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Ara23
07-13-07, 09:56 AM
I'm new to this forum, and I need a little advice. I'm earning some money to buy a new rig, cause this one is 2-3 years old and can only play DX7 with good FPS. There are two motherboards that I'm looking at...

Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R (has DDR3 RAM support, and new 45nm CPU support, but no SLi)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128048

and EVGA 680i SLI (45nm CPU support, no DDR3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188019

I'm on a budget, I don't want to spend more than 170 dollars on a CPU because I need the money for the RAM, Graphics card, and hard drive and case (the one is have now, is beat up and probably wont fit an 8800)

Should I go for the 680i? I don't know if I will ever go sli with an 8800 or a future graphics card. I run 1280x1024 resolution, just in case you want to know. Should I stick with my original decision with the P35? I don't know if I would use DDR3 until the prices drop to normal DDR2 prices, and that may be a while.

All help is appreciated, thanks!

randsom
07-13-07, 10:12 AM
well its a 50/50 choice at this point IMHO man

The 680I is a mature chipset with support for the 1066,and 1333 bus parts, and a ton of really good boards .No ddr 3 support, and its still up the air about the .45nm parts,

the P35 chipset, not so mature chipset, with early bios's and drivers, but ddr2 and ddr3 support and definite support for the .45nm parts and backwards compatible with current .65mn parts, so upgrade abilty isnt a issue.

Depends on what you want, and need.

I myself tend to wait about 4 to 6 months between platforrn changes, so the chipset matures and the bios's get staightened out and better selection of mb boards

I myself am waiting for the x38 chipset.

50/50 your choice

Ara23
07-13-07, 10:18 AM
well its a 50/50 choice at this point IMHO man

The 680I is a mature chipset with support for the 1066,and 1333 bus parts, and a ton of really good boards .No ddr 3 support, and its still up the air about the .45nm parts,

the P35 chipset, not so mature chipset, with early bios's and drivers, but ddr2 and ddr3 support and definite support for the .45nm parts and backwards compatible with current .65mn parts, so upgrade abilty isnt a issue.

Depends on what you want, and need.

I myself tend to wait about 4 to 6 months between platforrn changes, so the chipset matures and the bios's get staightened out and better selection of mb boards

I myself am waiting for the x38 chipset.

50/50 your choice

Ya, I heard of the X38 chipset, I'll wait until September for my new parts, but that is it. Problem with X38 chipset, is it will probably cost 200-300 bucks, right? I'm sure they will make a X38 that won't cost that much though, like some of the P35s, I hope.

SOAD
07-13-07, 10:22 AM
Is the 680i 45nm compatible :captnkill:

tell me so :D



Though I rather doubt it :(

hirantha
07-13-07, 10:26 AM
Ya, I heard of the X38 chipset, I'll wait until September for my new parts, but that is it. Problem with X38 chipset, is it will probably cost 200-300 bucks, right? I'm sure they will make a X38 that won't cost that much though, like some of the P35s, I hope.

yep thats the best smart upgrade to do, wait till x38 then make your move accordingly.

randsom
07-13-07, 10:28 AM
Is the 680i 45nm compatible

tell me so



Though I rather doubt it


damn forgot to quote


wont know for awhile i guess till nvidia says so,

they have been quiet about it so far, and since they write all of the bios's the answer will have to come from them.Nothing so far except a post on the evga website , which i take with a grain of salt.

lets get back on target and try to answer the question and lend some support the for O.P

Ara23
07-13-07, 10:48 AM
P35 is a superb chipset, way better than the 680i.
Ya, the only thing that bugs me, is that some of the P35 mobo's are crossfire, and I don't do ATi, sad they dont have SLi. Would you get a difference in FPS because of the 2 different chipsets? P35 is a trusted chipset, from what I hear from everyone, the 680i is ok too, but I want SLI and a good chipset like the P35 on the same board.

Oh, does the X38 ONLY support DDR3? If it does, then I'm out of luck, lol.

ynnek
07-13-07, 10:53 AM
what always helps me in these tough choices, is to REALISTICALLY plot out your current and future budget and upgrade path, based on info and future info and best speculation of whats down the road. Do a couple of versions of them.

You gotta sit down and think, are you really going to do SLI? Personally, I believe SLI is NOT worth it on value and is a dubious upgrade strategy. Only place SLI makes sense, IMO, is when you are aiming to build the fastest system possible with the two fastest vid cards available, without a regard to cost.

jAkUp
07-13-07, 11:46 AM
The 680i supports Penryn. And yes that is from NVIDIA.

Ara23
07-13-07, 11:51 AM
The 680i supports Penryn. And yes that is from NVIDIA.
Yep, says so on their site, well not penryn in general, but it does say supports future Intel CPUs. Thanks swalter for the info. Man am I glad X38 comes with DDR2

randsom
07-13-07, 11:56 AM
The 680i supports Penryn. And yes that is from NVIDIA.

Thanx jakup.I have heard that, it was still up in the air.I am glad i am not rushed now

Gives me some time to find the right x38 board:)

Libertysyclone
07-13-07, 01:21 PM
Well I think that the 680i is a decent board, if you are careful with your Memory choices (EVGA has a RAM compatability list) and not looking for the maximum OC. It will have more "future proofing" ability than the Intel chips and Nvidia will keep upgrading the BIOS with new features(it still has some up its sleave) until they have the 680i replacement. It does support 45nm.

I just replaced my 680i with a P35 (ASUS PK5 Deluxe WIFI) because I currently only have a single GPU and want more than 3.2Ghz out of my E6600 and a Q6600 (when I get it,woot July22nd!).

I will however be building a new system late Q4/early Q1 and I will once again have a NVIDIA MoBo. I plan to have more than ON3 GPU(s).

Amuro
07-13-07, 09:55 PM
I'm going for x38 + yorkfield for my next upgrade.

Burner_Tbird2
07-13-07, 10:42 PM
I have had my 680i since release and at first I was getting data corruption due to sata errors. However after I flashed to P23 bios and higher I have had no issues. I think P27 bios gave a little performance boost if I'm not mistaken. For me it became a very solid board thru bios. I have no experience with P35 so far but am again interested in the topic for a friend who is building PC this month.

Amuro
07-14-07, 04:52 AM
If there'll be official SLI support for X38 I'll do the same. Otherwise I keep the P35.
Wow, just noticed that in your sig. You dumped SLI and went for the P35. How do you like it so far?

mulberrycrush
07-14-07, 06:43 AM
When is the X38 out? I thought it was end of the month?

mulberrycrush
07-14-07, 07:04 AM
:zombie: cool, I am going P35 , cheers

kam03
07-14-07, 07:09 PM
I'm looking to purchase a new motherboard.

Is it worth waiting for the x38 chipset or shell i just go for the p35 chipset?

Are there any performance differences or more support for newer cpu's between the two chipset?

I will be using single graphics card solution.

Thanks

Amuro
07-14-07, 10:02 PM
I'm looking to purchase a new motherboard.

Is it worth waiting for the x38 chipset or shell i just go for the p35 chipset?

Are there any performance differences or more support for newer cpu's between the two chipset?

I will be using single graphics card solution.

Thanks
X38 will have dual full speed PCIe 2.0 x16 slots, and some enhancement for the memory controller.