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sammy sung
06-12-07, 09:37 AM
Well Sammy, I don't know what to tell you, bud. It looks like you just got a dud overclocker. It's probably the mainboard; I haven't heard of anyone who couldn't go over 2.7GHz on their Conroe. You might want to feed more voltage to your CPU just to make sure that's not the problem. Maybe she just scales differently than most.

I'll try that when the thermalright ultra 120 extreme arrives,its just too hot here now to try overclocking with the 9500.Atleast it booted and ran memtest at over 2.9ghz now,it never even reached desktop over 2.8 before.

SLINROB
06-12-07, 10:24 AM
Well i tried setting it to 1:1 but i can only do that if i set it to linked and then the ram speed goes up to 1066,dunno how to set it to 1:1 another way :(


Most likely your ram instability issue is due to voltage. How much VC are you running through your ram? I never had an issue with running any FSB ratio outside of 1:1 myself but if your not feeding your mem chips enough VC or the North Bridge enough VC then that could be whats causing your mem to error out.

SLINROB
06-12-07, 10:25 AM
Well i tried setting it to 1:1 but i can only do that if i set it to linked and then the ram speed goes up to 1066,dunno how to set it to 1:1 another way :(


If your bios is like mine set it to Linked and then Synchronized. That will give you a 1:1 ratio.

SLINROB
06-12-07, 10:29 AM
Sammy give me all your voltage settings.

Northbridge.
Southbridge.
Memory.
CPU.

Etc............

Trademark
06-12-07, 10:35 AM
Post removed by me, pointless argueing

SLINROB
06-12-07, 10:39 AM
Owned 7 nvidia cards and 5 mainboards, yeh and you act like all of nvidia's **** is broken and/or DOA and now praise ATI like it's a wondercompany lmao. well stick with your flawed hog, I'm sticking with my efficient one ;) The 9000 series were a wonder, the 2000 series are flawed and when it comes to raw performance it can't keep up, that's a fact, you refuse to see that, I call you blind like you did to me.

Insecure? lawl...

I don't mind you posting good comments about the 2900, not at all, but you're praising like it's the bloody holy grail for christ sakes, if someone says something like "my 8800GTX is faster", you go wee wee instantly. If someone asks for "What graphics card should I take?" you go all "don't go nvidia, you'll have to RMA your card, buy ATI and you will have a perfect card that can't be DOA and performs better than the 8800GTS", Yeah ofcourse it does you smuck... you have one that is liquid cooled and a core that's on 925, yeh everybody here has their cards liquid cooled.... You don't need money to be an entheusiast.

I have no intention to edit my previous post at all. That's what I think of the situation and that's how I put it there. I'd rather be a complete asshole instead of lieing about my thoughts. And I'm not sure what you mean by "While you're working on that problem", because there is no problem. You are entitled to your own opinion, but when one cannot back it up, yet continnues to keep it up then you're a complete tardbrain in my... humble opinion...


Wow. Whats with you two?

sammy sung
06-12-07, 10:54 AM
Sammy give me all your voltage settings.

Northbridge.
Southbridge.
Memory.
CPU.

Etc............

Here you go Rob

Think i tried the synch option but i dont think i was able to adjust the ramspeed then and that it was locked at 1066=no boot,will check again though.


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2474/klkj0.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8141/volttv0.jpg

SLINROB
06-12-07, 10:59 AM
Here you go Rob

Think i tried the synch option but i dont think i was able to adjust the ramspeed then and that it was locked at 1066=no boot,will check again though.


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2474/klkj0.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8141/volttv0.jpg

Dude no wonder, your never going to get a stable OC unless you add some voltage to your CPU and your NB. Those are wayyyy to low to get a stable Overclock.


Do me a favor and post another shot of the Temps using asus probe so I can make some voltage suggestions for you.

SLINROB
06-12-07, 11:22 AM
Come on bud, Im gonna have to leave the house in a minute and I wanted to be able to help you.

sammy sung
06-12-07, 11:30 AM
Dude no wonder, your never going to get a stable OC unless you add some voltage to your CPU and your NB. Those are wayyyy to low to get a stable Overclock.


Do me a favor and post another shot of the Temps using asus probe so I can make some voltage suggestions for you.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5936/clipboard01tp0.jpg

Trademark
06-12-07, 11:36 AM
Is that idle or stressed? I'm guessing idle, a higher vcore couldn't hurt, but I'd watch your temps though

SLINROB
06-12-07, 11:40 AM
Is that idle or stressed? I'm guessing idle, a higher vcore couldn't hurt, but I'd watch your temps though


Yeah that Idle is a bit high, for comparison Im idling at 25c with 1.4vc at 3.3ghz with my E6600.

Tuniq tower FTW!

sammy sung
06-12-07, 11:42 AM
Is that idle or stressed? I'm guessing idle, a higher vcore couldn't hurt, but I'd watch your temps though

Yea i do but as its 30c in the shade here atm there's little i can do about it.Before the heatwave temps were 32 and 25 for CPU/NB.A new heatsink is on its way since the 9500 isnt very good,i have a 40mm 5000 rpm fan on the NB heatsink that atleast makes 4-5 c difference.

EDIT:
Sorry about the delay Rob,GF called,missed her train.She works at the First line support @ Karolinska institute,one of the larger hospital/Medical science complexes in this region .With all those years of education its amazing how little the doctors and so on knows about computers and how rude they can be:rolleyes:

Trademark
06-12-07, 11:43 AM
Lol, that thing sure does rock. I need to replace this liquid cooling stuff, it's getting a bit old and idle temps are too high aswell.

Then again I need atleast v1.5 to get it stable in orthos else it won't work for didley... too high vcore in my opinion, wish I could have done with less.

SLINROB
06-12-07, 11:45 AM
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5936/clipboard01tp0.jpg


Sammy what your gonna have to do is bump up Both the NB and the CPU voltage if you want to get things stable. Try upping the NB to 1.4vc for starters, most air cooled systems can easily handle that.

Next bump up your CPU voltage one notch at a time and run Orthos SMALL FFT'S to check for stability. When one of the cores errors out on you simply reboot and run Orthos SMALL FFT'S again to check for stability.

(make sure you watch your CPU temps while running Orthos! try not to get over 61C)

Idealy you want to get it to where you can run the program for 8+hrs Error free.

Same thing for Memtest, 8+hrs Error free.



Is it a lot of work? yes it is, but overclocking is more than just about bumping up speeds and gaming, you need to make sure your system is rock stable unless you dont mind reinstalling your operating system every other day due to corruption!

SLINROB
06-12-07, 11:47 AM
EDIT:
Sorry about the delay Rob,GF called,missed her train.She works at the First line support @ Karolinska institute,one of the larger hospital/Medical science complexes in this region .With all those years of education its amazing how little the doctors and so on knows about computers and how rude they can be:rolleyes:

LOL not problem bud! I know exactly what you mean. My wife is a pharmicist and she is so smart it makes me sick but when it comes to PC's its like-

Durrdeeedurrrrrdeeedurrrrr!

SLINROB
06-12-07, 11:50 AM
Lol, that thing sure does rock. I need to replace this liquid cooling stuff, it's getting a bit old and idle temps are too high aswell.



LOL thanks man. The Tuniq Tower is pretty badass indeed. A while back I was running 3.6ghz with 1.55vc and idle temps even then were under 30c. Load temps were 57c. :D

But im like you, I got scared about the VC and bumped my CPU back down to 3.3ghz so I could run a more reasonable VC. I really cannot afford to F anything up.

SLINROB
06-12-07, 11:52 AM
Well sammy Im outta here for a while. I will check back on you later.;)

sammy sung
06-12-07, 11:53 AM
Yea it sure aint no picnic,these things are like handling Nitroglycerin at times,shake it too hard at it blows up:headexplode:

Thanks for the help,i will wait a little,atleast until the thermalright arrives and preferably until the worst heat is over before attempting any more overclocking.Need to do another backup of my c drive with acronis first aswell.Last time i tried this it saved me several times as BSOD's ****ed up my registry,just 6 minutes of replacing the whole c drive and your good to go.Great program imo :)

sammy sung
06-12-07, 12:03 PM
LOL not problem bud! I know exactly what you mean. My wife is a pharmicist and she is so smart it makes me sick but when it comes to PC's its like-

Durrdeeedurrrrrdeeedurrrrr!

Hehehe yea she told me that some of them actually DO think they power on/off the pc by using the monitor power switch :rolleyes:

Trademark
06-12-07, 12:05 PM
Yeah, what he said is absolutely true, if it ain't stable you'll get BSODs, data corruption and all that kinda crap. I usually run Orthos overnight with a good temp monitor, if it get's past 60C it goes off automaticly

SLINROB
06-12-07, 03:24 PM
You guys will get a kick out of this. I am going back to a single 8800GTX. I feel spending 1000-$1200 on GPU's is just stupid and at this rate I am never going to get this sh1t paid for.

Plus I miss intel stability and cooler running chipsets. With the Rumors of the power that the G92 will bring around Christmas of this year I will be extremely upset when a single card for half of what I spent for two cards trumphs them in performance.

SLI is nice but I am one of those guys that likes to upgrade my GPU pretty much once a year when the new ones come out and as long as I am running SLI its just not as cost effective for me.


So.........Im gonna get out while the getting is still good and I can still fetch a nice amount for my second 8800GTX and this Asus 650I plus board.

Heck at 1680X1050 1 GTX is really all I need. So the F what if I cant run 60fps in Oblivion at all times with a single card? 45fps in the forest is plenty smooth enough for me and besides I hardly ever play Oblivion anyway.


I picked up a OEM Asus P5b delux Wifi for only $112.00 off of newegg. My last board was a P5b delux and to this day I miss that board. I can run the highest overclock that my chip can handle on that board and I dont have to worry about instability or burning up the NB or some other gay BS that this board can conjure up.

Blacklash
06-12-07, 03:52 PM
I prefer Intel chipsets myself and I am very happy with my single GTX. I've had it since release and it helps that I can run it at Ultra speeds.

When I see X-bit ,or another site I trust, review a card that beats mine at Ultra speed across the board in all benches by 15%, I'll buy that card. Until then it's an OCed GTX for me.

For performance and IQ this is my favorite card I've ever owned.

I've used SLi and Crossfire. I prefer single card. When I do get that next card I'll probably go up one in resolution to 1920x. An overclocked GTX can already handle that res in many cases.

http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_8800_Ultra/?page=8

http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_8800_Ultra/?page=5

It doesn't really get smacked down til 2560x. The one in the above review is only 612 on the core.

Trademark
06-12-07, 04:01 PM
Same here, my current reso is teh sucks anyways, so no point for dual GTX's.

buffbiff21
06-12-07, 05:47 PM
Actually, some do. My G.Skill DDR2 1000 wouldn't run on anything less @ 1000MHz. Those ****s ran hot, too.
I doubt it was your memory.

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=24