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Dvahlish
11-12-07, 09:56 PM
I had a guy get mad at me and calling me names. He asked me for 10g so I put 10g in the trade window but never pushed the trade button. LOL I like doing that. He got mad as usual. After a bit I said dance for me and I'll give you gold. So he danced and I didn't give him the gold. He was calling me a n00b, idiot, asshole and all sorts of names. I just laughed at him and said "why would I give you money for dancing when I can simply type /dance my self? He said he his friend was some high up officer in a huge guild and I would be sorry. LOL! He had to be a teenager. What a joke.

Ooohhhhhh!!! Fear the guild officer!!!!!
Did you ask him, why if he knew so many influencial and important people....did he have to beg for gold?

Idiots...just idiots.

jeffmd
11-13-07, 03:16 AM
Never got harrased like this, but if I did, on the next kill he trys to interfere with, open up atlusloot and link a world drop purple, and thank him for helping you with the kill. ^^

Son Goku
11-13-07, 03:29 AM
My biggest peeve...
When playing my holy pally, people asking me to come heal for them in instances and then getting abused for not being able to heal everyone in a 5 member group when they are very poorly planned and keep just charging into mobs and creating agro and a right damn mess!!

If I would ever get anyone who would critisise my healing abilities in a group quest/instance I would refuse to heal that person at all for awhile, let them die and then ask them if they would like my help or not :)

Back when I was finishing my hunter's kara attunement, I was able to get shadow labs and durnehold done in my first guild before it broke up. I was able to PuG SV and arch OK, but for the love of gawd, getting BM was a total mess. Not to mention that I spent like 3 days straight, 9 hours each day doing nothing but trying to PuG that, before I asked someone in my first guild (then in one of the top raiding guilds on realm) for help. That went well as he got a healer from his kara team, and a mage to come along and help.

But before then, and before it went so smoothly, I ran into one of those few PuGs when I could finally get a tank and healer together. It ended at the second boss, with the 2 of them practically screaming at each other. The tank was angry and yelling how the healer won't heal him, how dare you, insert all kinds of names. The healer was yelling back how he's out of mana, the person is a complete mana drain, how dare you; just as angry. The 2 would just not stop screaming back and forth. A shadow priest (not the healer), whispered me and said the tank is no where near geared well enough for this instance and this is what's going on. But these 2 were yelling and insulting, and it ended with wipe after wipe surrounding that :( That was days after trying to PuG it to finish attunement.

Son Goku
11-24-07, 09:14 PM
./yawn Speaking of what can happen in 5 mans. So I'm in SM lib on a shamy alt (lvl 34 when it began, 35 about half through), and we had a couple were tanking was out. The hunter was taking his own mob on pet, then the lock decided to be a lock tank beside. So we had like 4 or 5 mobs comming at a time, and druid tanking trying to keep it all in line. In the midst of this, a dif druid (in guild) but who also had like +45 heals at lvl 32 (not much but probably not bad at that lvl) by the end showed up taking 2nd top damage on the damage taken meter, with this lock not much behind. Even odder then that, OK at the top it made sense with the druid I mentioned taking top place on the healing list, my shamy was 2nd (mostly with the healing stream totem), but the lock fell not far below me, and over 20%. Keep in mind, locks can only bandage, or perhaps he can have heal stones then also. Eitehr way, none were given out, nor any soul stones put on anyone.

So we get toward the end boss, and when the tanking druid goes to take the 3 mobs on 1 side of the room, and advises everyone, the lock up and decides to send his void walker in the middle. Next thing you know, the entire instance is pulled on us there, and wipe. No soul stone, I couldn't reincarnate, and running back, all the respawns. The tank decided it was time to go, either because he had to, or had enough and just didn't want to continue (dunno).

What is up with some doing this? If you're a lock, your not supposed to pull instances, fear mobs into other mobs, decide when the tank is on some mobs "oh I think I can take every other one". He'd then also fear, or pull mobs off the tank, as well as off me and anyone else who was trying to melee at least to some degree. Then there were times I had to tell people to wait, on account this other druid had no mana/couldn't heal. And there was 1 time I was oom (not an easy feet as an enhancement spec, mostly due to mana pool size considerations at lower lvl, with about 2.4k mana, which I guess is OK for lvl 35). When things were done, and no other tank, the resto druid was telling me "I don't know about him, but that lock did that on my last run also, he pulled everything, on people".

Oh, and speaking of things, early in the week I had some lvl 2 Draenie warrior just come up to me in SW, and with absolutely no words at all, give me random party invite. Given what's happened since the patch where 10 day trial accounts were restricted from /w, many of these hosting these WoW gold sites have resorted to creating bots that do a party invite from some random low lvl. Then upon acceptance, start spamming "mount financing and lvling services, visit www.some_WoWgold_site.com, blah, blah, blah"."

I comment about this with a "I don't give invites to spam bots" or something of the sort. At which point, it's like (OK so turns out not a bot, but exactly how I was approached) "I'm not a bot, see I speak English". Well technically that could be scripted, but umm... I'm on a lvl 70 hunter getting random invite from a lvl 2 Draenie which got to SW. It's not like I played with the thing; and beside the last time I was on a lvl 1 and accepted an invite from a lvl 1 in a n00b zone figuring (well, I'm that lvl too, I don't need help here, but I'll be accomodating); WoW gold spam is exactly what I got. My own danged fault for not expecting it'd be more of the same.

So it's like, well if you're not a spammer, then you're probably a begger :lol2: Lets be honest, I don't care to give gold, instance runs, or I've even had some ask me to rush them through the whole game, to someone I don't know. And this, when there's no introduction, no word, no nothing said before hand; until I voice my suspiscion of a bot.

At which point, it's like "I hate you" is the response I get. And tbh, given the number of beggers who have first asked for gold, and either told me I'm a meanie, "how dare you not give me anything", or "I hate you" as a reply I can't help but to laugh. It's like "umm, you're a complete stranger, sitting on a character, in a computer generated environment. Why would I care?"

The only reply I get is "lies :o " Umm how so? Some level 2, which managed to either get a portal to SW, or walk from Azuremyst Isle, through Exodar, took boats to Menethal, and walk up to IF, to then take tram to SW, has likely not really played with anyone. How would anyone notice this? I'm half mentioning the absurdity of this, half laughing, and half finding this a tad annoying.

Course, now in retrospect, there is only one other possibility. Given how Gilthanas approached me when we last saw each other, on some alt I didn't recognize, if he.... But umm, that just wouldn't make sense. An alt that one only said "this is another one of my alts, but I don't really play him anymore" some 5 months earlier, would be requiring one to have like "perfect recall" or an infallible memory. A lvl 2 alt, just created would go so far beyond, as to require one to either be psychic, a mind reader, or just "know things" out of the blue, with no prompting, nothing presented to the 5 physical senses, at any time past or present to go on.

As much as I'd like to see him again, I'd like to think he has enough of a sense of such things; to recognize that we each have our own individual minds and sense organs, and to not assume that I'd just magically recognize a new character, that never existed before, without a word given. Which would leave things just as they had appeared. Some random lvl 2, wanting stuff from lvl 70s they don't even know; because some always want a 70 to do or give everything for/to them.

pRATTICUS
11-24-07, 10:20 PM
Good God, you spend way too much time playing WoW and analyzing everything about it.

Go get a girlfriend.

Son Goku
11-25-07, 02:21 AM
Pests are as pests are, and no I wouldn't want a live in nag, erm I mean girl friend. We all know the type. Nags who go around with a sense of entitlement, who act as if someone owes them a living. And the last thing I'd want is to bring some pest who acts like the world owes them everything; into a house, expecting to have a credit card made available to them. I think the term which would apply in all such cases would be "gold digger".

It's bad enough dealing with such, where at least one can fake AFK or whatever; face to face one coudln't do as such. And I'm at the point with everything said and done, where playing "Mr. Nice Guy" in the face of that is not something, I'd have the least bit of interest in doing. Listen up, if I don't know someone and recognize them as a good friend, I'm not going to turn over real world money, anymore then I would some non-existent game gold. I don't "owe" every such person as this, simply because some rather needy people might like hang around those who they think they might "get something from". And if someone was to turn over all their money, time whatever, to those who are simply demanding every last thing they want; no one would ever have anything for themself. If someone is a good friend, and I can recognize them as such, then I don't mind being in a more giving frame of mind. For a good friend, I don't mind helping them out. But as to the leeches of society, wherever I might find them, who act as if everyone owes them, I'm simply comming to the point of not wanting to entertain this sorta thing anymore....

It's bad enough to run into people like that in some game. In real life, and throw the naging, and the sense of "but I want to control people's lives and change them into the sort of person I think they should be" into the mix, and good gawd no thanks.

And no, I won't say it's just girl friends either. One of my sisters finally divorced one of those dead beats who for like 15 or more years sat around home doing nothing as she had to hold down 3 jobs, and barely got 5 hours sleep a day. Came home, to then have to take care of house and raise the kids, as he wouldn't even lift a finger. After she finally gave him his walking papers, he turned around to their eldest son, and started begging him for money at a time he was trying to buy a house and make a life for him; all to ready to try to live as a leech, off his own son as well. Chances are, and with that out of the way, comes the next entrant to the wellfare roles, where everyone's tax dollars get to support him now...

K007
11-25-07, 04:44 AM
Arena..BG...nuff said =)

Ive played WoW since release day, there are pests..but hey thats why i rolled on a PVP Server, and i know friends from both sides so if i get pests..i take care of them =)

I am also kinda now less WoW mode. Which is a good thing..dam game..ruined my life..almost destroyed it...so glad the 'need' to play is gone now.(nana2)

Son Goku
11-25-07, 05:34 AM
I think BGs are probably more satisfying for horde, then ali :lol2: That said, I knew someone who rolled horde on Barthilas, and have since done the same. My main on Aman'Thul is in the same battlegroup. I think going and dealing with some of the wankers would be surprisingly satisfying.

Used to be the alliance could at least hold their own in AV, though in WSG and AB, they seemed more interested in jumping in the middle and zerging honor, to bother with things like capping the flag :rofl Go to help someone, and they turn tail and run away; but of course because someone helped them the horde ignores the zerger who turns tail and gives special attention to the one who would bother helping anyone with anything; or show the slightest inclination to team work.

Then measures were taken to elliminate AFKers, and by and by the horde has learned they can win AV. What does the ali seem to do? They found ways around being AFK booted by jumping every minute or 2, and I've been in BGs where as many as 26 people don't even bother doing anything but jump every couple minutes. Oh, and today not even bothering to cap towers, I got a whole whopping 11 honor on a double AV honor weekend by the time I was done with a BG. Ridiculous; that's just not even enough honor to be worth the time spent in there.

I swear, sometimes it seems like it would be a pleasant idea to get this (now lvl 25 alt) on Barthilas lvled a little; and go in and help with some of the ownage the horde gives to the people my main ends up BGing with. Hell I'd probably recognize some of the names too; but tbh, it grows old eventually to get utterly ganked, only to find one's own "team mates" running around willy nilly, too interested in trying to solo farm honor; to ever bother working together with anyone, for any objective.

Son Goku
12-08-07, 09:26 PM
I just have to mention this, gah And it's enough for me to not only go out to eat now; but send a trouble ticket into the GMs before going... Thing is, all except those doing it, have long since grown tired.

It's another one of those things that wasn't around when Gilthanas was; has got rather out of control at times, and it's the absolute channel flooding. It's made it, so the only viable options are to either ignore chat altogether when in cities because it's impossible to follow anything anyhow, /leave trade, avoid cities altogether, or go.

It started about a month ago with people putting "murloc" into every statement, while posting one liners with murloc in every movie title known to man. Then it got added with people speaking like

[QUOTE]MURLOC! MURLOC! MURLOCK!....."

till it fills 4 or 5 lines of text; yes caps and all. The first time this happened, came back to town, they're still doing it, some 5 hours latter. It continued at about the rate of more then 1 line per sec of "murloc...." everything up until the realm got restarted for gameplay issues. It's got to have been started up at least 10 times already, and each time it goes on non-stop for about a day. Need to speak with anyone, someone is trying to speak to you, it's impossible without having to scroll through pages of this for every reply. And mind you, it isn't conversation which I've also been guilty of from time to time in trade; but downright channel flooding, to almost the worst degree imageanable at times.

Murlocs are old already, whoever do everyone a favor and give it a rest :lol2: It's the point the only way to get through, is habitually ignore all chat in cities (though one might miss something important and it would make it next to impossible for people to get someone's attention); to not get an ear full of caps lock murloc everything and what not.

Probably the only one's who will end up hearing more of this is the GMs, as then 200 other people can be telling these people to shut up already about the murlocs with a comment of "reported". I can't blame them though after a month of it for about a half a day or so at a time. I have rarely reported people for things in the past (outside gold selling spam bots) and even I've started reporting it as spam. But I don't bother to tell them, I just do when it hits this point. Anyhow, I'm getting dinner, and perhaps seeing a movie; nuff of that

Dvahlish
12-09-07, 04:09 PM
Ah look....
Stupid talk happens everywhere.
Take the Barrens and Chuck Norris talk.
I have noticed that in the UC it has now become "The rising tide" talk....
Id much rather prefer people talking silly stuff than hearing the elitest who love to put people down for asking quite valid questions in general chat, and then follow by calling everyone "noobs" (God damn, I hate that word) and then to continue by talking about how **** hot thier chatacters are.
That sort of talk reallllllly annoys me.
People talking them selves up and putting others down juust because they may be newer to the game.

My advice if you dont like general chat.
/leave channel.

Dvahlish
12-09-07, 04:15 PM
Hehehe...I just noticed my signature :)
Wasnt taking the piss at all....
I just happen to think murlocs are funny...I never get sick of seeing their flailing arms and the stoopid noide they make as they run towards you....
it just makes me laugh :)

Tyr-Sog
12-11-07, 05:54 AM
I tool around in WOW every now and then(1 or 2 nights a week for a couple hours) and as it did since the release of this game, it by far has the most disrepectful, idiotic, retarded, and immature community of all games.

Son Goku
12-11-07, 07:26 AM
I have a lvl 70 orc, and I've seen Barrens chat. What I'm describing is far, far worse then anything I ever saw in Barrens chat. For the first time, I think the alliance there actually managed to create something which can be infinitely worse then the Barrens chat was ever renowned for.

As to buying and selling, it got so bad the other week I just had to leave town and ask a guildie to make some items from engineering that was needed for a quest turn in. Just too much.... I must say spiraling down hill is about the size of it in that one; and I have no idea what the end will be. As to carrying on any conversation, with a single chat window, impossible. A perfect example of this (though in IRC one can open other chat windows for dif channels, here it's all in 1) is if one got hours of

Brokeback murloc
My, myself, and murloc
... (after 50,000 lines of this) Will you retards shut up about the murlocs already? Reported, every one of you
MURLOC! MURLOC! MURLOC! MURLOC!.... (repeated about 50 times in a single line)
[SERVER] Due to you f***in retards (they spelled it out) spamming chat about murlocs, the realms will be turned off all night. Have a nice day you [bleep] [bleep] jerks
lol at SERVER, ooh, I'm reporting you for cursing. Take that jerk, I'll have you banned, nya, nya, nya :p Murloc, murloc, murloc; us murlocs will always onz joo... (with many, many hours of this flooding and back and forth between them and annoyed individuals to commence)

Now multiply that for a half a day, so often it's impossible to hold a conversation with anyone on anything, because anything typed in any chat channel is instantly scrolled off the screen before one can even see it, making conversation impossible on anything but that.

More and more people are becomming annoyed, as it goes on for ever long then, randomly starts up again now over a month; an increasing number of people filling trouble tickets with the game masters to complain about it, and the number of people sitting around and reporting every last individual who so engages with the "report spam" feature in the UI.

As Bliz wants this on a per incident basis, it means the game masters will get literally swamped with every last one of these, times the number of people reporting them. How the game masters will respond to this, if at all (and especially as the TT queue's grow substantially larger from everyone not part of this), I have no idea. All I can say in that regard is I'm an officer in one of the guildes I'm in, and there have been times in the past of "unpleasant tasks", where I have not wanted to necessarily be there at a given moment when called in for one dispute in particular for instance. That made worse, as it was 2 friends of the then guild master, who just could not get along, with him caught in the middle between friends. That was the point I was called in, and asked to take action; as them both being friends he didn't want to be the one to have to, but for the good of the guild if they wouldn't get along, action had to be taken against one. It had apperently been going on for hours, and he just could figure no way to difuse it as things just kept getting hotter up to and after the point the guild master was called in by one.

As to this, I'm disgusted with that sort of BS. Hell I've even lost friends, such as Gilthanas simply because I couldn't recognize him, and he believes otherwise; to then get that from some more then annoying channel flooders (forget simple spam). But in any case, and speaking as one who has had to step in this sort of role before though on a smaller scale; I simply would not want the game master's job in that. Headache would be putting it mild, if they have to turn around dropping every other task and simply babysit some of these people for 9 hour stretches :eek:

Dvahlish
12-17-07, 10:09 PM
Remember the majority of people that are playing wow, are kids.
I was in org the other night, right before a server shutdown and everyone just started spamming the whole general chat.
Yes, it was annoying, and infact just juevenile, but, thats the first time I have ever seen it that bad.
Normally, I just leave the general chat...there normally isnt anything in thewre that I care too much about reading anyway.

Its a agme, so i dont let it get to me that badly.
Im there to have fun, not get stressed out over idiots.

jeffmd
12-17-07, 10:21 PM
goku, you know.. you can have as many chat windows as you want. ^^ you can have them be tabbed, or you can yank it out and stick it some where else. you can also filter any channels you dont want. its pretty much as configurable as IRC. chat rooms even have owners, mods, although no perminant owners can be set up. :(

Son Goku
12-19-07, 07:16 AM
That's the thing though... People like that really sap the fun out of it. Need to buy or sell, nope. Need to chat with people hmph. Hell that's the sort of thing that would get people kicked off almost any IRC server out there; as mods would seldom tollerate it to the degree that it totally disrupsts and destroys any possiblility of chat. Or they'd send people over to their own private channel and tell the to go do it there.

I guess what makes it all worse, is in the midst of all this (and this gets way beyond the worst I ever saw in Barrens chat while seeing horde); is all around this time, you know, I will never know if that random level 2 that first looked to be a spam bot (as I heard nothing before a random party invite), and then perhaps a begger? might or might not have been Gilthanas trying to get back together again.

If it was, then I see absolutely nothing even remotely fair in being expected to recognize some lvl 2 character, just created "as me". It would suggest he's operating under the impression we're seeing each other "face to face", and can not even remotely fathom the difference between that vs. comming up to friends on some random character. Then again, maybe something was said, though nothing caught my eye with the rather loose attention I tend to pay attention to chat in town; because I'm normally tuneing this sort of thing (until it gets as bad as the murloc bit which becomes impossible to ignore anymore) out. Perhaps in the midst of trade chat scrolling constantly, auctioneer advanced putting 5 line messages on my screen as I checked prices (full scans of AH broaken on the version I have for 2.3, though might have since been fixed), and with every auction posted, I might have missed something.

But he'll neither no, nor accept any of this. Because if that happened, he has it so firmly rooted in mind "I know otherwise, because I recognize you"; that this is somehow held as some absolute standard of truth, for which anything to the contrary (while discounting both the limits of human knowledge and human perception) that might be said in an encounter people don't even known is going on, would be considered lies. But that's the thing in all this, there is no real way to know; but as things were left it is as if the expectation is "you have to" regardless of can or cannot under the circumstances...

So now with this, and other friends having realm transfered, gone to private services (a few are still left, but most are gone), one by one; it seems at times that the a**holes are the only people who ever have any form of staying power and stick around. But they're not the sorts which make it in the least bit fun. And the same goes for that person who kept /s and /yell their constant begging for money, then getting to me wouldn't take no for an answer; just like some spoiled little brat.

So not tellign them this, but rather to just go out and make some money (in some cases even having told some of these people how to make some); it can range from "you're such a meanie, I hate you You won't give me what I want, wah, wah, wah" to this one guy who keeps going on about how he can't do anything. And when I finally tell him that's because he's a lazy bum who refuses to get off his butt and do something", he's like "you don't talk to people like that. You're repoted to the GM".

And of course, whatever happened, Blizzard never contacted me. After the person kept demanding money through /s and /yell many dozens of times, telling the person they're being a lazy bum is probably one of the lest harsh things someone could have said, and probably what others would be thinking.

Hell this goes beyond just begging for money at times, and comes down to many people pretty much demanding everyone does everything for them, lives their life, takes charge of everything (hell a topic on this could go right into the political forum, as many leeches in society are just like this). And if someone does, instead of being grateful, they can walk around with a sense of entitlement, as if it's their due. And so yes, in general I don't tend to want to associate much with these sorts of people.

And yet in the midst of all of this; if Gilthanas should have come up as one among many, inadvertantly stepping into the role of one of these people; instead of recognizing that, I guess he assumes that my not jumping at the chance has to be personal, or about him; rather then it being I just don't want to be a doormat, putting up with this sort of thing I get from one such random person, after another. And yet no person in their right mind would put up with this stuff continually. But now I'm supposed to, so he might not take it the wrong way? I'm sorry, I can't; and that really is not personal, however it might be taken when someone won't just say "oh hey, it's me.

Dvahlish
12-19-07, 03:32 PM
You seem very cut up over the whole Gilthanas scenario....
Can you not contact him and let him know you made a mistake if it bothers you so much?
Kiss and make up?

I dunno...I never have been bothered by people wanting gold....
I can imagine it would be annoying...but I guess after the first time they asked, Id just put them on ignore.
Maybe its just on your server.
*shrug*

Son Goku
12-19-07, 04:29 PM
Impossible. He believes I hate him and want nothing to do with him, and so if around, outside times where he might come by unawares, perhaps trying havign tried to get back together? on some alt while having delted or whatever his main many months back... But what he doesn't get is, "it isn't that I suddenly decided I want nothing to do with you; I just simply never recognized you, and you appeared; and if you have come to me as such continue to appear to be someone else". If he'd just let me know it's him... I got a feeling that until he pieces it together, and can understand how he can be unrecognizeable over the Internet as such; such is how things will remain, with him believing he's doing what I want, regardless of whatever might be.

I don't know. That's a sh**y way to lose a friend, especially a good friend; while one isn't even supposed to know who they are speaking to/who dropped in their path, mistaken as someone entirely different. I tend to be careful about these sorts of things (and had been with him); telling them "oh hey, it's so and so". I change a phone number or whatever, call someone up, same deal. When I called my Tai Chi teacher, and several times getting no answer (didn't call back quite so soon after thinking perhaps she's busy, and the jr. of them is a lawyer by profession, so...); she answered and was like "hello! Who is this?"

I didn't take it personally or badly at all. Hell I had moved within the past few months. And to get DSL installed in the new place, before it was disconnected from the old, it meant getting phone service in the new place before I moved (the 10 day installation window). I just said "oh hey, it's so and so. Remember how I told you I was moving. I thought I gave you my new number already?" It was like "oh", and we chatted some.

But as to these beggers. I dunno... After having lost so much af my life and the life of my family has fallen apart, I really don't feel like having to be on call to the whims of ever lil lazy individual who simply doesn't want to do anything for themself. But instead acts like they're "royalty" or whatever, and everyone in this world is their personal servant. Do some of these people even know what's it's like to get hit up with some real hard times? Which isn't anything along the lines of "but I can't buy that sword if you don't give me 100 gold. You're such a meanie, and now I'll have to have a sucky weapon, all because of you".

Mind you, I'm in the processo of gearing some guys up, my now 70 rogue still needs his flying mount, so he can get kara attuned for another guild (actually my old one that's trying to organize kara runs), and my now 63 warrior can't afford his epic land mount just yet. But oh noes, it's like some figure every 70 must be rollign in dough, and everyone's reason to exist is to revolve around and cater to their every whim. Have all this happen, lose a good friend in such messed up circumstances as he believes I just don't like him anymore, throw in some of the realities of life in a much more difficult position then many of these people might even have a grasp of, and....

Hell, against this "I don't want to ever have to do anything for myself, it's your obligation to give me my every want" many of these beggers seem to project; is my father who after the stroke struggles to try to retain some ability at self reliance, against the back drop of what he can't do. Against this, is a guy who wants to stay where he is (though he can't take care of himself), and a mother who with her own medical problems, has decided to move down to NJ to live with my sister.

And yet him, not wanting to go, doesn't quite understand what the doctor is trying to tell him. He can't take care of himself, so if he doesn't go with her, someone is going to eventually contact the state, the authorities will intervene and forcibly remove him from the home, forcing him to live in a state run nursing home, with perhaps no one to visit him anymore. And yet with all of this, I'm supposed to care about some people who refuse to lift a finger to do anything for themself; thinking it the world's obligation to simply give and do it all for them. I'm just getting to care less and less, about what many times can be these sorts of "little princess games", and simply cow toeing to it, simply because some possibly spoiled individuals have come to expect it from all those around them.

It's beyond unfortunate that I mistoke Gilthanas for one of these people... But there it is. It's those types of gold diggers, that especially with all I've had to face in life over the past 1+ years that can really get to urg me. And the same goes for people like Paris Hilton, who can go around acting as if everyone is their play thing, and get in trouble with the law; coped a bought of "rich bi*** ites" as one comedian put it, to get herself released from jail. And having to go back, cried "but mommy, it's not fair". And to think, this is the sort of roll model many look up to, in essentially going around, and treating those around them in much the same way.

Son Goku
01-15-08, 09:03 AM
Ugh, the audacity of some people. Another one of these pests, who pulls the same kind of attitude many pan handlers in real life do.

I'm running between the AH and the mailbox, when this random lvl 30 tells me to rush them through Stocks. I'll say demand quite frankly, with what was about to happen. I told them that unless they're a good friend, such as Gilthanas, I'm not doing any rushes (meh, with him not even understanding the necessity to inform me who he is, and possibly taking anything that happens as personal and bad; what can I know, or even say anymore).

Mind you, it was noon time, I hadn't eaten since the night before, and I was hungry... I'm not about to go hungry, or whatever the hell else, for people I don't even know. And some expect this? :thumbdwn:

So the person goes beyond begging, and starts pulling an attitude, while constantly telling him "I need stocks, you run me now". I'm like, "I don't even know you, and tbh no one owes you a rush. You could always find a group and play it the way most of us have had to do".

So the person is like, 1 "I don't know who your friend is":

Well that's my point. We don't know each other, or anything about each other, so why should I have to drop everything, go hungry, and what not, because you demand people give you a rush like it's owed. Beyond being rude, I hadn't eaten, and I shouldn't have to go hungry just because some obnoxious individual wants something.

2. "You're 70, and 70s don't have anything to do"

Ahem? He's got no fricken clue. Beyond end game, instances, gearing up, getting the flying and epic mounts; there's also this thing called a life. Stupid idiot acts like everyone has nothing to do, except serve him, like some kind of a slave.

3. So you can jolly well give me whatever I want

Umm, how exactly is this supposed to work? He wants, figures no one has anything to do in this world, so they must meet his demands. I'm sick of this kind of an attitude, or this sort of crap in general. It's the same nonsense one gets from beggers in real life, except that those, one has to deal with face to face. And here in Albuquerque, I have; especially when I lived on campus, and just accross the street they tended to congregate seeing nothing other then "I want, I need" whatever, tell them no and some became absolutely belligerent and hostile.

And some didn't even speak. Hell one of the apartments on campus I lived in, got routinely robbed. I had a stereo stolen from me, others who lived there previous I was to find out had game systems stolen. Only reason my TV wasn't taken also, is the 32" is so heavy, the thief probably couldn't even pick it up. A roomate had bedspreads stolen outa the laundry room, and we had a bitter argument going on for months as people's food kept disappearing, and dirty dishes were left in the kitchen sink. All the apartment mates kept accusing each other, and accusations kept flying about "whoever is using my dishes, and not cleaning up after themself; I'm sick of having to clean up your mess as you take my food".

This ended one day, when at 5 am, one of the roomates came out (I was then at a friend's house), and saw a native American person he didn't know sitting at our dinning room table, eating our food. He didn't know the person, and asking each of us, no one did. The moment this one roomate walked out and turned on the light, the stranger sitting at our table, eating the food up, turned and bolted for the door without a word.

After it became obvious that it was an intruder eating all our food, and leaving dirty dishes in the sink, the semester was near over; and when someone moved back, who was there prior to the summer semester, he told us they had a major problem with intruders, for years. All in all, they had 2 TV sets, 5 game systems, and had a list of stuff stolen.

We went to the university, and they denied anyone could break in, giving some BS line of "see this key is thicker then most? It's made for us specifically from seargent. It's impossible someone could have duplicated this key". They refused to replace the locks, or anything. One of the roomates worked at Homebase, and one of his jobs is making keys. He said, that was total bullsh**, the key is simply industrial streangth, and he could get the blank and duplicate the key himself.

Umm, yeah, I know about these sorts of people. Same, as the people who line up outside financial aid office, and demand money from students when their loan checks come in to pay for their tuition, books, dorm expenses, and what not. Meh... That's only the surface of it; and for people like this, I'm more then familiar with such pan handlers, where I've had to deal with them face to face, and the same belligerence, except there's no relogging or whatever to get away from them here in the city.

4. You're such a spoiled brat, blah, blah, blah... All you 70s have everything, and you don't want to give to me. I stopped reading in the midst of this; I'd heard enough...

:udawg: Umm, who's spoiled?

Thing is, I don't mind doing things for friends. At times (OK, I dropped my schedule much of the time for Gilthanas, but he was sort of an exception, one has to be a really good friend for me to do this); I'll help people who can really need it and are appreciative, vs. people who cop such an attitude. But why should I go out of my way, for some ungreatful individual who feels everyone owes them, while assuming "no one else ever has anything to do with their own time". Of course I'm more willing to go hungry or whatever for a friend, especially if it'd be a friend I hadn't seen in awhile, then someone I don't know. Especially if that someone acts as if it's "their due" from the entire world and everyone in it.

Same goes for that idiot on Judge Judy, who transfered money from her credit cards, onto an ex-friend's joint card, while giving him all her debts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQxMYO9IB9o

Fricken ridiculous....