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Xion X2
06-03-07, 11:38 PM
Yes, 1680x1050, 16xAF, 4xAA, maximum in-game settings.

MUYA
06-03-07, 11:40 PM
Yes, 1680x1050, 16xAF, 4xAA, maximum in-game settings.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1275199&postcount=51

Here is mine with the 8800 GTX at stock, All in games settings maxed (graphics and others) at 1680 by 1050, 16 X AF, 4XAA!

I am thinking maybe I am cpu limited???? or I am doing something serisouly wrong because SLIROB had scores similar to yours

Xion X2
06-03-07, 11:47 PM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1275199&postcount=51

Here is mine with the 8800 GTX at stock, All in games settings maxed (graphics and others) at 1680 by 1050, 16 X AF, 4XAA!

I am thinking maybe I am cpu limited???? or I am doing something serisouly wrong because SLIROB had scores similar to yours

Something else has to be wrong there, because even Redeemed w/ his stock Opteron and 8800GTS was getting a better score:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1275695&postcount=120

What drivers are you running? Also make sure you're patched to the latest 1.8.

(Just noticed that you're only running 1GB of RAM; I wonder if that's causing a problem? Are you getting any hitches anywhere? Fear uses a lot of memory.)

MUYA
06-03-07, 11:52 PM
Running the 160.03's downlaoded from guru3d.

I am forcing AA dn AF thru NV CP though.

FEAR is patched to 1.08 via auto update..or was that supreme commander..hmm I forget. But ya it is patched to to 1.08

SLINROB
06-03-07, 11:55 PM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1275199&postcount=51

Here is mine with the 8800 GTX at stock, All in games settings maxed (graphics and others) at 1680 by 1050, 16 X AF, 4XAA!

I am thinking maybe I am cpu limited???? or I am doing something serisouly wrong because SLIROB had scores similar to yours


Actually no disrespect or anything but my scores were quit a bit higher than yours or xions and this was with my 8800gtx (SINGLE) stock and cpu at stock speed. Muya you should be scoring a lot higher than that.

Currently the 8800GTX runs fear a good bit faster than the 2900XT. I have seen plenty of benchies that back this up too. I think its probably a driver issue with the 2900XT as it runs about the same as a X1900XT right now in FEAR. Tombraider Legends is another game that the X1900XT and 2900XT seem to be about on par with when compared to each other but are both left behind by the 8800GTX in that game as well.

Single 8800GTX stock speed. 4XAA+MS Transparency. 16XHQAF.
All In game settings AT MAX.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa160/SLINROB/fearstock1card.jpg

Xion X2
06-03-07, 11:55 PM
K, I wonder if you might be maxing out that 1GB of RAM, then. Are you on XP or Vista? Vista uses a lot more, and F.E.A.R. even pushes the envelope in XP (around 870+MB last time I checked.)

buffbiff21
06-03-07, 11:58 PM
hey im assembling my system right now.

since we have the same CPU well get direct comparison between the XT and GTS.

MUYA
06-04-07, 12:10 AM
K, I wonder if you might be maxing out that 1GB of RAM, then. Are you on XP or Vista? Vista uses a lot more, and F.E.A.R. even pushes the envelope in XP (around 870+MB last time I checked.)
On Windows XP. No vista for me yet....ultil I really see a need for it..ie DX 10 games by the dozens.

1 Gb to 2 GB? hmm I might just upgrade to Conroe for the hell of it but, will be mighty pi$$ed if no improvements ;) I am thinkg of bearlake mobo+e4400 and 2 GB 800MHz RAM.

Well, any way back to benchies

fivefeet8
06-04-07, 12:51 AM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1275199&postcount=51

Here is mine with the 8800 GTX at stock, All in games settings maxed (graphics and others) at 1680 by 1050, 16 X AF, 4XAA!

I am thinking maybe I am cpu limited???? or I am doing something serisouly wrong because SLIROB had scores similar to yours

I'm using the 158.22 drivers for XP. I'm getting higher scores than you on a stock 8800gtx with my CPU at 2.4 ghertz. I was using the same settings but also had MS TSAA enabled as well.

43 min
84 average
200 max

0% below 25
0% below 40
100% above 40

I have 4xAA/16xAF enabled ingame though. Not from the CP.

Redeemed
06-04-07, 12:59 AM
MUYA- what are your exact settings in the driver control panel?

MUYA
06-04-07, 01:06 AM
MUYA- what are your exact settings in the driver control panel?
Can't post screenies (am at work)

Well, all optimizations off, High quality sliders all the way thru, single GPU implementation, no vsync, AA and AF forced. AA set at 4X and AF set at 16X. Gamma AA on, transparency AA set to MSAA, erm let me think what else, triple buffer on, threaded optimizations...auto. hmm thats hould be about it.

fivefeet8
06-04-07, 01:08 AM
Here are my FEAR screens from the ingame bench.

Stock 8800gtx, 4xAA/16xAFHQ(ingame), Gamma(CP), MS TSAA(CP)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2670/stockya8.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stockya8.jpg)

8800gtx@650/1000, 4xAA/16xAFHQ(ingame), Gamma(CP), MS TSAA(CP)
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5143/oc6501000ga0.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oc6501000ga0.jpg)

Redeemed
06-04-07, 01:27 AM
Can't post screenies (am at work)

Well, all optimizations off, High quality sliders all the way thru, single GPU implementation, no vsync, AA and AF forced. AA set at 4X and AF set at 16X. Gamma AA on, transparency AA set to MSAA, erm let me think what else, triple buffer on, threaded optimizations...auto. hmm thats hould be about it.

Bilinear or Trilinear filtering? You should be using Bilinear. Also, is the "conformant texture clamp" enabled or do you have it set to "allow"? I have mine set to "allow".

fivefeet8
06-04-07, 01:42 AM
Bilinear or Trilinear filtering? You should be using Bilinear. Also, is the "conformant texture clamp" enabled or do you have it set to "allow"? I have mine set to "allow".

You shouldn't be setting Mip Maps to bilinear or Trilinear. Set it to none. It's only used to force bi/tri filtering on games which don't do it automatically. Most modern games use Trilinear filtering by default.

fivefeet8
06-04-07, 01:44 AM
Can't post screenies (am at work)

Well, all optimizations off, High quality sliders all the way thru, single GPU implementation, no vsync, AA and AF forced. AA set at 4X and AF set at 16X. Gamma AA on, transparency AA set to MSAA, erm let me think what else, triple buffer on, threaded optimizations...auto. hmm thats hould be about it.

Tripple buffering only works with vsync on. What drivers are you using?

Redeemed
06-04-07, 01:49 AM
You shouldn't be setting Mip Maps to bilinear or Trilinear. Set it to none. It's only used to force bi/tri filtering on games which don't do it automatically. Most modern games use Trilinear filtering by default.

Why would they use Trilinear if Bilinear offers better image quality and better performance?

Or am I understanding this wrong?

MUYA
06-04-07, 02:05 AM
Why would they use Trilinear if Bilinear offers better image quality and better performance?

Or am I understanding this wrong?
Bilinearing doesn't take mipmapping into account.
Trilineaing takes mip mapping into account I think.

hmm...

fivefeet8
06-04-07, 02:07 AM
Why would they use Trilinear if Bilinear offers better image quality and better performance?

Or am I understanding this wrong?

I think I missunderstood it as well.

I presume the option is there to enable Mip Maps(trilinear filtered or bilinear filtered) in games(mostly older) that didn't use mip maps. Most modern games use mip maps already and apply a trilinear filter to them to smoothen the transitions between the various mip map bounderies. Bilinear filtering is definately faster, but it also doesn't smoothen the mip map bounderies as well as trilinear filtering and can cause texture shimmering. It's kind of a moot point though since on the G8x, Trilinear filtering is practically free.

Xion X2
06-04-07, 02:08 AM
His card is so strong that none of those settings should matter one way or the other. There's a problem elsewhere.

Check your PCI-E speeds in your bios, MUYA. Make sure you're running 100MHz on your PCI-E lane and that it's set to 16x. Your PSU could possibly be giving out on you.

MUYA
06-04-07, 02:17 AM
His card is so strong that none of those settings should matter one way or the other. There's a problem elsewhere.

Check your PCI-E speeds in your bios, MUYA. Make sure you're running 100MHz on your PCI-E lane and that it's set to 16x. Your PSU could possibly be giving out on you.

I know when I overclock I set the PCI express bus to 100mhz.

Gonna have to see if the GTX is being allocated 16 X lanes...

PSU hmm...I have a 550W Antect True power 2 PSU. Thats hould be more than sufficient...I should imagine.

SLINROB
06-04-07, 07:51 AM
PSU hmm...I have a 550W Antect True power 2 PSU.



:bleh:

MUYA
06-04-07, 11:41 AM
I figured it out why my card was getting bugger all performance...was lower or equal to my 7800 GTX SLI setup.

I set AA and AF to application controlled and set the AA and AF thru the game itself.

My new fps are;

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=26025&stc=1&d=1180968073

Blacklash
06-04-07, 01:35 PM
Found out how to vmod my card. Now to debate if I want to try it. I know she's got 690 or more in her.

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4296

nekrosoft13
06-04-07, 02:33 PM
I figured it out why my card was getting bugger all performance...was lower or equal to my 7800 GTX SLI setup.

I set AA and AF to application controlled and set the AA and AF thru the game itself.

My new fps are;

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=26025&stc=1&d=1180968073
how did you had it before?

fivefeet8
06-04-07, 03:34 PM
He used the CP AA/AF settings. FEAR seems to run a lot better using the ingame AA/AF settings.