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Mr Bigman
05-14-07, 01:21 PM
Why is alot of folks migrating to EVGA? Isn't Asus the company people look too for gaming boards?

I heard EVGA has good boards but nothing like the P5N or P5B series.

I go by whats been hot all these years and what OEM's follow like Falcon, And alienware who use ASUS.

nekrosoft13
05-14-07, 01:27 PM
good for you, you like asus, buy asus

i will stick with my evga

stevemedes
05-14-07, 01:29 PM
AFAIK, it's not EVGA that makes the motherboards, it's Nvidia. Evga just puts their name on it.

Tr1cK
05-14-07, 01:32 PM
AFAIK, EVGA contracts out the manufacturing. They do spec some components as well. My NF41 is actually a Jetway board, but with higher quality caps, etc.

stevemedes
05-14-07, 02:06 PM
AFAIK, EVGA contracts out the manufacturing. They do spec some components as well. My NF41 is actually a Jetway board, but with higher quality caps, etc.

This could be true as well. I always thought Nvidia made the reference design then EVGA just rebadges it basically. I remember hearing the Evga NF4 is a jetway somewhere.

kevJ420
05-14-07, 06:28 PM
Why is alot of folks migrating to EVGA? Isn't Asus the company people look too for gaming boards?

I heard EVGA has good boards but nothing like the P5N or P5B series.

I go by whats been hot all these years and what OEM's follow like Falcon, And alienware who use ASUS.

I thought alienware used their own boards.
(I thought they were a board partner to nvidia)
Whose power supplies do they use?

Greasy
05-14-07, 06:32 PM
I think the current EVGA board is manufactured by foxcon. (just like all the BFG board)

I have owned mostly ASUS boards, and to be honest their quality controls sucks ass. I've had more problems with their boards than any. Then again I've owned a LOT of asus boards versus just a few from MSI and EVGA.

Not had a single problem from my current board. (680i EVGA)

RussianHAXOR
05-14-07, 06:53 PM
Why is alot of folks migrating to EVGA? Isn't Asus the company people look too for gaming boards?

I heard EVGA has good boards but nothing like the P5N or P5B series.

I go by whats been hot all these years and what OEM's follow like Falcon, And alienware who use ASUS.

Lets just say... evga is the best!

*I'm rmaing my Asus....*

Mr Bigman
05-14-07, 08:18 PM
People know ASUS, and they been doing it for 18 years. Now Gigabyte is damn good. They been in the biz for 21 years. I used Gigabyte boards and had no probs with them.

RussianHAXOR
05-14-07, 08:20 PM
What does people knowing Asus have to do with people buying evga boards? People are making the switch... as will i.... after i upgrade to core 2.

Rytr
05-14-07, 09:08 PM
Once the tech starts showing up evenly distributed among the boards offered you look for the quality of components and the implementation of the bios for the things you want and need. Sometimes you would be suprised who comes out ahead in giving you what you want.

Tr1cK
05-15-07, 09:02 AM
Manufactures seemingly have their own cycles of crap. I remember when DFI was the equivalent of an ECS and ECS never thought of making anything costing more than the budget sector would allow.

Asus was a nice maker when they first opened up for a few years, then the quality fell off, now they are getting back into a good position.

All EVGA does is contract someone out to make their products, specifying components and performance along the way. It's a very smart move that relieves them of tons of liability and is just a win-win for whomever they contract with too.

JayG30
05-15-07, 05:46 PM
The EVGA board was not "made" by Nvidia. But they do have something to do with it. The EVGA board is built in exact replication to the Nvidia reference board. Plus I also have heard the rumors that Foxconn manufactured it. Foxconn manufactures a lot of the board people use. They are the largest OEM motherboard manufacturer in the world I believe.

Reason people are buying the EVGA 680i board is because (1.) It supports SLI (2.) It is affordable compared to DFI and others (3.) It is one of the best quad-core overclockers (best of 680i) and VERY good at Core 2 Duo (4.) It's been out longer than others, meaning more mature BIOS right now (5.) They handled the bad boards well by replacing them for people (aka good customer service).

There's probably more reasons why, but right now I don't remember. Where did you get the idea that Asus is where you go to find gaming/performance boards? Thats silly. Asus was pretty crappy for many many many years. Abit was one of the best, along with DFI, back some time before as well. I think just about every manufacturer has produced a great board at one time or another. Going to sites to see what alienware (:thumbdwn:) and others are using is pointless. Saying that one company is the only way to go for performance is another no no. Instead of doing what so many people seem to do nowadays, why don't you learn about the boards and make real educated decisions about them instead of acting (to some extent) like a fanboy. Not saying you are but in a sense thats what your talking about.

Mr Bigman
05-15-07, 08:51 PM
I always liked ASUS cuz i know it and used it for years and seen it in alot of gaming rig custom sites like Sharky's, and what Alienware uses. HP uses them too and i believe Sony uses them. I know there are better boards out there to choose form but i know ASUS and used them for 10 years since the BX days.

I actually think the best would be Tyan. There stuff is rock solit and highend. but i don't think there making core2duo boards now.

I did see some stuff on EVGA in Hard(O)'s site and he found EVGA clocks higher than ASUS.

JayG30
05-15-07, 11:37 PM
I always liked ASUS cuz i know it and used it for years and seen it in alot of gaming rig custom sites like Sharky's, and what Alienware uses. HP uses them too and i believe Sony uses them. I know there are better boards out there to choose form but i know ASUS and used them for 10 years since the BX days.

I actually think the best would be Tyan. There stuff is rock solit and highend. but i don't think there making core2duo boards now.

I did see some stuff on EVGA in Hard(O)'s site and he found EVGA clocks higher than ASUS.

Tyan has boards that support Core 2 Duo (I believe quad as well) but I don't think you really want to use them unless your building a server or something. Tyan is primarily a server company. No doubt that their server motherboards are very nice...but for gaming???

I guess if you want to stay with what you know then you can spend a good amount on one of the ASUS workstation motherboards that are really nice. I forget the exact name but it's something like WS Pro, and there are about 3 variations of the board. If you've been following ASUS for all these years then I feel sorry for you because before recently there boards have been pretty half ass IMO. Even this time around their boards haven't been the best, but they have been the first into the market. Just so you know I own a P5B-Deluxe and a P5W DH so I'm not just hating on them without trying.

And like I said, looking at what OEM or gaming computer builders (if you can even call alienware that) are using isn't really the best thing to do if your looking for what to buy. They usually take a good 3 to 4 months to catch up with what is performing the best. Either because supply is to short on new releases or they wait to see what the real OC'er in the community have to say before making a choice. I'm not sure the exact reason but it's a fact none the less. As far as Sony and HP...are you serious? Who cares what they use. I highly doubt that the boards they use on majority are manufactured by ASUS. Maybe ASUS puts their sticker on it but Foxconn has been making OEM boards since the beginning of time. You just don't hear their name as much because that's the way they like it.

Just try to be a little more open minded about company and board choice. There is no reason to live and die by one brand. Get the most out of your money.

nV`andrew
05-15-07, 11:54 PM
AFAIK, EVGA contracts out the manufacturing. They do spec some components as well. My NF41 is actually a Jetway board, but with higher quality caps, etc.


thats the one im running, and its been great so far. the layout is pretty good and its been stable with all my overclocks. i like it, especially for the price

t3hl33td4rg0n
05-17-07, 04:03 AM
Honestly, I cant take Asus anymore. I had a A7N8X-E which just stopped POSTing one day for no reason whatsoever, and my A8N32-SLI feels the need to reflash its BIOS everytime an overclock goes wrong.

Believe it or not, if i never downloaded that BIOS from asus before i started overclocking, i wouldve been totally fux0red; and all I was doing was raising the FSB 15MHz and changed the HTT from 5x to 4x. And don't even get me started on "PEG link" and the mysterious raising of the PCI-E bus to 200MHz!

I'll tell you, Asus officially sucks in my book, nothing but problems. MSI > Asus


Although, I am curious about eVGA. My next board will either be eVGA/DFI/MSI.

zoomy942
05-17-07, 09:37 AM
evga boards are pretty nice. but i'm an epox man, through and through

darkrider01
05-17-07, 12:14 PM
I've had a few ASUS boards, back in the P2 and P3 days. They were good boards and pretty nice overclockers. I also had an ABit board back then, and it stomped the ASUS boards I had in overclocking and features. I then bought a Gigabyte board and it had even more features.

This is how I see them:

ASUS - Overpriced for features, but pretty solid (worst BIOS update intervals)
Abit - Excellent features for a low price
Gigabyte - Expensive, but best components and features

If EVGA's graphics cards are any indicator, their motherboards should be among the best out there. they push the envelope in graphics, so their mobos should be at that same level.

john19055
05-18-07, 06:48 PM
ASUS was my favorite company and I loved there boards untill I had one go bad ,and I could'nt get no help at all ,I sent them about five emails in regards of my board and I fineally threw it in the trash ,Evga is a great company ,sure the 680i SLI had problems when it first cam out ,but so did all the other companies with the 680i SLI boards,Evga was right on top fixing things and they still are ,They even have it if your board does not overclock good ,you can just send it back and the will send you the updated A1 board,how many companies will do that .They have a great form support .life Time warranty.It is hard to beat EVGA when it comes to support and wanting to help you.

t3hl33td4rg0n
05-19-07, 01:04 AM
I had a post deleted on ASUS's forum when I asked about how when COM1/2 are disabled, the A8N32-SLI completely ignored the fact that they were wide open for use (IRQ 3/4). But they never got used.... Instead I had USB/LAN/X-Fi all sharing the same IRQ lol. Well, just to further my comments earlier about asus.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that its the only nforce4 board thats not compatible with nTune.