Possibly ati holding cat 3.3 back on purpose?

[ChrisRay]

I was thinken the other day, Releasing Cat 3.3 at such a crucial time would be a bad idea, Because it would definately make the benches of the 9800/9600 series look not as impressive when they come out if they did something like that.


Your thoughts on this?

If the 9600 Pro comes out using the new optimised drivers and the 9500 Pro is still using cat 3.2, It's kinda maken me wonder.

[jbirney]

In truth they could. But I sure hope not. As you know all HL bases games/mods are FUBAR in OpenGL mode if you hit the ESC key. This is a major oversite and should have been corrected in Cat3.3. Since HL and/or her Mods are still extremly popular than holding back the Cats3.3 would be a very stupid move IMHO.

[ChrisRay]

Originally posted by jbirney
In truth they could. But I sure hope not. As you know all HL bases games/mods are FUBAR in OpenGL mode if you hit the ESC key. This is a major oversite and should have been corrected in Cat3.3. Since HL and/or her Mods are still extremly popular than holding back the Cats3.3 would be a very stupid move IMHO.


Ya I have had issues with OpenGL in other things as well. I am really hoping that these issues get fixed with cat 3.3..

[GlowStick]

i doubt it, probly just tweaking and waiting for 9800p to hit Major stores.

[Grrrpoop]

Originally posted by jbirney
Since HL and/or her Mods are still extremly popular than holding back the Cats3.3 would be a very stupid move IMHO.
That's true, but what if they're holding back the release because they didn't fix the problem yet?

Better to delay drivers and release with significant fixes than disappoint ppl by saying "maybe in the next release".

Like u said, HL and esp. CS are v. popular = lots of p!ssed off ATI card users if the Cat 3.3's fail to deliver a fix.

IIRC the 3.3's are targetted at 9700P / 9500P users, where the 3.2's were targetted at 9800P users..? :confused:

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by Grrrpoop
IIRC the 3.3's are targetted at 9700P / 9500P users, where the 3.2's were targetted at 9800P users..? :confused:

what r9800 users....the cards just started shipping to stores yesterday.

[Joe DeFuria]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
what r9800 users....the cards just started shipping to stores yesterday.

Right...with Cat 3.2 drivers.

Cat 3.3 contains some of the driver optimisations that went into to the 3.2 drivers specifically for the 9800. But those enhancements were not fully tested on the 9700. Those enhancements (after full testing) will be applied to the 9700 with the 3.3 drivers.

[ChrisRay]

Originally posted by Joe DeFuria
Right...with Cat 3.2 drivers.

Cat 3.3 contains some of the driver optimisations that went into to the 3.2 drivers specifically for the 9800. But those enhancements were not fully tested on the 9700. Those enhancements (after full testing) will be applied to the 9700 with the 3.3 drivers.

I'm assuming these enhancements will come for the Radeon 9500 Pro too yes?

[Joe DeFuria]

Originally posted by ChrisRay
I'm assuming these enhancements will come for the Radeon 9500 Pro too yes?

Dunno. Certainly, since it's the same chip as the 9700, it should be there, but any performance improvements might rely on the extra bandwidth available on the 9700.

[gravioli]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
what r9800 users....the cards just started shipping to stores yesterday.

My guess is that there are just as many 9800 users as there are GFX Ultra users right now. ;)

[Sazar]

Originally posted by gravioli
My guess is that there are just as many 9800 users as there are GFX Ultra users right now. ;)

that comment is a little off.. specially seeing the 4-5 users on this board alone...

I am sure if you look @ a larger board... you might see more users...

but yes.. visiontek 9800pro orders have shipped and I am sure some people have these cards already.

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by Sazar
that comment is a little off.. specially seeing the 4-5 users on this board alone...

I am sure if you look @ a larger board... you might see more users...

but yes.. visiontek 9800pro orders have shipped and I am sure some people have these cards already.

I just orderd it Friday, according to OutPost.com it should arrive tomorow. My 9800 Pro that is. Dose anyone know if the Xtacy is the same clock and ram as the ati one?

[ChrisRay]

The Radeon 9800 Is definately available in larger quantities than the Geforce FX, Theres no denying that,

Personally I am begining to Doubt we'll ever see any of the Nv30 series hit store shelves,

Tho The Nv31/Nv34 will

[Lezmaka]

Originally posted by ChrisRay
Personally I am begining to Doubt we'll ever see any of the Nv30 series hit store shelves


We had a BFG Ultra in our store the other day. Not sure if someone has bought it or not though, haven't checked.

[saturnotaku]

Originally posted by Sazar
but yes.. visiontek 9800pro orders have shipped and I am sure some people have these cards already.

I was at the TigerDirect store yesterday and I saw a stack of about 6 of these cards ready to be sold. It sure was tempting (especially since you get a free t-shirt with those cards :D) but I realized that the 9800 wouldn't be much of an improvement over my presently modded 9500. ;)

[GlowStick]

Originally posted by saturnotaku
I was at the TigerDirect store yesterday and I saw a stack of about 6 of these cards ready to be sold. It sure was tempting (especially since you get a free t-shirt with those cards :D) but I realized that the 9800 wouldn't be much of an improvement over my presently modded 9500. ;)

Yeah, it wont give a 399$ worth improvement!

As GlowStick is currently wareing his VisionTek T-Shirt muahhaaha

[Dazz]

Yeah theres someone on this fourm with a Visiontek 9800PRO which he got about a week or so ago, havn't really seen him since he got it.