View Full Version : G90/92: Is this why 8800s are being sold off here?
C'mon, who has the inside scoop. The rumor mill has been dead, and it needs something to stir it up...
NVIDIA confirms Next-Gen close to 1TFlop in 4Q07
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/230
Inquiring minds want to know! :D
nekrosoft13
05-23-07, 02:43 PM
4th QTR is still far away
i don't know why anyone would sell 8800 now, to wait over half a year for a new card.
Sure, but that's if it's really Q4. What would be a juicy rumor, is if it is closer to early Q3.
Since B3D also reports that TSMC is now supply constrained on its 65nm production, that gives me a bit of hope that some of this may be due to Nvidia orders (and not just R610/630 eating up all the wafer starts)...
I'm hoping its either r650, g90, or both that are clogging the pipes right now :).
Man the pace of videocard development is relentless especially from Nvidias side.
JohnDoe641
05-23-07, 02:57 PM
1Gagglyflips! Sweet. :)
lightman
05-23-07, 03:21 PM
4th QTR is still far away
i don't know why anyone would sell 8800 now, to wait over half a year for a new card.
4th quarter is 4 months and a week away.
But yeah, doesn't make sense anyway.
What is interesting is, will AMD/ATI be able to ready the R650 by that time frame ? If not, they're in for a really hard time... (not to mention the fact that I don't expect the 650 to be leaps and bounds faster than the 600, while on the other hand G90... maybe...)
Madpistol
05-23-07, 03:26 PM
I'll stick with my 8800 GTX for a while. It's working so well right now that I don't see a need to upgrade.
I skipped the Geforce 7xxx series, and I can probably afford to skip the 9xxx series too. That's just my take on this though.
Edit: what I actually meant is that I spent $550 on my GTX, and it's not like I can afford to drop that kind of money on a new vid card every year.
Trademark
05-23-07, 03:28 PM
Hmm, doubt it, though it wouldn't suprise me as Nvidia will want to continue like an evil steamroller lol. r650 could be faster aswell, but yeh, just like G90, no specs, no pics, no wet dreams... yet :)
Man the pace of videocard development is relentless especially from Nvidias side.
No doubt, they're cut throat it seems.
I really wasnt expecting a new achitexture this year, maybe a 8900 in the fall but thats it.
No doubt, they're cut throat it seems.
I really wasnt expecting a new achitexture this year, maybe a 8900 in the fall but thats it.
Well, G80 was late. After all, it does take some time to design such architectures!
It looks like the next one might be more on schedule.
And like I'll have to begin to think to save a few pennies... :cool:
Edit 1: I just noticed this (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=90946) related thread ("nv skipping 8900's for 65nm parts?").
Edit 2: BTW as we're in the Rumor Mill, I won't resist speculating a bit : I believe this one might well behave as if it had doubled the number of ALUs per multiprocessor (16 SP per SM rather than the 8 we have now)
Well, G80 was late. After all, it does take some time to design such architectures!
ummmm....
walterman
05-24-07, 09:31 AM
Really interesting !
I think that the G80 architecture is very efficient, & i would love to see how Nvidia is going to make a new chip with 3x times more computing power.
C'mon, who has the inside scoop. The rumor mill has been dead, and it needs something to stir it up...
NVIDIA confirms Next-Gen close to 1TFlop in 4Q07
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/230
Inquiring minds want to know! :D
but but but dont we have that already with the r600?
If thats accurate, then is seems like the arguments to go SLI are less and less. One card like this would be about all anyone would need. Don't you think?
retsam> ummmm....
My source is The Mercury News (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/11/nvidia_launches.html):
Q: Do you consider it late?
Jen-Hsun: Yes, we tried to get it out last year. But it was just too big. So it’s late by our own standards. In the end, it cost us 4 years. It was important to get it right. There were 600 man years total. We started with 10 people working on it and grew to 300 eventually.
but but but dont we have that already with the r600?
Huh? :confused:
The only way I've seen r600 mentioned as a teraflop product is in CF. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I think Nv is asserting they will do it single card (presumably single chip too, but of course, who knows?)...
If thats accurate, then is seems like the arguments to go SLI are less and less. One card like this would be about all anyone would need. Don't you think?
For graphics, I'm more than happy with my G80. But my current screen, which I mostly use for text, is a standard desktop 1280x1024 lcd. I know that one day, I will switch to one that does full HD - and those WQUXGA (3840x2400) ones will probably then look very tempting... In addition, I have tasted stereoscopic-3D a few years ago, and that's something which I really would like to have again - and if I can, I will choose a screen with a response time that allows it.
So for the coming generation of games, if I am currently pleased with my current card, what I *really* would like is 9 Mpixels x 2 eyes = 18 Mpix per frame, that's 75 fps x 18 Mpix = 1350 Mpix/sec, of course fully shaded with full anti-aliasing, aniso and HDR.
Note that we've already passed a gigapixel/sec fully shaded, and I haven't even started to speak of begining to increase shader realism (and not even mentioning Super Hi-Vision (http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=173402762))...
I believe SLI will make sense for a long number of years... and then it will be time for the holodeck to come, of course. :D
retsam> ummmm....
My source is The Mercury News (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/11/nvidia_launches.html):
no one in the cummunity was exspecting g80 in 2005. but i think what he's referring to is a unified architecture in 2005 but not the g80 itself just because of the fact that g70 was just rearing its head.
Huh? :confused:
The only way I've seen r600 mentioned as a teraflop product is in CF. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I think Nv is asserting they will do it single card (presumably single chip too, but of course, who knows?)...
it was sarcasim..why buy one nv card when you can buy two ati's and have it now..lol:D
DansFace
05-24-07, 03:27 PM
Man the pace of videocard development is relentless especially from Nvidias side.
They did say they would never be bested by ATI again :]
slaWter
05-24-07, 03:29 PM
If thats accurate, then is seems like the arguments to go SLI are less and less. One card like this would be about all anyone would need. Don't you think?
I need SLI for good performance at 2560x1600. I don't think that'll change in the future.
I just hope we'll see G90 in 2007. Can't wait to upgrade.
walterman
05-24-07, 05:43 PM
I need SLI for good performance at 2560x1600. I don't think that'll change in the future.
I just hope we'll see G90 in 2007. Can't wait to upgrade.
You need it too for SSAA 2x @ 1280x1024 -> (2560x2048) rendering :)
Penryn + X38 + G92 for xmas :drooling:
AngelGraves13
06-01-07, 06:18 PM
Anyone know if NVIDIA will begin using multi-core tech on the 9 series? I remember reading that it's all leading there soon. 1 GB of graphics mem, multi-core design. That would be sweeeeeeet!
gahhhhh....no, we already have parrelle execution in the chips themselves...there is no need to go multicore like they do with cpu's...
AngelGraves13
06-01-07, 09:58 PM
Well that's where NVIDIA said they were headed by 2010. So, regardless if it's needed now or not...that's where we're headed.
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