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Libertysyclone
07-30-07, 11:54 AM
I am planning on building a new machine around November time. The plan is to have a 0db machine. I will be running water cooling and have been thinking about putting my radiators and pumps in my fridge next to my desk. For both better cooling and better sound dampening.
My biggest concern is condensation. Is there anyway to stop this? I know that having the cold lines insulated will work but what about on the water blocks?
I have read an article on techware labs about trying to create a vacume box around the water block?
my climate is really dry, I dont know if that helps but our humidity avgs under 40%
Hrm I haven't done it myself but google water chiller overclocking, or something.
Go on forums like xtremesystems.org/forums and look at how people set up their chilled WC units.
I actually helped someone do this before. Started by buying a small fridge for $99 and drilled 2 holes in the side of it for the tubing and then caulked around the holes to seal it. we used a pump we bought at a pet store and had it submerged in water, worked great, except moving your computer even 12 inches is a major chore. Wish I had pictures of that thing :( but it was an awfully long time ago.
Zelda_fan
07-31-07, 02:25 AM
you won't be able to achieve a 0dB system as a refrigerator puts out quite a bit of noise.
you won't be able to achieve a 0dB system as a refrigerator puts out quite a bit of noise.
I don't know about 0dB, but I definitely would not classify it as "quite a bit of noise" At least not the mini-fridge we used.
Libertysyclone
07-31-07, 12:46 PM
Correct, I have the fridge now next to my desk and I cannot usually hear it, my HP workstation is louder.
Jcrox--Did you do any insulation on the GPU/CPU/tubing?
Can't wait to see how this turns out!
lduguay
07-31-07, 05:25 PM
Correct, I have the fridge now next to my desk and I cannot usually hear it, my HP workstation is louder.
Jcrox--Did you do any insulation on the GPU/CPU/tubing?
You would have to put your HDs and PSU in the fridge too to achieve 0db.:p
Capt. Picard
07-31-07, 05:54 PM
I think we're a long time overdue from a system that is 0db.
Just like we're a long time overdue from a commonly available personal vehicle that is not solely dependent on fossil fuel. The fact that fuel fuels is not the cause of our current global climate problems is not the issue here.
I think it's high time that they cut the BS and develop carbon nanotube technology for what it's really meant for which is bonding and conducting at microscale. If they can't do it on large scale operations then they should damn well do it on small scale issues. I read that Carbon nanotube technology will work beautifully as processing semiconductors in computers.
Correct, I have the fridge now next to my desk and I cannot usually hear it, my HP workstation is louder.
Jcrox--Did you do any insulation on the GPU/CPU/tubing?
The case wasn't in the fridge, just the water pump (which was in a glass container and submerged in water) and the radiator.... but again, this was when the athlon 1.2Ghz CPU's we're brand new... a long time ago.
Libertysyclone
07-31-07, 10:35 PM
I think that I currently have 2 options
1)build the system in a fridge. I would have to have a seperate compartment for the HDDs that would be ambient temp (HDDs have issues with cold)
2) build an all out water chilled system (goto XtremeSystems.org to see them)
either way I wont be a realistic 0db system but how many of you are pissed because of all the noise your fridges make? I honestly cant remember the last time that I heard my fridge. And my little 2' cube fridge that I have next to my desk at work makes VERY little noise, the vents are louder than it is.
I am thinking a mini fridge that stands about 3' tall will be perfect. I will have to put wheels on it for LAN parties though :) This may go down as either the ultimate LAN case (store your drinks in your computer?) or the Ugliest Case Ever.
Get a small fridge that had a freezer, insulate the freezer and disconnect it then put your condensation sensitive parts in there maybe?, would be one hell of a mod :D
CaptNKILL
08-01-07, 12:08 AM
Just get a big ass plastic cooler and fill it with ice and have your tubes run through the water in the bottom of it. Change the ice out as necessary.
:D
Just get a big ass plastic cooler and fill it with ice and have your tubes run through the water in the bottom of it. Change the ice out as necessary.
:D
Think I might try that.
Libertysyclone
08-01-07, 01:02 AM
The only issue that I can forsee is condensation. however if my fridge is big enough I can put a small dehumidifier in it....
Damn this project keeps getting more and more expensive
Woodelf
08-01-07, 08:36 AM
With my vapochill, I had to pack the socket with zinc grease and use a special heater around the core.
Then the entire cooling line was insulated.
Libertysyclone
08-01-07, 11:45 AM
Thats what I figured, The chilled water concept is great in an every day app I dont think that it will benifit me.
barita_lola
08-10-07, 01:20 AM
Well I question on refrigerated cooled water that Can bacteria and/or germs travel up the flowing water coming out of a faucet? If you used a dirty cup or bottle at the water cooler at work, can the germs travel up the "stream" of water coming out of the cooler and contaminate the rest of the water?
Just get a big ass plastic cooler and fill it with ice and have your tubes run through the water in the bottom of it. Change the ice out as necessary.
:D
Not a bad idea for short term, but if you really want to make that efficient as possible you have to add salt in it. Salt lowers the freezing temperature making the ice water colder.
use antifreezer it does not harm the system like salt do
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