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ragingWS6
05-27-07, 09:30 AM
Ok...

I made a decision after all the previous driver issues that I had with my 7800GTX and Vista that I was going to hold out for the Radeon HD 2900XT in hopes that it would be a great card that would compete with the 8800GTX.

Well, we all know how that went. So, I have sold my ATi Crossfire motherboard, PSU and 2 X1950 Pros in order to get an EVGA 680i board, Thermaltake Toughpower 850W PSU and one EVGA 8800GTX Superclocked (for now). Once Crysis comes, I'm sure I'll be looking at a second card.

What I want to know is since the early drivers where I had Code 43 errors in Device Manager with my 2nd 7800GTX, I want to know how far NV has come with their SLI drivers. People having good luck with SLI under Vista? I'm curious because that is where I will end up.

Thanks in advance for the responses!

Revs
05-27-07, 11:03 AM
SLI runs OK in Vista. The performance varies with different games and programs. With 3DMark 06 for example, I get a higher score in Vista than I do XP, but gaming in Vista is still not as good as I think it should be.

In some games I get half the FPS of XP and the game-play is not as smooth, although it doesn't help that Vsync doesn't work (yet). Also many people are having slow-down problems in both XP and Vista, see the 'NVIDIA GeForce 7 and GeForce 8 Series' forums!

I keep hoping drivers and patches are gonna come out to sort all the niggles with Vista, but it's been months now and there's been little change. I still use XP a whole lot more than Vista, particularly for gaming. In fact I find very little reason to boot into Vista over XP at all at the moment.

Anyway, in answer to your question, Vista and drivers are still a 'work in progress', but usable. I also find overclocking isn't quite as stable in Vista, although the latest nTune works perfectly now.

I would really like to know how other people running dual boot are finding Vista gaming compared to XP. Everone seems to be using one or the other. Any feed-back here would be great! :)

Riptide
05-27-07, 11:25 AM
AFAIK code43 is still a problem for those with SLI and 4GB of system memory.

8800gtsfan
05-27-07, 12:39 PM
I would really like to know how other people running dual boot are finding Vista gaming compared to XP. Everone seems to be using one or the other. Any feed-back here would be great! :)

Dual booting X64 Vista and XP. I find gaming to be smoother in XP. Vista has gotten better but until NV fixes the drivers and puts 1280x1024 back into the Vista drivers I can't even game right now. Native res for NEC GX90 is 1280x1024 - been 2 - 3 sets now where you dont have an option for it within games. Nvidia is aware but it's taking forever for them to fix - and it's not just an ini entry missing. :p

Revs
05-27-07, 02:35 PM
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't aware of the 1280 x 1024 problem. That sucks! :(

Can't u just run a higher res. or does the screen cut out?

ragingWS6
05-27-07, 03:06 PM
So, it sounds like there still are some issues. I have been gaming on my laptop that has a Mobility X1800 XT 256MB card and I haven't had any issues in Vista whatsoever. Performance seems to just be a tad bit off from what they were in XP but not too bad. It makes me wonder if I should wait for R650 or G90 or be brave and buy a 1000W PSU and 2 2900XTs since I already have the DFI Lanparty CF board. My issue with the 2900XT besides power consumption and noise is its lack of performance when AA is enabled. That's because they are performing AA calculations in the shader processor...don't ask me what sense that makes.

People have been telling me to just dual-boot with Vista and XP. I guess I'll have to think about that and just use XP only to game.

Slammin
05-27-07, 03:12 PM
I run Vista64 w/4GB ram and almost never boot into XP anymore. Sure, there are a couple og games I play where XP has higher fps than Vista, but it's not a big deal because every game I play under Vista64 plays faster than they did with my old rig, which was an AMD system with Opti 170@3.0Ghz, dual 7800GTX.

Now, if I still had that old rig as my game machine, I'd stick with XP.

8800gtsfan
05-27-07, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't aware of the 1280 x 1024 problem. That sucks! :(

Can't u just run a higher res. or does the screen cut out?


My monitors max is 1280x1024. I like using this res as I can crank the eyecandy...

$n][pErMan
05-27-07, 09:19 PM
My monitors max is 1280x1024. I like using this res as I can crank the eyecandy...
Im running 1280x1024 in Vista just fine.... what drivers are you using? Works perfect on 100.65's (as does everything for me in Vista... best driver set for Vista to date IMO).

rewt
05-27-07, 09:36 PM
Missing desktop resolutions is a driver inf issue.
For example, there is a line looking like this in 158.43 (nv4_disp.inf) that gives me 1280x1024

HKR,, NV_Modes, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 640x480 1280x768 1280x800 1360x768 1680x1050 1920x1200=1;800x600 848x480 960x600 1024x768 1152x864 1280x960 1280x1024 1600x1200 1920x1440 2048x1536=3B;"

On the other hand, missing resolutions in-game seems to be more of a game problem. I have some games that do not appear to support 1280x1024 or widescreen in even Windows XP. At least not without some sort of shortcut modification or widescreen hack.

8800gtsfan
05-28-07, 12:18 AM
Missing desktop resolutions is a driver inf issue.
For example, there is a line looking like this in 158.43 (nv4_disp.inf) that gives me 1280x1024

HKR,, NV_Modes, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "{*}S 640x480 1280x768 1280x800 1360x768 1680x1050 1920x1200=1;800x600 848x480 960x600 1024x768 1152x864 1280x960 1280x1024 1600x1200 1920x1440 2048x1536=3B;"

On the other hand, missing resolutions in-game seems to be more of a game problem. I have some games that do not appear to support 1280x1024 or widescreen in even Windows XP. At least not without some sort of shortcut modification or widescreen hack.


I have a contact at Nvidia that I emailed about it - they know, they screwed something up and in some games 1280x1024 is not available. Nhl07 being one of those. Desktop res 1280 is fine here too. Its not an .inf problem this time, they actually screwed up something with the driver. It suppposed to be fixed soon. I can go back to pre 100 series and it's fine.

Revs
05-28-07, 06:22 AM
I run Vista64 w/4GB ram and almost never boot into XP anymore. Sure, there are a couple og games I play where XP has higher fps than Vista, but it's not a big deal because every game I play under Vista64 plays faster than they did with my old rig, which was an AMD system with Opti 170@3.0Ghz, dual 7800GTX.

Now, if I still had that old rig as my game machine, I'd stick with XP.

I find I get good frame rates, but it's just not as smooth in game as XP. It goes gittery and even pauses for a split second every now and then. As if theres a loading problem of something. It's the same with single or SLI with any driver. I've tried allsorts, running at different resolutions, lowering settings, etc.
I hope they enable Vsync soon, I think it might help!

8800gtsfan
05-28-07, 08:04 AM
I find I get good frame rates, but it's just not as smooth in game as XP. It goes gittery and even pauses for a split second every now and then. As if theres a loading problem of something. It's the same with single or SLI with any driver. I've tried allsorts, running at different resolutions, lowering settings, etc.
I hope they enable Vsync soon, I think it might help!


I agree with ya. I play a few games in Vista, then boot into XP, XP is still so much smoother regardless of actual fps.

Revs
05-28-07, 09:36 AM
I agree with ya. I play a few games in Vista, then boot into XP, XP is still so much smoother regardless of actual fps.

I hope nVidia will sort it with the drivers. If so i'll be able to stop using XP. Vista is just a nicer OS to use, but the experience is being ruined by the poor game performance for me :( .