up outside the Writers Guild of America theater and then saw alien thriller Dreamcatcher just to see the nine minute animated film from the makers of The Matrix, which was due to be debuted after the film.

But when the house lights went up and a red-faced theater staffer explained there was no extra feature, audience members booed.

One guest said, "I've given up a Thursday night just to see this Matrix special. I can't help thinking it was just a ruse to get us in here and watch Dreamcatcher. Thank God it wasn't a bad film."

The Final Flight of The Osiris will be shown across America before Dreamcatcher, which opened yesterday.

http://www.teenhollywood.com/

:afraid:

[sonaboy]

"Thank god it wasn't a bad film."
hahahahah...I've heard reports that Dreamcatcher is basically the "Showgirls" of science fiction.
hahahahah...
decide for yourself though..but think about how many Stephen King novels actually translated to screen nicely.
You can count them on one hand.
The Shining and Carrie being at the top - lots of others debated afterwards..

[The Baron]

Kubrick directed the Shining, so of course it's a fantastic movie. Only problem is that Stephen King DESPISED Kubrick's version of the Shining, but that shows how much King knows about movies...

But gah, when is FFOTS going to be available for download?

[sonaboy]

yeah....and for some strange reason, they REMADE the shining..i saw the DVD at the vid store recently..
i was like, "What the hell?? are they going to do a better job than KUBRICK and Jack Nicholson? puhLEEEZ..."

there are very few directors working today that understand horror, and how to transfer the emotion viscerally to the viewer.
David Cronenberg is one.
Brad Anderson is another.
William Friedken who made The Exorcist, is cranking out crap these days, but proved himself a few times.

It's really unsatisfying these days to go see "scary movies" because most of the time, what you get is scares leading to a punchline, or worse, NO SCARES leading to a punchline, or things that are so derivative and self-aware, that actors actually have to set up situations through exposition, and then get smoked anyway, which leaves the viewers without sympathy or involvement. I've almost given up on the genre.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by The Baron
But gah, when is FFOTS going to be available for download?

um, I don't think it is going to be available for free (legal) download. if you go to theanimatrix.com there are four episodes listed with the message on each available: "x of four complete episodes completely free." this leads me to believe they're releasing 4 of 9 episodes free, in an effort to get people hooked to buy the DVD when it comes out.

[PsychoSy]

Kubrick directed the Shining, so of course it's a fantastic movie. Only problem is that Stephen King DESPISED Kubrick's version of the Shining, but that shows how much King knows about movies...

He was pissed because Kubrick, having first promised that he would stay true and faithful to the novel (which convinced King to sell the rights in the first place), he turns around and pretty much rewrites the whole story.

I don't blame Stephen King one single bit.

Basically, Kubrick left a bad taste in King's mouth and he never intended to sell the movie rights to any of his works ever again. What changed his mind was Rob "Meathead" Reiner wanted to capture King's novels accurately on film as best as possible and founded "Castle Rock Entertainment" as a homage to King. Reiner then wanted to prove himself and asked for the rights to bring "The Body" to the silver screen. King sold the rights and was pleased with the results - the critically acclaimed "Stand By Me". Reiner's studio then went on to faithfully adapt King's "Misery" and other King works, much to his enjoyment.

How many Stephen King novels actually translated to screen nicely?
You can count them on one hand.

The Green Mile
Shawshank Redemption
Carrie
Hearts In Atlantis
Salem's Lot
Misery
The Dead Zone
Stand By Me
Needful Things

Most of these were done by Castle Rock Entertainment. :)

yeah...and for some strange reason, they REMADE the shining..i saw the DVD at the vid store recently..i was like, "What the hell?? are they going to do a better job than KUBRICK and Jack Nicholson? puhLEEEZ..."

I actually rented it. Originally, it was an ABC Mini-Series and King wrote the screenplay as well as served as Executive director. Although it's quite lengthy (5-6 hours), I like it much better than Kubrick's bastardization. The differerences are VAST - like night and day.

Kubrick makes gross additions to King's original novel like the whole hedge-maze stalking scene at the end, the axe thru Dick Halloran's chest, and countless other abominations (in the original novel as well as with the remake, Jack Torrance never kills anyone - not a single soul).

Nicholson's portrayal of Jack Torrance was waaaaay "over the top" and you're never given a reason why Jack done the things he did. The Kubrick version pretty much says, "let's stick a guy and his family in a hotel located in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and have him go crazy for some reason" and that's it. It never mentions Jack's past at all!

The remake doesn't ignore these things at all. The truth is, Jack Torrance is just a stressed out, struggling writer and recovering alcoholic with anger management problems. He is deeply scared that he'll turn out like his own abusive father someday and end up hurting either his wife for son. Sadly, the spirits and gouls of The Overlook Hotel do just that and MORE. They not only convince him to miss his AA meetings and that his family is merely trying to "hold him back financially and emotionally and they must be dealt with", it also drives him insane enough to go back to the bottle. Jack also was "convinced" that his son Doc imagines having psychic abilities just for attention - even when Doc had displayed them time and time again. But the reality is the hotel is playing Jack for a fool promising him "better times" if he kills them.

After he goes on a bender-induced rampage chasing his family through the joint with an oversized croquet mallet (at which point he bashes a hole through a door, pokes his bloodied head and grinning manically simply says..."Boo!"), it's his son's love and his gift in "The Shining" that is able to cut a swath through Jack's madness long enough for him to come to grips with the reality of his own abuse and the hotel's ongoing deception. He then must use this momentary period of sanity to save his wife and son before the hotel consumes his mental state all over again.

Kubrick's Version is basically an official sequel to "One Flew Over The Coo-Coo's Next". It's merely a showcase of Jack Nicholson's versatility and presense as an actor. Other than the names of the characters and the title, it's nothing near what King had been expecting and what he'd been promised.

Personally, the only good movies in Kubrick's legacy is "Full Metal Jacket" and "A Clockwork Orange". But, in Kubrick's defense, some of Nicholson's quotes in the movie will stand the test of time...especially this one! :p

Wendy: (swinging the bat at him with short, chopping strokes) Stay away from me! I just want to go back to my room.
Jack: Why?
Wendy: Well, I'm very confused. I just need a chance to think things over.
Jack: You've had your whole f--king life to think things over. What good's a few minutes more gonna do you now?
Wendy: Stay away from me! Please! Don't hurt me!
Jack: I'm not gonna hurt ya. Wendy, darling, light of my life. I'm not gonna hurt ya. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I said, I'm not gonna hurt ya. I'm just gonna bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash 'em right the f--k in.

:p :p :p

[LiquidX]

I would have rioted:mad:

[PsychoSy]

I don't go to movies often so when I went to catch Dreamcatcher, I was confused at all hell when that crazy 20 minute "Osirius" trailer began. I actually walked out the theatre and asked the usher, "You sure Dreamcatcher is playing in 8 here?

"Yep..."

Went back and sat for 5 minutes. Dreamcatcher didn't start and that trailer was still going. Got up and grabbed the usher again and escorted him into the screening room. "I've been here 15 minutes and the movie hasn't started yet. What's this deal?"

"Oh, that's just animated short. It's almost over. Dreamcatcher starts immediately after."

I about demanded my cash back right then and there! The board in the lobby states 3:50 was the starttime of Dreamcatcher but there was 10 minutes of previews along with that 20 minute trailer. The actual opening credits of Dreamcatcher didn't begin until about 4:30!! :mad:

Now, I've read the book and loved it. The movie is, actually, quite surprizing. I have to give credit to Kasdan & Goldman for cramming about 80% of the book into a 2-hour movie, but that's about the extent of it. As a movie, Dreamcatcher falls flat due to viewers never given time to give a **** about any of the characters. Why? Because that's the remaining 20% of the novel, which would've costed Kasdan another hour of video tape to convey.

Another problem with Dreamcatcher is the casting. Now, truth be told, they couldn't have found better actors to play Gary Jones (aka "Jonesy"), "Duddits" (Donnie Whalberg), and Owen Underhill (Tom Sizemore). Sadly, as fine as an actor Jason Lee is, he just doesn't work as Beaver Clarendon. If my memory of the novel is correct, "Beaver" was more of a biker-type guy that, upon first appearance, seems very aloof but actually has one hell of a brain on his shoulders. While reading the book, I kept visualizing "Beaver" as looking exactly like Rick "Dog Faced Gremlin" Steiner (a former WCW wrestler) and I actually would've casted him for this role.

Another abomination to the casting is two-fold - changing Kurtz to "Curtis" and giving the role to Morgan Freeman. Fine actor, but suffers from the same "just doesn't fit here" malady that plagues Jason Lee in this film. In the novel, Kurtz is a freakin' lunatic barely scraping by on what little fumes of sanity left in the old gas tank. He's not flamoyant nor does he really give off the impression that he's a closet homosexual.

Dirty old white man that likes kiddie porn, yes! :D

Having homosexual tendancies towards his sub-o Owen Underhill, oh hells no. :rolleyes:

Am I against a the black Morgan Freeman playing him? Not at all - it's just he doesn't fit. Put it to you this way - the only simularities between Morgan Freeman's "Curtis" and the novel's "Kurtz" are the script and those eyebrows from hell. The result is the most memorable, dispicable, and yet fun & hilarious characters in the novel is reduced to a forgetable performance by the usually unforgetable Freeman (he was balls-on perfect as Red in "Shawshank Redemption"). Bottom line - the screenplay for Kurtz character alone pales in comparison to the crotchety, gung-ho, rocking-back-and-forth-tossing-Bible-quotes R. Lee Ermey-esque madman he really is in the novel and Morgan Freeman simply can not save him.

Have any of you seen an infomercial late at night with some old guy pushing his "JuiceMan" juice maker? Hilarious guy who's very dramatic "live...food...live bodies! Food's that are cooked, Processed? Dead fooood...DEATH! DEATH! You're deteriorating." If you've seen this guy and his informerical, he's exactly who I visualized Kurtz as when I read the novel. :p

His name is Jay Kordich.

http://infomercial.tvheaven.com/juiceman.htm

Don't know if he can act or not but he'd make a perfect Kurtz (as least with him, the eyebrows come pre-packaged). Personally, my prime candidate for Kurtz in "Dreamcatcher" would've been none other than Robert DeNiro. Even with a castrated screenplay, I think he could've pulled off Kurtz better than Freeman. DeNiro can play a loon with very little time in front of the camera but Freeman has been typecast into so many "nice guy" rolls that he simply can't pull off a believable villiain unless he's got the majority of the screen time for his character to develope.

So, what should you do with your $8?

1) Watch "Dreamcatcher".
2) Read "Dreamcatcher".

If those were your only choices, I'd say grab the 400+ page paperback first. By the time you're finished with that, the movie will be for rental on DVD or on InDemand PPV. People that watch Dreamcatcher before reading the novel might be hardpressed to appreciate the movie because it really needed an extra hour (and the remaining 20% of the novel) for the screen characters to really develope.

[Mod]

Dreamcather comes 11 april here in Brazil. But I will just go there to watch the cartoon, Dreamcatcher will be just an add on . :matrix:

[The Baron]

Personally, the only good movies in Kubrick's legacy is "Full Metal Jacket" and "A Clockwork Orange".

That is so wrong on so many levels... but that's another thread. ;)

[PsychoSy]

If you even think "Eyes Wide Shut", I'll swat you with the goofy stick. :p

I tell ya, I could've spent better time (and less money) sleeping! :angel:

B-O-R-I-N-G!! :D