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breathemetal
05-28-07, 10:07 PM
The topic really says all I need answered.

What are the pros and cons of the 64 bit version of Vista?
I'm considering upgrading from 32 to 64, but I am a serious gamer, and i heard 64 doesn't like games all to well.

Any help or advice is much appreciated.

And its not just games Im interested in, i want to know all the pros and cons of 64 bit.

supra
05-28-07, 10:41 PM
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1426/vista_64_bit_or_32_bit_version_x64_vs_x86

nekrosoft13
05-28-07, 10:44 PM
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1426/vista_64_bit_or_32_bit_version_x64_vs_x86

that from june 2006, very out of date

don't take that article to seriously

breathemetal
05-28-07, 10:52 PM
Ill just wait till some more posts show up then but thanks supra anyways

Ancient
05-28-07, 11:03 PM
What you're really asking is if 64-bit is right for you and unless you try it out yourself it's really hard to say. You can set up a dual-boot system that has both 32-bit and 64-bit. Configure a dual-boot system and test it out. It's the only way to know for sure.

supra
05-28-07, 11:17 PM
that from june 2006, very out of date

don't take that article to seriously

true but i think the info still applies.

nvnews-reader
05-28-07, 11:56 PM
The Pros
64-bit is more secure than 32 and it supports 4GB or more of memory. 32bit Vista only supports 4GB of memory. ( less on a per application basis )

The main cons

Many apps are 5-10% slower on 64bit and some older software will not run on 64 bit.

It doesn't take long to find out if drivers are available for your hardware. Depending on what you have it is either an issue or not. Any hardware you buy in the future should not be a problem.

nekrosoft13
05-29-07, 12:14 AM
true but i think the info still applies.

1. Most hardware does not currently have 64-bit drivers.

WRONG

2. In Vista x64, any driver that is not properly signed will not be able to enter the kernel and will fail to load.

WRONG, it can be disabled


3. Vista x64 currently does not backward support most x86 (32-bit) drivers.

that will never change, and there is no reason to change

4. Vista x64 does not support 16-bit software.

so?

5. Very little x64 software currently exists.

so?

supra
05-29-07, 12:52 AM
1. Most hardware does not currently have 64-bit drivers.

WRONG

2. In Vista x64, any driver that is not properly signed will not be able to enter the kernel and will fail to load.

WRONG, it can be disabled


3. Vista x64 currently does not backward support most x86 (32-bit) drivers.

that will never change, and there is no reason to change

4. Vista x64 does not support 16-bit software.

so?

5. Very little x64 software currently exists.

so?

ok. agreed. i lean towards 32bit side but like Ancient said. its probs best for him to try them both and see which is better for him.

and wtf is with the bolded replies. :rolleyes:

nekrosoft13
05-29-07, 01:05 AM
and wtf is with the bolded replies. :rolleyes:

what you can't read?

einstein_314
05-29-07, 01:33 AM
I'd say go 64bit. The only programs I've encountered that don't work in x64 are 3D CAD programs (Solidworks and Inventor) and they're working on x64 versions. If you're really worried about it, dual boot. It's really easy to set up. Drivers aren't an issue anymore. And I'd say the biggest Pro for x64 is the amount of RAM you can use. Vista x64 + 4GB RAM = heaven.

ATOJAR
05-29-07, 01:56 AM
Im using x64 ultimate, i had one problem so far and that was with BF2 & BF2142, i was getting a memory.dll error and pretty bad lagg, i got around this by installing and running the game in compatibility mode for windows xp(sp2) i also ran the latest update in compatibility mode for windows xp(sp2)!.... all you have to do is d/load the x64 drivers ... its 10x better than the xp x64 support. oh and another thing .. AVG free edition does not work with vista x64(you would have to buy it) ... im using Avast! Home Edition(free) its just as good as if not better than AVG! i also needed newer version of nero but ive got that sorted now also & had to install adobe reader in compatibility mode for windows xp(sp2) and it works fine .... i love this version of vista and would never go back to 32bit version.

(Ive uploaded a attachment of all the programs i use that work fine on my x64 ultimate)

jolle
05-29-07, 05:40 AM
4. Vista x64 does not support 16-bit software.

so?
Some older, but not that old 32bit games use 16bit installers.
Dont know how rare it is tho, shouldnt be much of a problem I would guess.

At any rate I would still recommend dualboot of XP and Vista, since quite a lot of games run worse or have some issue on Vista.
So then you might aswell run XP32 and Vista 64.

PeterJensen
05-29-07, 05:56 AM
ehh Vista 32bit can handle 4GB fine....

S.SubZero
05-29-07, 08:47 AM
I run Vista Ultimate x64 on my Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop. Every function of the laptop works. So far every game I've thrown at it works. I watch Joost using it. I listen to music and watch media using it. Vista x64 has been a fairly transparent experience.

That being said, the only time I have an issue is the 16-bit thing. I am into console emulation, and some of the old tools for some of the emulators are 16-bit so that is an inconvenience, but a minor one. I'm not about to blow off x64 because of that.

Vista x64 comes with IE7 in 32-bit and 64-bit flavors so you can use all the 32-bit browser plugins with no problem (like Flash which is only 32-bit cuz Adobe can't figure out how to do 64-bit apparently) and Media Player 11 also comes in both flavors so 32-bit codecs can be used, tho there are some extensive 64-bit codec packs now.

The WHQL driver signing thing.. I appreciate it, and I keep it enabled. This does mean no more "leaked driver of the week" installs but then again I was never crazy about those anyway.

j0j081
05-29-07, 09:08 AM
Vista 64 feels a lot snappier to me. I've tried both and it is definitely a noticeable difference, the OS itself that is not so sure about apps.

nekrosoft13
05-29-07, 09:37 AM
The WHQL driver signing thing.. I appreciate it, and I keep it enabled. This does mean no more "leaked driver of the week" installs but then again I was never crazy about those anyway.

you got that wrong

WHQL driver and signed driver is not the same thing

signed drivers don't have to be WHQL

all WHQL drivers are signed, but leaked drivers from nvidia are also signed by nvidia.

Riptide
05-29-07, 10:24 AM
ehh Vista 32bit can handle 4GB fine....Vista 32 won't see all 4GB.

PeterJensen
05-29-07, 11:44 AM
Vista 32 won't see all 4GB.

crap, now i need to "get" another version :p Is the drivers ok for the 8800's?

breathemetal
05-29-07, 11:45 AM
Well, thanks. Thats a lot of info, and a lot of it is very good.

I may just have to dual boot and find out for myself.

Eliminator
05-29-07, 01:44 PM
lmao pwned? (lee63) (lee63)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6766/untitledmz5.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledmz5.jpg)

XDanger
05-29-07, 03:24 PM
All of my games work fine in vista.

Rakeesh
05-29-07, 05:15 PM
Vista in itself is a major software architectural change, so I don't expect much compatibility in the first place. Therefore I dual boot vista x64 ultimate and xp 32 pro.

grey_1
05-29-07, 07:48 PM
lmao pwned? (lee63) (lee63)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6766/untitledmz5.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledmz5.jpg)
That HAD to hurt lol. :p

From my end, Dark Messiah is still the only game I can't play, all others are close to or above XP performance.

very happy with 64bit.

nekrosoft13
05-29-07, 09:04 PM
dark messiah works here, just sometimes crashes on exit