Gains of war

[Kain]

Please read the attachment, it might surprise you.

[UDawg]

Copy and paste it. Please. :eek2:

[LORD-eX-Bu]

I fail to see your argument. If you are trying to bash the US for getting a profit from oil sales after the war, heh, I don't care, good business. And you guys were up in arms over the cost of this war:p

[Kain]

Originally posted by UDawg71
Copy and paste it. Please. :eek2: Uhhh...

It's a PowerPoint file.

[Kain]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
I fail to see your argument. If you are trying to bash the US for getting a profit from oil sales after the war, heh, I don't care, good business. And you guys were up in arms over the cost of this war:p Profit from other people's death and you don't care? :eek2:

[LORD-eX-Bu]

roflmao, if you wanna look at it that way, no I don't;)

They fought back, we dropped em', whats the problem with that?:confused: Oh and by the way, you wanna take a look at profiting off of people's deaths? take a look at Saddam and the palaces he once had. He used money given to Iraq to feed the people to build those palaces which he doesn't need;) Saddam has also killed more muslims than any dictator, yeah, so, tell me, why are we so bad again?:lol:

[Kain]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
roflmao, if you wanna look at it that way, no I don't;)

They fought back, we dropped em', whats the problem with that?:confused: What my problem is that America went to war FOR THE MONEY ALONE. That is what bothers me. They fought back?? Well, no duh. It's THEIR country and they are defending it from America's invation. Who won't fight back for their country if someone started bomb it??

[Kain]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
roflmao, if you wanna look at it that way, no I don't;)

They fought back, we dropped em', whats the problem with that?:confused: Oh and by the way, you wanna take a look at profiting off of people's deaths? take a look at Saddam and the palaces he once had. He used money given to Iraq to feed the people to build those palaces which he doesn't need;) Saddam has also killed more muslims than any dictator, yeah, so, tell me, why are we so bad again?:lol: It's his country and he can do whatever he wants as long as he keeps it within his borders. Who is America to go and stop him??

[sbp]

Problem is Hussein doesn't confine his dirty activities to Iraq alone. Continuing on...

Originally posted by Kain
It's his country and he can do whatever he wants as long as he keeps it within his borders. Who is America to go and stop him?? Geez what type of attitude is that?
"I'm going to sit there and ignore everything rotten that happens in other countries." :bleh:

Lets see, if the US isn't involved, you would bash and say it doesn't care. If it is involved, you bash and say who is America to do anything.

And who are you to criticize anyone? What have you, groups in UAE and your government done to help out your fellow brother?

[sbp]

Originally posted by Kain
Please read the attachment, it might surprise you. And here is no surprise.

France Seeks Big Role in Post-War Iraq (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20030325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_france_rebuilding_iraq_2)

PARIS - Worried it could be shut out of business deals in postwar Iraq, France is drawing up plans to win French companies access to lucrative oil and reconstruction contracts, officials said Tuesday.

The government is determined that French companies will be part of rebuilding Iraq, despite President Jacques Chirac's vigorous opposition to the war, a Finance Ministry official said.

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Isn't that wonderful? :rolleyes:

These cats fail to live up to their responsibilities and go out of their way to put up roadblocks, but then want to profit from the hard work of others.

"France only wins when the UK and US do the fighting." :bleh:

[Kain]

Originally posted by sbp
Problem is Hussein doesn't confine his dirty activities to Iraq alone. Continuing on...

Geez what type of attitude is that?
"I'm going to sit there and ignore everything rotten that happens in other countries." :bleh:

Lets see, if the US isn't involved, you would bash and say it doesn't care. If it is involved, you bash and say who is America to do anything.

And who are you to criticize anyone? What have you, groups in UAE and your government done to help out your fellow brother? If you want to look at it that way, then what about PALESTINE?? What is America doing to stop Israeli brutality against Palestine?? They are given weapons to Israel and NOTHING to Palestine?? And when Palestinians try to defend themselves, their called terrorists??

[UDawg]

Originally posted by Kain
It's his country and he can do whatever he wants as long as he keeps it within his borders. Who is America to go and stop him??

You just said Saddam kill, murder rape and torture as much as he wants as long as you don't see it. I don't have any respect for your opoinions in this matter. Sad!

[UDawg]

Originally posted by Kain
If you want to look at it that way, then what about PALESTINE?? What is America doing to stop Israeli brutality against Palestine?? They are given weapons to Israel and NOTHING to Palestine?? And when Palestinians try to defend themselves, their called terrorists??

Defending them selves ehh? Suicide bombings are a form of defence?

There is no Palestine and there NEVER was. You get mad at Ireal and say nothing about Jordan. :rolleyes:

[stncttr908]

I keep seeing Israel moving into the west bank or what have you, but it is always after a suicide bombing or some other anti-israeli activity. I agree that some of their actions are not just, but it sounds like their both just pointing the finger and claiming self defense.

All I have to say about other's opinion of the US is it is a catch 22, a paradox. We're damned if we do, we're damned if we don't.

[sbp]

Originally posted by Kain
If you want to look at it that way, then what about PALESTINE?? What is America doing to stop Israeli brutality against Palestine?? They are given weapons to Israel and NOTHING to Palestine?? And when Palestinians try to defend themselves, their called terrorists?? What about Palestine-it doesn't even exist. It could have already but some folks keep messing up.

We were giving money to the Palestinians. A lot of good that did.

btw what have you been doing to resolve that situation peaceful?

[Kain]

These bombings are THEIR ONLY FORM OF DEFENCE. What else do they do?!?! Israel has all these weapons that are given from AMERICA and Palestine has NOTHING. Instead of bombing Iraq, why didn't America solve this issue first that has been a problem for the past 50 years?? Because they are money hungry and greedy. They only do things that will benefit THEM, and THEM alone.

Do you have ANY clue of how many innocent people Israel murders everyday?? Ofcourse not, because the American media is pro-Israel. Why is it always Palestinian terrorists??

[vampireuk]

Oh god Kain give it up, everyone has already acknowledged both sides are at fault.

[sbp]

Oh yeah its not like the Arabs are sending in weapons to the Palestinians. :bleh:

The bombings make Palestianian bad behavior the focus of attention and sicken people who would be neutral. Now if the Palestianians would stop blowing innocents up, more focus would be paid to the Israeli land grab and moola given.

http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/duh2.gif

Another problem is Arafat-he is still behind the scenes controlling stuff.

Yet another problem is this attitude of many Arabs that wish to see Israel destroyed. Until such attitudes are done away with by Arabs, there will be no peace.

[Kain]

Originally posted by sbp
Oh yeah its not like the Arabs are sending in weapons to the Palestinians. :bleh:

The bombings make Palestianian bad behavior the focus of attention and sicken people who would be neutral. Now if the Palestianians would stop blowing innocents up, more focus would be paid to the Israeli land grab and moola given.

http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/duh2.gif

Another problem is Arafat-he is still behind the scenes controlling stuff.

Yet another problem is this attitude of many Arabs that wish to see Israel destroyed. Until such attitudes are done away with by Arabs, there will be no peace. Actually, if there was no America, none of these "problems" would exist.

[vampireuk]

Oh god

Don't make me flibble this thread.

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by Kain
Actually, if there was no America, none of these "problems" would exist.

lol, if America didn't give Israel weapons they would have been invaded successfully and there would be no Israel. in other words i'm sure Europe would have stepped in....they helped form the country.

[Sazar]

Originally posted by Kain
Actually, if there was no America, none of these "problems" would exist.

um... no...

if there was no BRITAIN.. these problems would not exist...

it is solely through the dealings of the brits that the existence of israel as a modern nation instead of philistine came about...

america is not to blame for that...

as far as iraq is concerned... well... iraq has been recognized as a soverign nation by the states... kuwait was a part of the territory that could be said to be iraq... but iraq itself recognised the borders and the sovereignity of kuwait... hence its initial attack on kuwait was completely unjust...

suicide bombers are never going to be recognised as a way to protest for freedom... using people to blow up other people who have NOTHING to do with the peace process in most of the cases.. how can that be justified... it is wrong no matter what one says...

as for defense... well... both sides are to blame... so I am not going to get into it... but suicide bombing is not right...

concerning the war efforts and the clean up job afterwards...

the us had said it was not doing this for its own gains... and was going to liberate the iraqi peoples... how is there going to be money going to iraq if multinationals setup ? this is also completely against what the government had preached till now and the fact that some contracts are going to companies that have assosciations with certain politicians is rather shady... to me... we said we would go in... 'liberate' the people and come out... what changed?

france will moan and gripe about things basically because it has around 40 odd billion dollars already tied up in projects in iraq.. for many many years this has been the case... which is why france is so keen to get its paws on a piece of the pie... they do not have the authority to do this.. if any efforts are made... it should technically be un sanctioned...

even the uk is raising eyebrows about all these contracts being handed to the us companies.. that perhaps shows you that this is not something ethical..

[LORD-eX-Bu]

didn't some British dude draw up the borders for all those Arab nations?:confused:

[Sazar]

Originally posted by [eNv]-LORD-eX-Bu
didn't some British dude draw up the borders for all those Arab nations?:confused:

well... I just say brits... and yah ^^^

read my post lol...

[LORD-eX-Bu]

no no, not related to your post, I just remembered that I heard somewhere that some British guy drew up the borders. Just wondering, thats all;)