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walterman
06-05-07, 03:51 AM
Well,

I was reading the news this morning, i found this @ anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3002

It appears that SLI will not be officially supported at this point although we have seen it running on one of the early boards with drivers that were modified but not supported by NVIDIA.

Bad news :(

hirantha
06-05-07, 05:44 AM
oh thats f*^& Sucks, i was looking forward to x38's Glory days!:thumbdwn:

DRen72
06-06-07, 09:13 AM
Well, if the X38 isn't going to support SLI (which I never thought it would anyway) then remind me again what the advantages are going for the X38 rather than the P35 which is available today?

Brent101
06-06-07, 01:37 PM
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40123

I know its from The Inquirer, so take it with a grain of salt, but things could be looking up.

lduguay
06-06-07, 01:42 PM
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40123

I know its from The Inquirer, so take it with a grain of salt, but things could be looking up.
On the sticker you can read (Gen2 SLI), wft is this?

J-Mag
06-06-07, 01:45 PM
On the sticker you can read (Gen2 SLI), wft is this?

It could be a reference to PCI-E 2.0 spec has double the bandwidth on each PEG 16x slot. Although the pic says PCI-X before Gen-2 SLI so...

lduguay
06-06-07, 01:45 PM
Well, if the X38 isn't going to support SLI (which I never thought it would anyway) then remind me again what the advantages are going for the X38 rather than the P35 which is available today?
PCI Express 2.0... DDR3 *only*... :headexplode:

lduguay
06-06-07, 01:47 PM
It could be a reference to PCI-E 2.0 spec as the X38 has double the bandwidth on each PEG 16x slot.
Yep, i think you are right.

walterman
06-06-07, 02:18 PM
Yes, i cross my fingers too.

Penryn + X38 + G92 :drooling:

DRen72
06-06-07, 02:25 PM
So the Inquirer thinks that Intel landed the rights to market SLI based on that one little "clue" printed on a card (As shown in the photo)?

I'll believe it when I see it and read about it here. When confirmed I'll eat my lovely crow dinner...and buy an X38 too. :)

For now, I'm holding off on upgrading. I've still not encountered a game that doesn't play well enough on my current rig.

MUYA
06-07-07, 04:32 AM
SLI may have been granted for workstation chipsets only.

Or, that board was using a Penryn ready NVIDIA workstation chipset?

jAkUp
06-07-07, 05:06 AM
I am not sure where anyone was getting the idea that x38 was to support SLI anyways.

radekhulan
06-07-07, 05:11 AM
I am not sure where anyone was getting the idea that x38 was to support SLI anyways.

It is not a chipset thing, but a business one. If Intel pays enough to NVIDIA, they will enable SLI on Intel chipsets, if not, they will keep it disabled, to sell more nForce chipsets. There is no single technical obstacle for SLI to run even on P965 (as Crossfire does), except greedy NVIDIA..

There was a Forceware patch some time ago which modified one YES/NO condition in drivers, and enabled SLI on Intel/VIA/ULI.

I think it is stupid from NVIDIA, many people do not consider SLI as it has to run on inferior / unstable NVIDIA chipsets, and choose P965/P35 instead. If they would allow it (in Forceware drivers), I would be thinking about spending $600 on additional 8800GTX, now I do not.

jAkUp
06-07-07, 05:18 AM
It is not a chipset thing, but a business one. If Intel pays enough to NVIDIA, they will enable SLI on Intel chipsets, if not, they will keep it disabled, to sell more nForce chipsets. There is no single technical obstacle for SLI to run even on P965 (as Crossfire does), except greedy NVIDIA..

There was a Forceware patch some time ago which modified one YES/NO condition in drivers, and enabled SLI on Intel/VIA/ULI.

I think it is stupid from NVIDIA, many people do not consider SLI as it has to run on inferior / unstable NVIDIA chipsets, and choose P965/P35 instead. If they would allow it (in Forceware drivers), I would be thinking about spending $600 on additional 8800GTX, now I do not.

Yes, I am aware of the patch, but still, none of the previous Intel chipsets supported SLI.

radekhulan
06-07-07, 06:17 AM
Yes, I am aware of the patch, but still, none of the previous Intel chipsets supported SLI.

Again, this has nothing to do with Intel, but with NVIDIA Forceware drivers. See below.

jcrox
06-07-07, 07:40 AM
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40123

Intel gets SLI License

walterman
06-07-07, 07:45 AM
It's a business game.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1469418&postcount=9

NV has completely changed a code of SLi - procedure in the driver and now there is no opportunity to modify it for SLi. I warned all about it !

Personally, i wouldn't mind to pay an extra amount for an Intel chipset with official SLI support.

Maybe Nvidia wants to sell more Nforces, but, they will be losing half part of the gfx's sales.

Mr_LoL
06-07-07, 09:51 AM
I can't say I am too surprised. Why the hell would Nvidia want their technology running on a competitors chipset? Judging by all the bad press the 680i's have received, it would kill sales for them in that area.

DRen72
06-07-07, 10:37 AM
So the X38 brings PCI Express 2.0 to us, is that right?
Thats a good reason to go that route over P35 I guess.

Mr_LoL
06-07-07, 12:27 PM
That's quite possible.

I'm going X38 no matter what. If nV doesn't want to officially support SLI on the real highend platform, they'll loose me as an SLI buyer.
Do the 680i's support Penryn out of interest?

walterman
06-07-07, 03:20 PM
Do the 680i's support Penryn out of interest?

I remember that some LGA775 mobos didn't support c2d due to the voltage regulator. So, you never know.

I can't say I am too surprised. Why the hell would Nvidia want their technology running on a competitors chipset? Judging by all the bad press the 680i's have received, it would kill sales for them in that area.

But, what if Intel pays a royalty to Nvidia for each Intel chipset with SLI support ? Maybe it could kill nf6 sales a little, but, nvidia would be still earning money.

MUYA
06-09-07, 05:12 AM
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1281430&postcount=12
http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationalevents/computex2007/JARS/Wednesday/DSCF3977_cropped.jpg

gigapower
06-09-07, 09:01 AM
After seeing how stable this 965 board I have now is, I'll definetely be sticking with Intel chipsets, meaning X38 here I come.

t3hl33td4rg0n
06-09-07, 09:11 AM
I guess we can only hope Intel will support SLI... Given nV's trends in chipset making, I'm losing faith in them to produce a good stable chipset not plagued with problems quickly.

nForce2 is still the best in terms of features/stability/performance for nV; that is, if you were to scale it to compare against the 965/680/590/4/3 chipsets.

3NZ0
06-10-07, 06:42 PM
So the X38 brings PCI Express 2.0 to us, is that right?
Thats a good reason to go that route over P35 I guess.

P35 Supports PCI-E 2

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06/06/p35_supports_pcie_2/1 :)